Check Out Our Shop
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Save whomever we can

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Lima, Peru
    Posts
    1,534

    Save whomever we can

    Save Whomever We Can

    by George Packer
    Post date 11.27.06 | Issue date 11.27.06

    A few days ago, the brother of my friend Osman was one of seven Sunni workers in a shop in a mixed neighborhood of western Baghdad who were rounded up at gunpoint by Mahdi Army militiamen and taken to the local Shia mosque. There, they were taunted about Saddam Hussein's death sentence and then, one by one, shot in the head. Osman's brother was only grazed and survived. But, when the bodies were loaded into a pickup truck and brought to a nearby Iraqi Army checkpoint, a soldier in uniform noticed that he was still alive. "Let's see you stay alive now," the soldier said and shot him again, through the eye. Somehow Osman's brother survived the second bullet, too, though he lost his eye and his brain began to swell up. He was taken to a Baghdad hospital in critical condition. The ministry of health is dominated by Moqtada Al Sadr's movement, and, when I called Osman while he was visiting his brother one night, he had to leave the room before talking with me: It was too dangerous to be overheard speaking English on his cell phone. After a couple of days, Osman, who is a doctor, decided the hospital was too dangerous and unsanitary. He smuggled his brother back into their house, but word of his survival has spread. And, if his brother's name was on a death list, Osman's name will quite likely be on one now, too.

    Osman (not his real name, which he asked me not to use) has spent the last two years working with Western journalists in Iraq. He never told anyone in his family, concocting elaborate lies when, for example, he recently traveled to London to collect a prize. He has a scholarship to study journalism in the United States starting in the fall of 2007. I would like him to leave Iraq sooner. But it isn't easy for an Iraqi to get out.

    Recently, I asked my friend what he would do if U.S. forces began to withdraw from Baghdad. Osman, an utterly secular Sunni who despises the religious extremists of both sects, replied, "I would have to be protected by Al Qaeda." Between the Sunni jihadists who would immediately take over his area and the Shia death squads hunting down people with his quintessentially Sunni name, Osman would be forced to choose the former. He has begun to establish connections with the extremists in his neighborhood to win their trust. "I would have to obey their rules," he said. (Their rules against blue jeans, shorts, Western-style haircuts, and women driving cars carry the death penalty.) "We'll be happy to do it because they will give us their protection--at first." Over the long run, the jihadists would establish a reign of terror, as they have done in the towns of Anbar province that have come under their control.

    When the war in Iraq was an insurgency, there was a chance of ending it with a better counterinsurgency and, ultimately, politics. Once it took the form of a civil war, America's role became increasingly marginal and precarious. I saw this vividly during my last trip to Iraq, at the beginning of the year, and it accelerated shortly after my return, when Al Qaeda bombed the Shia shrine in Samarra. When we tried to withdraw from Baghdad in the summer, the violence spiked. When we poured more troops into Baghdad in the fall, the violence spiked. The status quo is untenable. More troops would have made a difference in the first or second year of the war, but no longer. So U.S. policy has to change.

    The shape of that change has already been much discussed by experts, and it will be further discussed in the new Congress, in the Baker-Hamilton Commission, in other places. The best outcome of these discussions would be a general recognition, among Democrats and rational Republicans, that the war the administration has fought is lost. But how we leave will be as consequential as how we arrived. A precipitous U.S. withdrawal could bring as many disasters to Iraq, the Middle East, and the United States as the precipitous invasion brought. We should let the Iraqi government know that our continued support--the numbers of troops, their rate of departure, the training and advising of Iraqi forces, the money spent on reconstruction--depends on its progress toward a political settlement between the warring factions, if possible with the involvement of Iraq's neighbors. There are many reasons to think that this, too, will fail. If it does, the United States will have to face the hard fact that it can no longer play any constructive role in Iraq, other than simply to slow down the rate of disintegration.

    But this is the language of policymakers, and I don't want to devote my contribution to proposals that they are professionally better equipped to make. I want to talk about something else. Withdrawal means that the United States will have to watch Iraqis die in ever greater numbers without doing much of anything to prevent it, because the welfare of Iraqis will no longer be among our central concerns. Those Iraqis who have had anything to do with the occupation and its promises of democracy will be among the first to be killed: the translators, the government officials, the embassy employees, the journalists, the organizers of women's and human rights groups. As it is, they are being killed one by one. (I personally know at least half a dozen of them who have been murdered.) Without the protection of the Green Zone, U.S. bases, or the inhibiting effect on the Sunni and Shia militias of 150,000 U.S. troops, they will be killed in much greater numbers. To me, the relevant historical analogy is not the helicopters taking off from the roof of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, leaving thousands of Vietnamese to the reeducation camps. It is the systematic slaughter by the Khmer Rouge of every Cambodian who appeared to have had anything to do with the West.

    If the United States leaves Iraq, our last shred of honor and decency will require us to save as many of these Iraqis as possible. In June, a U.S. Embassy cable about the lives of the Iraqi staff was leaked to The Washington Post. Among many disturbing examples of intimidation and fear was this sentence: "In March, a few staff approached us to ask what provisions would we make for them if we evacuate." The cable gave no answer. The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad does not issue visas. Iraqis who want to come to the United States must make their way across dangerous territory to a neighboring country that has a U.S. Embassy with a consular section. Iran and Syria do not; Jordan has recently begun to bar entry to Iraqi men under the age of 35. For a military translator to have a chance at coming to the United States, he must be able to prove that he worked for at least a year with U.S. forces and have the recommendation of a general officer--nearly impossible in most cases. Our current approach essentially traps Iraqis inside their country, where they will have to choose, like Osman, between jihadists and death squads.

    We should start issuing visas in Baghdad, as well as in the regional embassies in Mosul, Kirkuk, Hilla, and Basra. We should issue them liberally, which means that we should vastly increase our quota for Iraqi refugees. (Last year, it was fewer than 200.) We should prepare contingency plans for massive airlifts and ground escorts. We should be ready for desperate and angry crowds at the gates of the Green Zone and U.S. bases. We should not allow wishful thinking to put off these decisions until it's too late. We should not compound our betrayals of Iraqis who put their hopes in our hands.

    Since hearing the story of Osman's brother, I've been unable to get out of my head the British poet James Fenton's "Cambodia," written after Phnom Penh fell to the Khmer Rouge:

    One man shall smile one day and say goodbye.
    Two shall be left, two shall be left to die.

    One man shall give his best advice.
    Three men shall pay the price.

    One man shall live, live to regret.
    Four men shall meet the debt.

    One man shall wake from terror to his bed.
    Five men shall be dead.

    One man to five. A million men to one.
    And still they die. And still the war goes on.
    George Packer has covered the war for The New Yorker and is the author of The Assassins' Gate: America in Iraq.

    ------------------------------------------------
    Really sobering article from the New Republic. Makes you want to cry for the kids who will grow up without parents or want to break something in absolute rage at the stupidity and willful mendacity of our political leadership...

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    slc
    Posts
    19,278
    Total fucking goatfuck. We're going to be paying for this (economically, socially and politically) for generations.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    794
    It is my firm opinion that this administration has set our country back decades and decades in the areas of foreign policy, the environment and even the economy.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wasatch
    Posts
    6,250
    While there are some things that could be improved in terms of environmental and economic policy, I wouldn't go so far as to lump them together with the foreign policy disaster. Also, the executive branch has much less control over environmental and economic policy compared to foreign policy. It's Congress that bungles that shit.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Moose, Iowa
    Posts
    8,117
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    Also, the executive branch has much less control over environmental and economic policy compared to foreign policy. It's Congress that bungles that shit.
    Bullshit - Its Bush bungling our enviromental policy, or trying every way he can - legal, illegal or otherwise.

    Just one example :

    After finalizing a seven-year public review process, the Clinton Administration improved the air conditioner efficiency standard from SEER 10, which was established by Congress in 1987, to SEER 13. The change from SEER 10 to SEER 13 represented a 30 percent improvement in energy efficiency. The Clinton Administration decision required all new air conditioning equipment sold in the United States to comply with the SEER 13 standard by January 2006.

    In April 2001, however, the Bush Administration addressed the possibility of weakening the standard to SEER 12, and in July, the Department of Energy, despite its mission to reduce America's dependence on foreign oil and developing energy efficient technologies for buildings, homes, transportation, power systems and industry, formally proposed to roll back the standard. Earlier this year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled that the department had done so improperly.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    slc
    Posts
    19,278
    Or the Clear Skies Initiative, which tightened mercury emissions standards but eliminated emission standards for all other heavy metals?

    Or the reversal of the roadless rule?

    Or fast-tracking coal fired powerplants?

    Or the Healthy Forests Initiative, which opened public lands to logging under the guise of fire protection?

    Or the unrelenting push to drill in ANWR?

    Kyoto?


    Should I continue?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Moose, Iowa
    Posts
    8,117
    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Or the Clear Skies Initiative, which tightened mercury emissions standards but eliminated emission standards for all other heavy metals?

    Or the reversal of the roadless rule?

    Or fast-tracking coal fired powerplants?

    Or the Healthy Forests Initiative, which opened public lands to logging under the guise of fire protection?

    Or the unrelenting push to drill in ANWR?

    Kyoto?


    Should I continue?

    Where would you stop though? There are books written. I highly recommend Crimes Against Nature. A great read. My roomie is a die hard republican and I'd read some of this stuff out loud. Pissed him off - that his leadership would try to pull these stunts. Tragic.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1120-01.htm

    The book.
    Last edited by uglymoney; 11-28-2006 at 03:46 PM.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    431C8AAB4
    Posts
    1,620
    That really, really sucks. I guess it's not surprising that they have a hard time with people over there if they fear being killed for helping out or so much as being friendly.

Similar Threads

  1. I want to save my season?
    By snowranger in forum Gimp Central
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-27-2006, 07:07 PM
  2. Save the Tram Fundraiser!
    By cmsummit in forum General Ski / Snowboard Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-02-2005, 11:52 AM
  3. Save up to 80% everyday on all Alpine Skiing gear!
    By cyper in forum Gear Swap (List View)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-18-2005, 04:10 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •