"The current approach is not working..."

**Tippster** · 12-06-2006, 10:20 AM

WASHINGTON, Dec 6 (Reuters) - The Democratic co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group said on Wednesday that America's ability to resolve the crisis in Iraq is narrowing and the costs could rise to more than $1 trillion.
At a news conference to release the bipartisan group's long-awaited report, former Rep. Lee Hamilton said, "The current approach is not working and the ability of the United States to influence events is diminishing."
"No course of action in Iraq (is) guaranteed to stop a slide toward chaos. Yet, in our view, not all options have been exhausted."
Hamilton also said the high-level panel concluded the U.S. costs "could well rise over a $1 trillion."

Let the Arm-twisting Begin.

**Rontele** · 12-06-2006, 10:21 AM

This war was great strategery on the part of the President.

**cmsummit** · 12-06-2006, 10:26 AM

money well spent, if you ask me.

**Sutter** · 12-06-2006, 10:27 AM

Peace out my Iraqi homies.

**lemon boy** · 12-06-2006, 10:27 AM

I for one am PROUD that President Bush was able to defeat Saddam, Terrorism AND bring peace to the middle east!

KUDOS Mister President, KUDOS!

**hutash** · 12-06-2006, 10:28 AM

"The current approach is not working and the ability of the United States to influence events is diminishing."

No shit!!! and how much time, effort and money was necessary to figure that out?

They still don't get it, though.

"No course of action in Iraq (is) guaranteed to stop a slide toward chaos. Yet, in our view, not all options have been exhausted."

Iraq is not on a slide "toward" kaos, it has been there for a while.

**Cono Este** · 12-06-2006, 10:31 AM

It sounded like a therapist with a diagnose of Bipolar disorder.

**cmsummit** · 12-06-2006, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by hutash

"The current approach is not working and the ability of the United States to influence events is diminishing."

No shit!!! and how much time, effort and money was necessary to figure that out?

don't forget about the number of lives lost.

**Free Range Lobster** · 12-06-2006, 10:37 AM

They should have done it through the poopenhausen.

**skibuminwyo** · 12-06-2006, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by lemon boy

I for one am PROUD that President Bush was able to defeat Saddam, Terrorism AND bring peace to the middle east!

KUDOS Mister President, KUDOS!

PLEASE tell me your being sarcastic

no offense, but things are in worse shape over there than when we went. yea one bad guy is out of the picture, but how many more are there? here? anywhere? we are no closer to peace in the middle east than we ever have been. probably farther from :-s

**Cono Este** · 12-06-2006, 11:09 AM

"upwards of 1 trillion" "not everything has been exhausted"

Sounds to me like more than one person thinks we can win, whatever "win" means.

**hemas** · 12-06-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

"upwards of 1 trillion" "not everything has been exhausted"

Sounds to me like more than one person thinks we can win, whatever "win" means.

I hope it means just not getting out, but infact clearing the clusterfuck you have created...

**brettf** · 12-06-2006, 11:16 AM

he's being sarcastic

**Alek** · 12-06-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by hemas

I hope it means just not getting out, but infact clearing the clusterfuck you have created...

My suggestion is that all the people that voted for Bush are sent to Iraq for a tour of duty, and after they come back they get stuck with a high-interest credit card with 12,000$ on it (their share of the waste they caused) and 3 years to pay it off.

I see no reason why I should pay for their stupidity just because I live in the same country!

**ColMan** · 12-06-2006, 11:19 AM

As Al Gore said this morning "This is the worst strategy mistake in the history of the United States".

**str8line** · 12-06-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Alek

My suggestion is that all the people that voted for Bush are sent to Iraq for a tour of duty, and after they come back they get stuck with a high-interest credit card with 12,000$ on it (their share of the waste they caused) and 3 years to pay it off.

I see no reason why I should pay for their stupidity just because I live in the same country!

I'd vote for that. Serious lack of judgement and foresight by all Bush voters regardless of their reasons for voting for the piece of shit.

**Mcwop** · 12-06-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Alek

My suggestion is that all the people that voted for Bush are sent to Iraq for a tour of duty, and after they come back they get stuck with a high-interest credit card with 12,000$ on it (their share of the waste they caused) and 3 years to pay it off.

I see no reason why I should pay for their stupidity just because I live in the same country!

Shouldn't we also send all those that voted for the congresspersons and senators that gave Bush a blank check to go do it? Even Kerry voted for the resolution. Seems to me, that there is more than one dummy in Washington.

**PaSucks** · 12-06-2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Alek

My suggestion is that all the people that voted for Bush are sent to Iraq for a tour of duty, and after they come back they get stuck with a high-interest credit card with 12,000$ on it (their share of the waste they caused) and 3 years to pay it off.

I see no reason why I should pay for their stupidity just because I live in the same country!

Well shit... My mom can't afford that!

And what do we do with those that didn't vote?

**hemas** · 12-06-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by PaSucks

And what do we do with those that didn't vote?

Shoot the hostage...

Or just ship 'em somewhere else for humanitarian needs (they didn't vote, so quite bitching).

**Cono Este** · 12-06-2006, 11:37 AM

Quotes from Al Gore's speech to the Council on Foreign Relations

"In the immediate aftermath, I expressed full support for our Commander-in-Chief, President George W. Bush. Tonight I reaffirm that support of the President's conduct of the military campaign in Afghanistan, and I appreciate his candor in telling the American people that this will be a long struggle - for which the nation must be braced and its political leadership united across party lines."

"I also support the President's stated goals in the next phases of the war against terrorism as he laid them out in the State of the Union."

"Since the State of the Union, there has been much discussion of whether Iraq, Iran and North Korea truly constitute an "Axis of Evil." As far as I'm concerned, there really is something to be said for occasionally putting diplomacy aside and laying one's cards on the table. There is value in calling evil by its name."

"One should never underestimate the power of bold words coming from a President of the United States."

"Even if we give first priority to the destruction of terrorist networks, and even if we succeed, there are still governments that could bring us great harm. And there is a clear case that one of these governments in particular represents a virulent threat in a class by itself: Iraq."

"As far as I am concerned, a final reckoning with that government should be on the table. To my way of thinking, the real question is not the principle of the thing, but of making sure that this time we will finish the matter on our terms."

"In 1991, I crossed party lines and supported the use of force against Saddam Hussein, but he was allowed to survive his defeat as the result of a calculation we all had reason to deeply regret for the ensuing decade. And we still do. So this time, if we resort to force, we must absolutely get it right. It must be an action set up carefully and on the basis of the most realistic concepts. Failure cannot be an option, which means that we must be prepared to go the limit. And wishful thinking based on best-case scenarios or excessively literal transfers of recent experience to different conditions would be a recipe for disaster."

**ski_adk** · 12-06-2006, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mcwop

Seems to me, that there is more than one dummy in Washington.

the only bumper sticker on my car

**Mcwop** · 12-06-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by ski_adk

the only bumper sticker on my car

I like it!

**Cono Este** · 12-06-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mcwop

I like it!

But dont bag on Al Gore, He's the Messiah.

**rideit** · 12-06-2006, 11:59 AM

McWop, you seem to forget that pretty much any and all intel provided to congress, the senate, and the U.N. had been filtered, handled, and manipulated by a 'certain group'. A group that had a clear and deeply flawed agenda. Don't misrepresent how senate came to it's conclusions then.

**Alek** · 12-06-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mcwop

Shouldn't we also send all those that voted for the congresspersons and senators that gave Bush a blank check to go do it?

Good point! Since 90% of the pussies in congress voted to give king georgie his toy, we should garnish their wages retroactively to help pay for the war they approved! That includes Kerry and Gore. I think if any big-name democrat had had the balls to vote against the war, he would have had a good chance to beat the shrub in 2004. But they were all too scared to appear 'weak on terror' so now they should pay too.