The baseball thread.

**Benny Profane** · 06-01-2007, 05:46 PM

Nation To Ken Griffey Jr.: 'We Wish It Were You Hitting 756 Home Runs'

http://www.theonion.com/content/news...fey_jr_we_wish

**StormRider** · 06-01-2007, 05:51 PM

Yeah, no worries. I imagine if you aren’t a Red Sox or Yanks fan then the coverage of it must get nauseating. Hell, it get nauseating as a Sox fan. Unfortunately for everyone the Yanks could be will always be news weather they are 20 games below .500 or 70 games above. It wouldn’t hurt anyone to throw in a little coverage of Craig Biggio’s climb to 3000 hits.

**BmillsSkier** · 06-01-2007, 11:14 PM

Definately, lots of other really good stories in MLB right now, milestone-wise and otherwise. Ken Griffey Jr's return to relevancy, Ichiro's 25 game hit streak, Youkalis' hit streak, Biggio..... the list goes on.

Personally, I'd like to think the Indians 12-11 double comeback win over Detroit in the bottom of the 9th is a great story, but that's just me.

Nausiated was how I felt when I saw ESPN pick the Yanks for Sunday Night Baseball. Infuriated is how I felt when I saw they're on Monday Night Baseball as well. Enough is enough. We've seen Clemens pitch before. I hope he gets shelled and ESPN loses viewers.

**stump832** · 06-01-2007, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Personally, I'd like to think the Indians 12-11 double comeback win over Detroit in the bottom of the 9th is a great story, but that's just me.

agreed, great game (though not so good if you're todd jones, i guess).

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

We've seen Clemens pitch before. I hope he gets shelled and ESPN loses viewers.

also agreed. that guy is a super douche.

**The AD** · 06-02-2007, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Ichiro's 25 game hit streak

Ichiro's got about the best chance pf anyone now playing to break DiMaggio's hitting streak record. It isn't likely, but you never know. Ichiro now has over 1,400 hits in the Majors. Hard to believe he's been here that long already.

Personally, I'd like to think the Indians 12-11 double comeback win over Detroit in the bottom of the 9th is a great story, but that's just me.

It's only a great story for Indians fans, not Tigers fans, you prick! What's happened to the Tigers? They're on a real skid here.

**smmokan** · 06-02-2007, 02:08 PM

What about Jeter, with his multiple 20-game streaks? He's up there in the realm of possibility too.

**Benny Profane** · 06-02-2007, 02:18 PM

I'm afraid that that record is right up there with Ripkin's in difficulty. But if someone gets close, I, for one, will be much more excited to watch it threatened. Than Gehrig's, I mean.

**iceman** · 06-03-2007, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Than Gehrig's, I mean.

Does Gehrig have a record?

How'd you skanks fans like today's game? Your team sucks pretty hard right now.

I'm not counting them out and I'm not predicting, but you guys have a fucking godawful team right now.

Somebody give Mancavebitch an advil.

**Brock Landers** · 06-03-2007, 03:15 PM

Was at yesterdays sox win, just waking up now with a nice lil hangover. Too bad for Youk his streak had to end, but we gave him a nice clap for his efforts.

**powbmps** · 06-03-2007, 04:02 PM

I managed to score some tickets for Saturday too. The game had it all. 5 home runs, 10 walks, rain delay, full contact. Lowell is a friggin' stud! That barehanded play was sweet. Too bad about Youk's hit streak. Three walks, that guy is patient at the plate.

Brock, where were you sitting? I was in section 16, row 14. Not bad seats. Good to be under cover last night.

**Benny Profane** · 06-03-2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Does Gehrig have a record?

Not after your man Cal bored us with the tedium of breaking it.

And, I agree, the Yankees suck. One can only wonder how Pinella would be reacting right now if he was the man. He's having a ton of fun in Chicago.

**Brock Landers** · 06-03-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by powbmps

Brock, where were you sitting? I was in section 16, row 14. Not bad seats. Good to be under cover last night.

Section 43, bleachers. Not under cover- during the rain delay everyone went in and I was the only person around who just sat through the rainstorm. I had 2 full beers- no need to move.

**smmokan** · 06-04-2007, 07:16 AM

Were any of you Boston fans there last night to see A-Rod's game-winning home run off of Papelbon? I'm surprised no one has said anything about it.

**iceman** · 06-04-2007, 07:22 AM

You can't have a walk-off homer on the road. I saw the hit, though. Jesus that was a long fucking game.

I doubt the loss will crush the Sox but it might jumpstart the Yankees if they have enough players left unhurt to field a team.

**MassLiberal** · 06-04-2007, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by smmokan

Were any of you Boston fans there last night to see A-Rod's walk off home run off of Papelbon? I'm surprised no one has said anything about it.

No real point in talking about a team that is still 12.5 games out of first and in fourth place in the division.

By the way, do you know anything about baseball? You seem to be talking out of your ass a fair amount recently.

**smmokan** · 06-04-2007, 08:36 AM

You're right, I don't know anything about baseball. I'll shut up and let all you Boston fans continue sucking each other's dicks.

**irul&ublo** · 06-04-2007, 08:53 AM

**irul&ublo** · 06-04-2007, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by smmokan

You're right, I don't know anything about baseball. I'll shut up and let all you Boston fans continue sucking each other's dicks.

They're not "Boston fans", they're "chowds" Please use the appropriate terminology.

As for the dick sucking....it wouldn't surprise me.

**stump832** · 06-04-2007, 10:20 AM

According to the latest Baseball Prospectus Postseason Odds Report, the Sox have a 93% chance of winning the division, and 96% chance of making the playoffs. The Yankees have a 3% chance at the division, and a 22% chance of making the playoffs.

Originally Posted by smmokan

I'm surprised no one has said anything about it.

Indifference - a double digit lead will do that.

**pappag** · 06-04-2007, 03:51 PM

Now this is how you leave a game after being ejected:

**ak_powder_monkey** · 06-04-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Nick Pappagiorgio

Now this is how you leave a game after being ejected:

THe drawing of home plate was outstanding

**pappag** · 06-05-2007, 11:22 AM

Slow week in the baseball thread?

Enter Gary Sheffield and more of his hall of fame comments.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875

Major League Baseball says Gary Sheffield's recent comments about Latin players in baseball "hasn't hit the radar screen," but several people associated with the game have taken notice.

MLB vice president for public relations Richard Levin gave no indication that baseball is considering disciplining Sheffield, when asked by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, but told the newspaper to "consider the source" of the comments.

In an interview in the June issue of GQ magazine, the typically outspoken Tigers designated hitter said Latin players have replaced African-Americans as baseball's most prevalent minority because they are easier to control.

"I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. … [It's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them," he told the magazine.

"Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.

"These are the things my race demands. So, if you're equally good as this Latin player, guess who's going to get sent home? I know a lot of players that are home now can outplay a lot of these guys."

Eddie Perez, a former teammate of Sheffield's with the Braves who is now the team's bullpen coach, had a stronger reaction, however.

"That's going to hurt a lot of people," he said. "I don't know [if he'll be suspended], but somebody needs to say something."

Perez dismissed Sheffield's theory on why there are fewer blacks playing in the big leagues.

"I don't think we're taking anybody's food off the table. We're just putting food on the table for us," he told the newspaper

"They're paying Latin players lots of money. But it's not because they like us -- it's because we're doing good. When we play, we play hard. You don't hear too many Latin players talk a lot of trash."

Lisa Navarrete, a vice president of La Razza, the Latino national civil rights and advocacy group in Washington, told The New York Daily News that Sheffield was targeting the wrong group for the lack of diversity in Major League Baseball.

"He's targeting the wrong culprit, the players themselves. Then he resorts to the stereotyping that he himself is trying to fight. I don't want African-Americans to be stereotyped. Plenty of players belie Sheffield's characterizations. It's unfortunate, because at the end of the day, the situations faced by Latins and African-Americans have more in common than they are different," she told the newspaper.

According to a 2005 report by the University of Central Florida Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport, only 8.5 percent of major leaguers were African-American -- the lowest percentage since the report was initiated in the mid-1980s. By contrast, whites comprised 59.5 percent of the majors' player pool, Latinos 28.7 percent and Asians 2.5.

White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen didn't want to comment directly on Sheffield's remarks, but told The New York Daily News but gave the newspaper his own theory on why there are more Latin players in the game now than African-Americans.

"I guarantee that Latin American people play more baseball than any people, because that's all we have," Guillen told the newspaper. "You have more people playing baseball in Venezuela or the Dominican than anywhere, so there are going to be more players from there."

Guillen also told the newspaper that he believes there are more Latin players in baseball than African-Americans because players from Central and South American and the Caribbean can sign as free agents while American players have to go through the draft.

"It's not that they can control us; maybe when we come to this country, we're hungry," Guillen told the newspaper. "We're trying to survive. Those guys sign for $500,000 or $1 million and they're made. We have a couple of dollars. You can sign one African-American player for the price of 30 Latin players. Look at how many Latin players have won Cy Youngs or MVP awards the last couple of years, how many Latin players have been in the All-Star Game; it's quantity and quality."

**Benny Profane** · 06-05-2007, 01:17 PM

Why he isn't missed at the growing list of teams who got rid of him. But I do like to watch him play. Watch for encounters with law enforcement after retirement.

**iceman** · 06-05-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Why he isn't missed at the growing list of teams who got rid of him. But I do like to watch him play. Watch for encounters with law enforcement after retirement.

I just wish he'd quit waving the bat back and forth so much, it's annoying.

**The AD** · 06-05-2007, 01:53 PM

I'm kinda wondering what kind of things "they" are telling the players to do. Things like show up for BP on time, run out flies, don't do coke, that kind of thing?