The Unfat Challenge.

[Bodhi]

I got a divorce last June and dropped 25lbs...so I gues my recipe is get single--loose the extra baggage and pounds at the same time.

But, Really, though, since the divorce I have cut down on portions, started eating healthier, and started back at exercising regularly (jogging four miles three time a week)...

Still, the divorce seemed to give me motivation (not having the op to get laid when I wanted gives a man real motivation!)--for people like me, you get accustomed to your security with a signigicant other and get less motivated to stay in shape sometimes (they are gonna love you no matter what you look like, right?) and the lbs just keep creeping up on you before you realize it...now I have dropped 4 pant sizes (36 down to 32) and have been able to endure longer and faster in the bc as a result...

Good luck to all involved in this...and I hope all our hot maggettes get even hotter!


(sorry, no real opinion on the dudes participating--good luck, though)

[steve]

I keep trying to access the page and i am not able to. it says i need a password which i don't. any help here?

what are you talking about, the spreadsheet?

You create your own password, using your email address as a login.

-steve

[mrryde]

The last time I rode my MTB was 1/26

did 2 laps in 57:00 at the local trail - http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/1958604

Just got back from ride today

2 laps in 44:00 - http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/2291019

its a happy day

[yentna]

I got a divorce last June and dropped 25lbs...so I gues my recipe is get single--loose the extra baggage and pounds at the same time.

Heh, same thing. It's motivational actually, wanting to prove3 to yourself that you're a better person.

A few years back, had a relationship end pretty badly, and I lost 18 pounds in 10 days. Not the healthiest way to do it! But, it got me motivated and I decided I wanted to be healthier in the long run. Changed my, well, I guess added is the better word, an exercise routine and improved my eating habits, and those pounds (mostly) stayed off.

Now, just trying to fine tune things in my more rigorous athletic training.

[shera]

Steve, I was worried about your calorie count too. I know what it feels like to have my metabolism drop and walk around like a zombie.

I've been stuck for a bit. But I'm not in a big hurry and I don't want to lose any muscle. And I've only got six pounds to lose at this point. My biggest concern is a healthy diet. I also eat about 100 grams a day of protein. Too much booze though.

[steve]

yeah, i haven't seen any zombie-like affects so far.. that's the kind of thing that would have me increase calories a little. after 10 days, i actually feel pretty normal, and i'm not so hungry all the time, like i was before i even started dieting.

(posted from mile 171 on i-81 in virginia - we're on our way to colorado!)

[SkiDork]

i was in costco today- they have carnegie deli pastrami sandwiches in their pizza area now..

i was seriously jonesin' to try one.
meh, i ate imitation crab meat instead.

Steve, how's that imitation crabmeat calorie-wise? I always thought it would be too high...

[mrryde]

Steve, how's that imitation crabmeat calorie-wise? I always thought it would be too high...

it has imitation calories, so they do count

[steve]

Steve, how's that imitation crabmeat calorie-wise? I always thought it would be too high...

450-500 calories per pound. not bad.

we just passed the "davey crocket birthplace state park" !
we're an hour or so outside of knoxville.
Tennessee, I-81

[snow_slider]

Holding steady at 196 for now. Both of my kids have been sick, so I've gotten little sleep in the past week and no exercise last weekend through Tuesday.
Yesterday I ran 5 miles and today I'm planning to ride 35 or so.

[BeanDip4All]

I also eat about 100 grams a day of protein.

Shera,

Do you mind telling me how you get that all in? I am supposed to be taking about 120ish grams/day with Ironman training and am really having a freaking hell of a time... it was hard enough getting my veggies/fruits up there now all the protein is killing me.

Here is what a normal day would be for me:
breakfast: OJ, tea, a banana
(workout)
snack: protein shake- 20g or oatmeal with protein in it (10 g)
lunch: tuna sandwich 20 g with fruit or salad
snack: fruit with PB or veggies
dinner: chicken, veggies etc- 20 g
(workout)
snack: protein shake- 20 g

still only coming in at 80... I don't know how bodybuilder people and more serious athletes than I do it... I guess I could double my protein shakes or have two cans of tuna in a sandwich etc but that seems excessive.

C

[yentna]

BD4A

Not sure how SheRa does it, but for my 100+ grams, the biggest thing is protein at EVERY meal, especially breakfast.

- Minimum 10-20g for breakfast (eggs, breakfast shake, milk, yogurt, etc.)
- I put beans or tofu into every lunch (my lunches are done in bulk, cooked once a week).
- Edamame for a snack once a day.
- Fish, chicken, or beef for dinner. (Sometimes pasta, but then I add a protein shake.)

Up the chicken intake maybe? Chicken doesn't have a TON of calories, or cholesterol, so you can eat more and get more protein. Same with a lot of fish. Red meat is a bit more difficult, but still not bad.

It used to be really hard for me to get the 100g in too, but that was when my calories were much more restricted and thus hard to fit in enough food to get the grams. It's easier for me now that I'm eating over 2000 calories a day. I don't know how many calories you're taking in, so that may limit your options more to protein shakes. Good luck!

[mrryde]

BD4A

Not sure how SheRa does it, but for my 100+ grams, the biggest thing is protein at EVERY meal, especially breakfast.

- Minimum 10-20g for breakfast (eggs, breakfast shake, milk, yogurt, etc.)
- I put beans or tofu into every lunch (my lunches are done in bulk, cooked once a week).
- Edamame for a snack once a day.
- Fish, chicken, or beef for dinner. (Sometimes pasta, but then I add a protein shake.)

Up the chicken intake maybe? Chicken doesn't have a TON of calories, or cholesterol, so you can eat more and get more protein. Same with a lot of fish. Red meat is a bit more difficult, but still not bad.

It used to be really hard for me to get the 100g in too, but that was when my calories were much more restricted and thus hard to fit in enough food to get the grams. It's easier for me now that I'm eating over 2000 calories a day. I don't know how many calories you're taking in, so that may limit your options more to protein shakes. Good luck!

Optimum Nutrtion Whey Protein - this will make 100g a day easy

[Yeti]

Chicken. 135 g protein per pound. You can eat a 1 lb burger, and I bet you can eat a 1 lb chicken breast sandwich too. I had a buddy in school who was an amateur bodybuilder. He weighed about 245, but needed about 200 g protein per day. One of the only guys I've ever seen succeed at the milk challenge (1 gallon in 10 minutes) -- and he did that every single day.

[yentna]

Whatever option to get protein, break it up over the day since your body can only absorb so much at one time and the rest is lost. If you're working out super hard, i.e. body building, you may be able to use 100g at once, but for most of us we can't.

And for the ladies, maybe it's not true but I read that unused protein is like alcohol - it goes straight to fat. I'll do some googling.

Edit:
http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Protein.html Interesting quotes:

Obese individuals eating a slightly higher protein diet (25% of calories from protein), lost significantly more weight and body fat than those eating a slightly lower protein diet (12% of calories from protein). (Skov, et. al., 1999)

Overweight women consuming a diet with a carbohydrate/protein ratio of 1.4 (125 g protein/day) lost more weight and body fat than those eating a ratio of 3.5 (68 g protein/day).

(Not that any of us are obese, but an interesting point.)

and

It is clear that athletes need to consume more protein than the current USRDA for 0.8 g/kg/day in order to maintain nitrogen balance. Conversely, since the requirements of carbohydrates, and overall calories also increase with physical activity, the recommended proportion of calories from protein does not change significantly. With a calorie sufficient diet, protein requirement values needed to maintain positive nitrogen balance of both weight trained and endurance trained athletes constitutes intakes of 12% to 20% of total daily calories.

I'm a fan of a lot of protein - that's actually why I ended my vegetarian streak. Too hard for me to get all the protein when training.

A semi-decent calculator:
http://www.healthcalculators.org/cal...rs/protein.asp

(Obviously it's a slow day if I'm spending time on this. Hope you all don't mind.)

[willywhit]

I got a divorce last June and dropped 25lbs...so I gues my recipe is get single--loose the extra baggage and pounds at the same time.

same program, here. The shackles are finally coming off.
Maybe do Atkins and live on Bacon and Vodka cocktails.
really enjoyed your performance in Point Break.....
Bohdi: Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true.

[shera]

Shera,

Do you mind telling me how you get that all in? I am supposed to be taking about 120ish grams/day with Ironman training and am really having a freaking hell of a time... it was hard enough getting my veggies/fruits up there now all the protein is killing me.

Here is what a normal day would be for me:
breakfast: OJ, tea, a banana
(workout)
snack: protein shake- 20g or oatmeal with protein in it (10 g)
lunch: tuna sandwich 20 g with fruit or salad
snack: fruit with PB or veggies
dinner: chicken, veggies etc- 20 g
(workout)
snack: protein shake- 20 g

still only coming in at 80... I don't know how bodybuilder people and more serious athletes than I do it... I guess I could double my protein shakes or have two cans of tuna in a sandwich etc but that seems excessive.

C

Let me repost the fitday links:

fez: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ner=marc%2Efez
Stu Gotz: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...+St%2E+Hubbins
shoesmith: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ner=shmoesmith
mrryde: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...l?Owner=mrryde
SheRa: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...oThinOrTooRich

I've been recording my food for weeks now. It has really kept me on the ball. One problem for me is that even though I bring my own lunch every day, they deliver pizzas and have chips there at the ski school. It's hard to avoid putting some salty greasy junk in my mouth. But it's all recorded.

About the protein, I eat eggs every day - free range ones fed on flax for Omega 3. I also eat nuts every day. And of course meat in my salad at lunch and at dinner. When I go to bed I have a cup of hot milk with camomile and honey.

I'm going completely organic. Even finally gave up artifial sweeteners. Like I said, I'm trying to look at a larger picture of health and nutrition than just the calorie count.

[shera]

Once more thing I wanted to mention - I've been looking into diet a lot these last few weeks, mainly staring out with that whole caveman, paleo idea that we were wired to eat certain foods and getting so far away from that is causing a lot of the health problems rampant today in america. It's pretty simple really - eat a lot of fresh fruits, vegetables, meats, fish, nuts and seeds.

When you can get past the fixation on processed grains, sugars, and vegetable oils that the american diet is now based on, you end up with delicious and nutritious eating.

I do eat dairy products and that will never change. Apologies to my pre-moo ancestors.

One more change I think I will make is to grass fed beef. The more I read about grain fed cattle, the more wrong I see it is. The whole composistion of the flesh is altered from a good and healthy food to the same artery clogging crap that is giving amerioca so many problems today. Grass fed beef is just as good for you as fish.

Those of you that want to start looking into it, here's a link: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/health.html

[seldon]

Perhaps its been covered before but I didn't want to wade through all 7 pages... What are the long-term effects of dieting on your metabolism? I started (in Sept '06) at 175 with a raging metabolism and eating tons - putting on weight had always been a challenge, and ~15% body fat, and have dropped since then to 154 with 6 or 8% body fat for crew, and now I'm eating very sparsely and was just wondering if I might be permanently fucking my old (and lovely) superfast metabolism even after I start eating normally? again.

[rideit]

It's pretty simple really - eat a lot of fresh fruits, vegetables, meats, fish, nuts and seeds.

Just to play devil's advocate, many northern (Inuit, and other northern cultures) had extremely few (often none) of these foods in their staple groups...and yet procreated and handed down 'normal' genes, weight wise. Discrepancy?

I dunno..just 'food' for thought.

[steve]

dieting on a roadtrip.. is rough.
now that we've arrived in CO, it'll be easier to eat right.

-steve

[sherpahigh]

I got a new scale yesterday, it measures body fat and is more accurate. Only problem is that it reads 4lbs. heavier. Should I adjust my original weigh in on this or just suck it up?

Down 6.5 lbs. since this started, I guess only 2.5 if I don't adjust it.

I'm going on a 4 day cat skiing trip to Chatter Creek on Friday, looking at the pictures of food they serve there makes me think I might struggle to lose while there, but I don't much care, they've been getting pounded with snow so hopefully I'll have some pow to help burn some of the extra calories off.

[erica_z]

I've been picking up the pace on my fitness (or trying to)

The bike is tuned & ready for commuting (unless we get any more snow... )

snowshoeing to the Vista after work couple days a week.

Went climbing with some pals yesterday. Being unfat would definitely help me haul my carcass up those routes faster. Behold: my incentive.

Been adding distance for that 10K I have in May.

If all goes well, I should be back in fighting shape in a few weeks! If I can just stop drinking so much on weekends now.....

[altachic]

Shera-a guy I used to work very closely with uses said diet as the way he eats now. He has been eating like this for over a year. He lost 30 lbs by doing so. He didn't start exercising a ton, just totally changed the way he eats.

He only eats fruits, veggies, nuts, fish and....well, that's about it. He eats absolutely no grains, dairy or sugar (except dark chocolate) and he has stuck with it for this long...I could (and would not) do that, so difficult, but I can see why one would go that route.

Good luck making the switch, you have more motivation than me! If you ever want to know more about it, lemme know, I'll get you in touch with him.

[AbsolutStoli]

He only eats fruits, veggies, nuts, fish and....well, that's about it. He eats absolutely no grains, dairy or sugar (except dark chocolate) and he has stuck with it for this long...I could (and would not) do that, so difficult, but I can see why one would go that route.

so where does he get his carbs from? from nuts and potatos and other veggies like that or did he totally cut out carbs from his diet?