"BROS"

**h2oski** · 11-09-2006, 03:23 PM

I am 5'11" 212 lbs. 48 years old. I ski 90% off piste and want to buy some 179cm "Bros". I don't jump anything higher than 8-10 feet (knees). I ski fast in pow and crud; I also like to ski tight trees in all conditions. I ski Utah(Alta/Snowbird/Solitude),Whistler, and Fernie.
I have demoed Mantras for 10 days and found them to be good doing these things except that they get knocked around in heavy crud.
How do you think the "Bros" would do and would you get the softs or the stiffs?
Splat if you read this I would appreciate any comments.

Thanks,
H2oski

**SkiEvil** · 11-09-2006, 04:16 PM

That is a great question that I have never seen asked here before. I hope someone will answer it for you.

**skimasterflex** · 11-09-2006, 04:26 PM

All light weight stiff shorter skis are going to do well at most of those things but they are all going to get knocked around a bit in the heavy crud too. A ski has to be a bit longer and straighter not to mention wider to have really good heavy crud control. I take it you demoed the 177 Mantras then? If so the 179 Bro is going to be a bit better in heavy crud in the stiff flex simply because of the little extra width. Otherwise if you're really interested in crud busting at 212lbs you probably ought to buy a longer ski IMO.

Also you are probably going to be jonged for not using the search bar, jong.

**cmsummit** · 11-09-2006, 04:30 PM

bros? never heard of them. are they "shaped" skis?

**irul&ublo** · 11-09-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by cmsummit

bros? never heard of them. are they "shaped" skis?

No...they are magic snowblades. They are made by cross dressing Scientologist elves in a secret cave near Area 51. They may...or may not...utilize alien technology. They are core.

**SkiEvil** · 11-09-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by irul&ublo

No...they are magic snowblades. They are made by cross dressing Scientologist elves in a secret cave near Area 51. They may...or may not...utilize alien technology. They are core.

They have an alien in the core? Cool.

**Biscosity Breakdown** · 11-09-2006, 04:50 PM

you can ski on "bros" that are only 179 cm tall. Those are some heady ass midgets!

**Biscosity Breakdown** · 11-09-2006, 04:58 PM

Don't know why I said midgets. Fuck I need a beer.

**The Dad** · 11-09-2006, 05:40 PM

IIRC, this was roughly how I started my life on this board. Except I was 10 years younger and a couple inches taller.

10.5 months ago, I took delivery of my 188 Softs. I have been generally delirious with them.

My instinct at your specs would be stiffs in the 179. But this years softs were last years stiffs, so it's hard to say.

Splat? Ty?

**splat** · 11-09-2006, 07:00 PM

Yo............been kinda busy, so I have to rely on the locals to keep threads like this visible. bwaaaaaaaa!

If you're gonna do it, you'd need 179 stiffs. But my recommend goes to the 188 softs, given your weight and where you plan to ski. 188 softs are freakin dreamboats.

Thanks for thinkin Bro!

**Shen** · 11-09-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by splat

Yo............been kinda busy, so I have to rely on the locals to keep threads like this visible. bwaaaaaaaa!

If you're gonna do it, you'd need 179 stiffs. But my recommend goes to the 188 softs, given your weight and where you plan to ski. 188 softs are freakin dreamboats.

Thanks for thinkin Bro!

Any way to demo Bro's on the East Coast??

**The Dad** · 11-09-2006, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Shen

Any way to demo Bro's on the East Coast??

Same as on the West Coast: (1) Find a Broselytizer. (2) Ask to borrow skis.

**Atrain505** · 11-09-2006, 07:26 PM

I don't know how aggressive of a skier you are but with your height and build you may even want to try the 188 stiffs. Still super manuervable, and bashes through crud like it is built for that specific reason.

Squatch · 11-09-2006, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by alpinedad

Same as on the West Coast: (1) Find a Broselytizer. (2) Ask to borrow skis.

(3) Buy him a beer.

**splat** · 11-09-2006, 08:29 PM

(4.) werd(s)

**Shen** · 11-09-2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by splat

(4.) werd(s)

Interesting marketing strategy-Unfortunatley,I would think it keeps a lot of people 'bro-less'.....bummer...

Squatch · 11-09-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Shen

Interesting marketing strategy-Unfortunatley,I would think it keeps a lot of people 'bro-less'.....bummer...

i don't think marketing is their problem. I'd be willing to bet they sell every ski they make, including the blems.

**nick > jesus** · 11-09-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Shen

Interesting marketing strategy-Unfortunatley,I would think it keeps a lot of people 'bro-less'.....bummer...

watch this (if you have not already) and perhaps you will understand PM gears situation a little better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnh5LGi_0sg

**The Dad** · 11-09-2006, 08:56 PM

It's pretty much the only marketing strategy for skis that are only sold direct (PM Gear, Drake, Kingswood, etc). Shops don't want to carry demos if they can't make any money selling them. The tradeoff is that it keeps prices down.

**Shen** · 11-09-2006, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by alpinedad

It's pretty much the only marketing strategy for skis that are only sold direct (PM Gear, Drake, Kingswood, etc). Shops don't want to carry demos if they can't make any money selling them. The tradeoff is that it keeps prices down.

Understandable-my post was not intended to be a slap @ Bro's-more of an expression of frustration due to lack of availability

**schuss** · 11-09-2006, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Shen

Any way to demo Bro's on the East Coast??

Let me know. I have a pair of 179's with demo's on them. Depending on how production works out, I may have a pair of 188's at a later date, but I wouldn't count on it. I'll be at K and in the Stowe/Smuggular area all winter.

**yarmmit** · 11-10-2006, 12:18 AM

My response to Splat last season still sums up my opinion to last year's 179 stiffs which are this year's soft model. For reference I'm 185 and the same height as you and ski Snowbird, Alta and Switzerland. I demoed the Mantra 184 last year for a comparison with the Bro. Plan to be on the 179 stiff this season and the 188 soft.

Either you or the group of guys who put this ski
> together are the stuff of genius.
>
> Best ski I've ever had on my feet. Skied everything
> from windblow powder, avalanche debris, corn, groomed
> and boilerplate the last three days. It does
> everything I asked it to do and more. What is so
> freaky is its stability at warp speed and the ability
> to drive through crud and at the same time pop off
> short turns on the steep. It also carves and drifts
> without a hiccup. I just can't figure out how you got
> it to do all of this and be as light as it is. It
> absolutely blows skis like the Volkl Mantra off the
> hill.

**soul_skier** · 11-10-2006, 12:59 AM

I have 188 softs with nx21s for bc on the east coast, and I'll be all over stowe and tucks all this winter....any mag is welcome to try them for a run or 4

**Shen** · 11-10-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by schuss

Let me know. I have a pair of 179's with demo's on them. Depending on how production works out, I may have a pair of 188's at a later date, but I wouldn't count on it. I'll be at K and in the Stowe/Smuggular area all winter.

Originally Posted by soul_skier

I have 188 softs with nx21s for bc on the east coast, and I'll be all over stowe and tucks all this winter....any mag is welcome to try them for a run or 4

EXCELLENT-Thanks for the opportunity! I will be looking forward to taking you up on the offer!!!