Utah Interconnect Tunnel?!?

**Tippster** · 10-19-2006, 09:27 PM

A Monorail would be really fucking sweet tho... a Mag-Lev even better.

**cj001f** · 10-19-2006, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

a Mag-Lev even better.

Given recent events you'd get your danger fix before you ever arrived.

**Ski Monkey** · 10-19-2006, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by release

Perhaps it is a strategy to start with the excessive and unrealistic (tunnels) so that a compromise (lifts or gondolas) is easier to achieve when the opposition kicks in.

I've been thinking that as well.

**cololi** · 10-20-2006, 01:06 PM

Yep, others have hit it. this is simply to make a lift system seem more feasible and "a better option". I personally would rather see a mass transit system that would go up the canyons and through the tunnels. Limit the cars to residents and shuttle providers and everyone else rides the bus/train/brt/etc.

**Tippster** · 10-20-2006, 01:12 PM

I really wish you people would stop shitting on my MagLev idea. oh wait - Cololi didn't.

**iceman** · 10-20-2006, 01:19 PM

If you shit on a MagLev track would the turd just float there in the air?

**Ski Monkey** · 10-20-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

I really wish you people would stop shitting on my MagLev idea. oh wait - Cololi didn't.

I think it's a great idea. I keep trying to get yentna to push a monorail at the planning meetings here in Park City that goes from I-80 to the 3 resorts. She seems skeptical for some reason.

**iceman** · 10-20-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ski Monkey

I think it's a great idea. I keep trying to get yentna to push a monorail at the planning meetings here in Park City that goes from I-80 to the 3 resorts. She seems skeptical for some reason.

Maybe she saw what happened with the monorail in Springfield.

**cj001f** · 10-20-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Maybe she saw what happened with the monorail in Springfield.

If it were a German Maglev they wouldn't have had those... oh, wait, nevermind.

**iceman** · 10-20-2006, 01:26 PM

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**lemon boy** · 10-20-2006, 01:29 PM

I have already provided my valuable negative feedback to the the office of der governator.

**cololi** · 10-20-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ski Monkey

I think it's a great idea. I keep trying to get yentna to push a monorail at the planning meetings here in Park City that goes from I-80 to the 3 resorts. She seems skeptical for some reason.

It is not feasible. There is not the ridership to justify it at this point nor does it pull enough private vehicels off the road to make a justifiable impact. It would be fairly cheap to build given the width of the roadway to the resorts. A mass transit system that connected to existing transit and originated in areas with lots of people would be viable. Particularly if the tourism people actually think that UT will eventually see 6 million skier days per season.

The system in the Cottonwoods would serve a very vital function that has a huge impact on the metropolitan area, and that is water quality and watershed protection. Without a bunch of private participation though the project is not that feasible and until it gets onto some sort of long range transporation plan, forget about any sort of federal funds. A rail system would cost at least double what the roadway tunnel would be.

**Jer** · 10-30-2006, 03:52 PM

Governor & carpetbagger in duck and cover mode.

In his unsolicited memo, [Goldman Sachs & Co. vice president] Holt says a $250 million tunnel between Big and Little Cottonwood canyons will be on the agenda, plus another $150 million tunnel or year-round road over Guardsman pass between Brighton and Park City ski areas.
...
"Those talking points did not come out of our office," Huntsman's deputy chief of staff, Michael Mower, said Tuesday.

He said nobody at the governor's office was familiar with Holt or his memo, and that Huntsman scheduled the Nov. 3 meeting at the request of Sen. Carlene Walker, R-Cottonwood Heights.

"You don't put talking points for the governor out there," Mower said of the document, first reported by the Web site telemarktips.com. "We do our own talking points."

Holt declined to comment Tuesday.

http://www.casperstartribune.net/art...0a0072434b.txt

**Ski Monkey** · 10-30-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by cololi

It is not feasible. There is not the ridership to justify it at this point nor does it pull enough private vehicels off the road to make a justifiable impact. It would be fairly cheap to build given the width of the roadway to the resorts. A mass transit system that connected to existing transit and originated in areas with lots of people would be viable. Particularly if the tourism people actually think that UT will eventually see 6 million skier days per season.

pssst, i was joking.

I only bring it up with yentna because she's a planner and I like pushing random things. She didn't like my Mountain Needle a la Space Needle idea either.

**Jer** · 11-04-2006, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

I thought the main problem with building lifts is the agreement with SOC not to do any more construction on the ridges...

It's not an agreement with SOC. They're not that agreeable. :P
It's a combination of County zoning ordinances and USFS visual goals. And SOC's willingness to raise hell about more lifts crisscrossing the Wasatch. Or tunnels running through it.

Anyway, the meeting happened. Nothing was decided. Whatsisname from Goldman-Sachs said he'd rather see a couple of rail lines up BCC & LCC - but the price tag is too high to consider seriously.

Some players who basically hold vetos are opposed. Oddly, some key players didn't even show up; not sure what that means.

**P_McPoser** · 11-04-2006, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by StroupSkier

I can think of 333,333,333 million reasons why not to:

That is a HUGE cost over estimate

**cj001f** · 11-04-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by P_McPoser

That is a HUGE cost over estimate

Private industry won't be footing the bill

**Jer** · 11-04-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by P_McPoser

That is a HUGE cost over estimate

Not if Stroup's reasons are a dime per fifty thousand.

**Dirty Hoar** · 11-04-2006, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by cj001f

Private industry won't be footing the bill

They just might be willing to now that they discovered that kimberlite pipe up there just below Guardsmans over by the girl scout camp.

**ak_powder_monkey** · 11-04-2006, 09:52 PM

and people thought our "bridges to nowhere" were stupid

**Ski Monkey** · 11-05-2006, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by MonkeyMan

They just might be willing to now that they discovered that kimberlite pipe up there just below Guardsmans over by the girl scout camp.

When was that?

**Bring On The Snow** · 11-05-2006, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

If you shit on a MagLev track would the turd just float there in the air?

only if u were eating lots of iron

**P_McPoser** · 11-05-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by MonkeyMan

They just might be willing to now that they discovered that kimberlite pipe up there just below Guardsmans over by the girl scout camp.

Care to elaborate on that?

**Dirty Hoar** · 11-06-2006, 11:08 PM

Well you see... I was buying an engagement ring so naturally I met up with my regular guy at the usual place... the Reams parking lot.
He's the one that told me.
Man, I got a killer deal on this hudge diamond. Anyway, he's all stoked because his daughters a girl scout and is going to get cut in on the loot. He's thinking about starting up a heli-ops company in the Wasatch.

Nobody bit... or did they? Fess up if you researched it? Witherspoon?

**Chitown Pow** · 11-06-2006, 11:20 PM

a tunnel worked for Snowbird, so why wouldn't they try the same here. I think it would cut down on canyon traffic if they ran buses from PC. Alta can't get tracked any faster and Solitude might get lift lines.