The Unfat Challenge.

[steve]

just arrived in flagstaff.. going to climb the highest peak in arizona tomorrow - 12633'. it'll be a big challenge for me even at this weight, and pretty much impossible when I started this thing.

can't wait!

-steve

PS - i am loving flagstaff - this place is amazing!!!!

[Brocktoon]

I'm sticking to nuts, fruits and dried fruit (hence my mango obsession) but I'm getting through a lot of it. I don't know if this is an issue but I'm also cooking less (one of my loves) because I'm not getting home from work until 9.30-10.00 at night.

Beware foods with high caloric density (a lot of calories for the volume). Dried fruits are a classic example of this. These foods are good if you are need a lot of energy and don't have time/amenities to eat a proper meal.
However, they can make your daily caloric intake skyrocket if you are idly chomping them at your desk.

Foods with low caloric density (typically foods with high water & fiber content - e.g. lettuce etc.) when you are in a more sedentary mode.

Forget where I read this (Time or U.S. News & World Report) a few years ago, but the propenent of this was a nutritionist out of Pennsylvania State University if you want to check it out.

I work in a field that is full of fits and starts. I typically am very active and also eat a lot. When work would get overbearing I had a hard time adjusting the volume of food I would eat and I used to gain weight and then when it would back off I'd get fit again. Now I adjust my eating style (in terms of caloric density) based on how much work encroaches on my exercise.

[Mrs Roo]

Beware foods with high caloric density (a lot of calories for the volume). Dried fruits are a classic example of this. These foods are good if you are need a lot of energy and don't have time/amenities to eat a proper meal.
However, they can make your daily caloric intake skyrocket if you are idly chomping them at your desk.

Foods with low caloric density (typically foods with high water & fiber content - e.g. lettuce etc.) when you are in a more sedentary mode.

Forget where I read this (Time or U.S. News & World Report) a few years ago, but the propenent of this was a nutritionist out of Pennsylvania State University if you want to check it out.

I work in a field that is full of fits and starts. I typically am very active and also eat a lot. When work would get overbearing I had a hard time adjusting the volume of food I would eat and I used to gain weight and then when it would back off I'd get fit again. Now I adjust my eating style (in terms of caloric density) based on how much work encroaches on my exercise.

Thanks. That may explain my recent weight gain. I think I have the problem of altering my intake according to my activity levels also. I will stick to fresh fruit (apples, grapes, berries and the like) until my thesis hell has finished.

Anyway, my current status:

Weight: 149 lbs
Waist: 31.5 ''
Hips: 40 ''
Bust: (your joking if you think I'm sharing that!!)

I would like to get back to and maintain 144 lbs if poss.

When is the next weigh in?

[mrryde]

Thanks. That may explain my recent weight gain. I think I have the problem of altering my intake according to my activity levels also. I will stick to fresh fruit (apples, grapes, berries and the like) until my thesis hell has finished.

Anyway, my current status:

Weight: 149 lbs
Waist: 31.5 ''
Hips: 40 ''
Bust: (your joking if you think I'm sharing that!!)

I would like to get back to and maintain 144 lbs if poss.

When is the next weigh in?

June 12th - no need to share your bust size, pictures will be fine

[FartBag Commando]

Shit. How did I miss this thread? Haven't checked the boards in quite some time but I've been on my own personal weight loss kick. Jumped into South Beach and modified it a bit... anyhow, I've dropped 20 in six weeks and just weighed in at 206 yesterday afternoon. All the old clothes (pants & shorts) I couldn't fit into six weeks ago are now back in the rotation! Looking to drop 6 to 10 more but at 6'3" not much more than that. Keep going people!!

[Tunco]

mrryde, you bastard. One more sparkpoint then me. This aggression will not stand, man.

[steve]

well, i made it to the top of humphrey's, but it was sure to spank me. endurance-wise i was ok as long as i took it slow, but a thunderstorm above treeline and a loose gravel slope that almost decided to take me down with it really scared the shit out of me.


i guess now i have the respect for mountains that you can't learn from a book. i'll post a tr sometime in the next week.

-steve

[mrryde]

mrryde, you bastard. One more sparkpoint then me. This aggression will not stand, man.

Really, the last time i looked you had a big lead

[bklyn]

So...
Does anyone have a reliable source for calculating how much protein/fat/carbs a person needs in one day.

I know the zone diet ratios is 40 carbohydrate 30 protein and 30 fat for example.

But how do you translate that into portion sizes? How do you know you're getting too much protein in one sitting? (I hear the body can't metabolize more than a certain amount in one meal - true/false?)

The only problem with fitday/spark/etc is that your feedback happens after you eat and not before when you could do something about it.

[ptavv]

Everyone should read Chris Carmichael's (Lance Armstrong's trainer) Food for Fitness. It tackles fitness for athletes (and weight loss as well) from a very good point of view.

It also answers your question trayc, as well as most of the other questions in here.

Also, the reason I'm not answering you trayc is that it depends on too many things to give you a straight up x% carbs y% protein and z% fat. For instance, your fitness level, goals, etc.

[Speedfreak]

Zone teaches palm of the hand per (meat, veg, etc.). And Steve, how do I get on the spreadsheet? I've been keeping track but forget how to get on. Good luck with the peak bag!

So...
Does anyone have a reliable source for calculating how much protein/fat/carbs a person needs in one day.

I know the zone diet ratios is 40 carbohydrate 30 protein and 30 fat for example.

But how do you translate that into portion sizes? How do you know you're getting too much protein in one sitting? (I hear the body can't metabolize more than a certain amount in one meal - true/false?)

The only problem with fitday/spark/etc is that your feedback happens after you eat and not before when you could do something about it.

[AbsolutStoli]

So...
Does anyone have a reliable source for calculating how much protein/fat/carbs a person needs in one day.

I know the zone diet ratios is 40 carbohydrate 30 protein and 30 fat for example.

But how do you translate that into portion sizes? How do you know you're getting too much protein in one sitting? (I hear the body can't metabolize more than a certain amount in one meal - true/false?)

The only problem with fitday/spark/etc is that your feedback happens after you eat and not before when you could do something about it.

this might help you in what youre looking for
http://www.nutritiondata.com/tools/calories-burned

ive been using that site a lot lately, its a good source of nutrition info on a lot of foods.

[shera]

Hope everyone is sticking to their guns on their way of eating. I've been reading and reading and the bottom line is pretty simple - processed foods were designed to extend shelf life and increase profits at the expense of your nutrition.

The grassfed beef I got from Slanker's is good: http://texasgrassfedbeef.com/index.htm

But the sockeye salmon tastes waaaaaay fishy. Need another source for seafood. I read that eating cilantro can leach the mercury out of your body and mitigate some of the effects of eating ocean fish.

[Joey Bag O' Donuts]

just arrived in flagstaff.. going to climb the highest peak in arizona tomorrow - 12633'. it'll be a big challenge for me even at this weight, and pretty much impossible when I started this thing.

can't wait!

-steve

PS - i am loving flagstaff - this place is amazing!!!!

Sweet Steve, lived in Flag for 5 years going to school. It is an amazing place. Did you try out Beaver St. Brewery?

[steve]

Sweet Steve, lived in Flag for 5 years going to school. It is an amazing place. Did you try out Beaver St. Brewery?

my first beer of 2007:


(picture taken when i finally got down from humphrey's.. celebrating the fact that i survived.. had a close call up there)

[Joey Bag O' Donuts]

my first beer of 2007:


(picture taken when i finally got down from humphrey's.. celebrating the fact that i survived.. had a close call up there)

That's what I'm talkin about!!

[mrryde]

my first beer of 2007:


(picture taken when i finally got down from humphrey's.. celebrating the fact that i survived.. had a close call up there)

mmmmmmm beer

[altachic]

Steve-you look good!

I have 10 personal training sessions again coming up in the next month. My ass will be getting kicked (more than I do on my own) starting Tuesday.

I'll put my weight in on the last weigh in date in July.

[AbsolutStoli]

bump

170.4 as of yesterday. maybe ill break into the 160s at the end of this week.

[mrryde]

I am hoping i can be sub 230 by weigh in. last weekend didnt help that effort much

[snow_slider]

The next weigh in is coming up early next week. Keep the faith!

[mrryde]

Tomorrow's weigh in day, how is everyone feeling?

[steve]

Tomorrow's weigh in day, how is everyone feeling?

making progress, just not as good as expected. I should come in about 295.

discipline has been way off that last two months. california, where I had no intentions of dieting, was bad enough - but then i got back from california and did things half-assedly.

i expect to make huge gains in month 4.

[snow_slider]

Still hovering around 182-183. Both of my kids were sick all of last week, so I didn't get a chance to exercise and the lack of sleep made me want to eat comfort food. That combo was bad news for weight loss.

[Nohillsnearby]

I've been laking serious motivation to do anything useful. Main part of show season is coming up, so I'm thinking I need to do better.