HEY STRING, YOU SUCK!

[telepariah]

What am I supposed to be scared? Give me a break.

[iceman]

What am I supposed to be scared? Give me a break.

Knock yourself out guy, I don't give a fuck.

[leroy jenkins]

What am I supposed to be scared? Give me a break.

No, you're not supposed to be scared, you're just supposed to realize that you have better things to do with your time.

[telepariah]

I can definitely agree with that. It is a waste of time arguing with people who think that anyone who disagrees with them is incapable of thinking for themselves.

[MeatPuppet]

...people offended ARE offended because they've been TAUGHT to not accept that type of shit simply on basis...

For several years I was an assistant instructor at a large kung fu school. We would periodically have women come in who had been raped, mugged, or been victims of domestic violence.

You have to have a pseudo realistic attack if you ever want to learn how to shut down a real attacker, so some of the drills we did got pretty rough. We were always very conscientious when first introducing these women to the more physical drills, as they were prone to flash backs.

You could tell immediatly when when the drill was getting to them; they would begin to lose coordination, their movements were less fluid, tension began to creep into their body. If the drill were allowed to continue, they would have been in danger of a full blown emotional hijacking.

We never let it get to that point. Whenever I saw the first signs of distress I would stop the drill and ask them if they wanted to take a break. Many times the first thing they would say is "why?". In the first stages of a panic attack, the person is normally unaware of what is happening with their emotions. Their consious mind is slowly being pushed out of the drivers seat and the trauma induced reaction patterns are taking over. As the weeks and (sadly sometimes) months went by, you could see them slowly become more aware of their own emotions and begin to retrain themselves so that, eventually, those reaction patterns would remain burried and not something they would have to constantly fight.

We, as a society, are just beginning to retrain ourselves. We went through a traumatic event. The civil rights movement was good and necessary and we are better for it. But our challenge now is to learn to tell the difference between a racist issue and an issue involveing race. Far too many times we see a picture, or hear a joke, that has a racial component(it might even contain a racial stereotype) and our knee jerk reaction is to start flameing the person for being a racist. At one time, in our recent past, that was healthy. It no longer is.

We will be far healthier(and richer), as a society, when we learn to treat racial issues more intelligently and stop letting the trauma-induced reaction patterns from out past dictate our behavior. That's not to say we shouldn't react strongly to real racism when we run across it, we should. But we have to be able to tell the difference between what is and is not racism. Right now, we are having a difficult time doing that.[/diatribe]

[Dug]

Coming from someone who grew up abroad and had no idea there was any sort of connection between african americans and watermelon - this whole thread has either been retarded or eye-opening.

I can't decide which.

[jwelch]

For several years I was an assistant instructor at a large kung fu school. We would periodically have women come in who had been raped, mugged, or been victims of domestic violence.

You have to have a pseudo realistic attack if you ever want to learn how to shut down a real attacker, so some of the drills we did got pretty rough. We were always very conscientious when first introducing these women to the more physical drills, as they were prone to flash backs.

You could tell immediatly when when the drill was getting to them; they would begin to lose coordination, their movements were less fluid, tension began to creep into their body. If the drill were allowed to continue, they would have been in danger of a full blown emotional hijacking.

We never let it get to that point. Whenever I saw the first signs of distress I would stop the drill and ask them if they wanted to take a break. Many times the first thing they would say is "why?". In the first stages of a panic attack, the person is normally unaware of what is happening with their emotions. Their consious mind is slowly being pushed out of the drivers seat and the trauma induced reaction patterns are taking over. As the weeks and (sadly sometimes) months went by, you could see them slowly become more aware of their own emotions and begin to retrain themselves so that, eventually, those reaction patterns would remain burried and not something they would have to constantly fight.

We, as a society, are just beginning to retrain ourselves. We went through a traumatic event. The civil rights movement was good and necessary and we are better for it. But our challenge now is to learn to tell the difference between a racist issue and an issue involveing race. Far too many times we see a picture, or hear a joke, that has a racial component(it might even contain a racial stereotype) and our knee jerk reaction is to start flameing the person for being a racist. At one time, in our recent past, that was healthy. It no longer is.

We will be far healthier(and richer), as a society, when we learn to treat racial issues more intelligently and stop letting the trauma-induced reaction patterns from out past dictate our behavior. That's not to say we shouldn't react strongly to real racism when we run across it, we should. But we have to be able to tell the difference between what is and is not racism. Right now, we are having a difficult time doing that.[/diatribe]

Quoted because this is an excellent post.

[telepariah]

I'll only buy it if it applies both to the victims of past trauma and those who do something that offends and throw up every defense imaginable when they get called on it. Otherwise it is simply justification for people who were never targets of racism to decide now what isn't racist and to tell the people who are targets of racism how they are supposed to feel and to tell them to get over it. And that is what has been happening on this thread.

In a just society, it isn't the person who tells the joke who gets to say if it is or isn't offensive. It is the people who are offended who get to express how the joke made them feel and to have their feelings respected. That's not PC. It is standing up to bullying and calling it what it is.

And I find it hilariously ironic that I was on the other side of this argument in a recent thread over on teletips where people were all upset because Andrew McLean was teasing them about telemarking. When somebody said that teasing telemarkers for telemarking is the same type of humor that Archie Bunker used on All in The Family, I called bullshit. I am not without a sense of humor and an ability to laugh at myself. But I don't believe like Carlos Mencia does that everything is fair game. I draw the line at characteristics about a person that are inate and not chosen behaviors. Again, that isn't PC to me.

[Dirty Hoar]

Excellent observation Meatpuppet.

[dk_alaskan]

'Cause he's Danish, bro. Lighten up.

Havarti with Dill is his favorite cheese, need I say more?

He looks like a wop to me though.

Who's a Dane? i thought there was only one of us on here. Must be a new record-2 Danes who ski.....I was just screwing with EPSkis....

Havarti really isnt much of a cheese, it's a good beginners cheese, Gammle Ole is a good one IF you can stand the smell, but i am prejudice towards the smell of it, so i don't eat it....

BTW, I prefer Danish clam's NOT kielbasa's, hope he does too...

[Blurred]

So in summary and taken to it's limits in a Blurred world your hating this and these mother fuckers



is stupid and just PCness gone crazy unless they've actually wronged you?



I presume the same goes for child molesters, rapists, Hitler and....?

What a snap shot into a sad and sick little individual's mind.

Have you ever heard someone from the kkk speak? Uneducated and ignorant, You should feel sorry for them....and if you don't, go ahead and stoop to their level and hate them....that makes you the same as them.


Each case is different and should be treated as such. When it's not, you get your type of thinking, with rash generalizations, which is no different than racism. Hatred and racism are taught.


edit-MeatPuppet killed it. Most excellent post.

[Blurred]

I'll only buy it if it applies both to the victims of past trauma and those who do something that offends and throw up every defense imaginable when they get called on it. Otherwise it is simply justification for people who were never targets of racism to decide now what isn't racist and to tell the people who are targets of racism how they are supposed to feel and to tell them to get over it. And that is what has been happening on this thread.

In a just society, it isn't the person who tells the joke who gets to say if it is or isn't offensive. It is the people who are offended who get to express how the joke made them feel and to have their feelings respected. That's not PC. It is standing up to bullying and calling it what it is.

And I find it hilariously ironic that I was on the other side of this argument in a recent thread over on teletips where people were all upset because Andrew McLean was teasing them about telemarking. When somebody said that teasing telemarkers for telemarking is the same type of humor that Archie Bunker used on All in The Family, I called bullshit. I am not without a sense of humor and an ability to laugh at myself. But I don't believe like Carlos Mencia does that everything is fair game. I draw the line at characteristics about a person that are inate and not chosen behaviors. Again, that isn't PC to me.

You're a fucking dipshit.

99% of the time, humor IS SOMEONE ELSES MISFORTUNE.
(in your case, the jokes on you....and your parents)

[telepariah]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's so funny I peed my pants.

Not.

Yes, 99% of humor is at somebody elses expense. But there is making fun of people for the stupid things they do and then there is making fun of people for who they were born. The former is funny and the latter is just malicious. It doesn't take much effort to be malicious but one has to be at least a little bit perceptive and clever to be funny. Compare Richard Pryor and Carlos Mencia. People think Carlos Mencia is breaking taboos and shit, but Pryor did it much better with brilliant subtlety and long before. Mencia is a poseur compared to Pryor.

And with that, I hope I can resist the urge to jump into this stupid argument going forward. Have a lovely day.

[MacDaddy]

I get SOOOOO fucking tired of this PC fucking bullshit.

It's ok to talk kindly about murderers and killers, but you post a black dude with some watermelon and you get all bent?"...

Hmm this is weird I actually found my self agreeing with HugeAirDog" nice


There needs to be a stronger movement to FUCK and bring down the PC movement its been getting out of hand.

[Danno]

For several years I was an assistant instructor at a large kung fu school. We would periodically have women come in who had been raped, mugged, or been victims of domestic violence.

You have to have a pseudo realistic attack if you ever want to learn how to shut down a real attacker, so some of the drills we did got pretty rough. We were always very conscientious when first introducing these women to the more physical drills, as they were prone to flash backs.

You could tell immediatly when when the drill was getting to them; they would begin to lose coordination, their movements were less fluid, tension began to creep into their body. If the drill were allowed to continue, they would have been in danger of a full blown emotional hijacking.

We never let it get to that point. Whenever I saw the first signs of distress I would stop the drill and ask them if they wanted to take a break. Many times the first thing they would say is "why?". In the first stages of a panic attack, the person is normally unaware of what is happening with their emotions. Their consious mind is slowly being pushed out of the drivers seat and the trauma induced reaction patterns are taking over. As the weeks and (sadly sometimes) months went by, you could see them slowly become more aware of their own emotions and begin to retrain themselves so that, eventually, those reaction patterns would remain burried and not something they would have to constantly fight.

We, as a society, are just beginning to retrain ourselves. We went through a traumatic event. The civil rights movement was good and necessary and we are better for it. But our challenge now is to learn to tell the difference between a racist issue and an issue involveing race. Far too many times we see a picture, or hear a joke, that has a racial component(it might even contain a racial stereotype) and our knee jerk reaction is to start flameing the person for being a racist. At one time, in our recent past, that was healthy. It no longer is.

We will be far healthier(and richer), as a society, when we learn to treat racial issues more intelligently and stop letting the trauma-induced reaction patterns from out past dictate our behavior. That's not to say we shouldn't react strongly to real racism when we run across it, we should. But we have to be able to tell the difference between what is and is not racism. Right now, we are having a difficult time doing that.[/diatribe]

great fucking post.

I'll only buy it if it applies both to the victims of past trauma and those who do something that offends and throw up every defense imaginable when they get called on it. Otherwise it is simply justification for people who were never targets of racism to decide now what isn't racist and to tell the people who are targets of racism how they are supposed to feel and to tell them to get over it. And that is what has been happening on this thread.

In a just society, it isn't the person who tells the joke who gets to say if it is or isn't offensive. It is the people who are offended who get to express how the joke made them feel and to have their feelings respected. That's not PC. It is standing up to bullying and calling it what it is.

And I find it hilariously ironic that I was on the other side of this argument in a recent thread over on teletips where people were all upset because Andrew McLean was teasing them about telemarking. When somebody said that teasing telemarkers for telemarking is the same type of humor that Archie Bunker used on All in The Family, I called bullshit. I am not without a sense of humor and an ability to laugh at myself. But I don't believe like Carlos Mencia does that everything is fair game. I draw the line at characteristics about a person that are inate and not chosen behaviors. Again, that isn't PC to me.

and a great addendum/response to that post.

[Tippster]

Please tell me that you think only white people can be racist. PLEASE. I need the laugh.

[GoldMember]

Only white, middle-aged men can be rascist. Didn't your wife teach you anything?