The Hallucinogenics Thread

[iceman]

as an fyi to any and all idiots....THIS:

is not one of the mushrooms you should eat for its hallucinogenic (sp?) properties.

rut row...

[kidwoo]

as an fyi to any and all idiots....THIS:
is not one of the mushrooms you should eat for its hallucinogenic (sp?) properties.

Actually it's a fly agaric

http://peyote.com/jonstef/flyagaric.htm

Which IS a goo goo variety.

BUT as far as I know it's a south american thing so you're right in that if anyone in north america finds something that looks like that.....don't eat it.

[kidwoo]

all of it

haha....

There was actually some seriousness in that question.

I do know some club kids who really have destroyed themselves with it but that's with like 3-4 normal doses several times a week...........and with the accompanying lifestyle that I'm sure isn't exactly a non-contributing factor.

Used in moderation that stuff does nothing to cause brain damage.......other than thinking that ugly fat chick looks nice and soft and should be licked.

[lemon boy]

interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_Agaric

I'll look it up again when I get home, these have always in my mind been under the poisonous category. (they're everywhere)

[bryanthebold]

Well shit...now that we are on this topic...

Went down to capital reef this past weekend to stay at a yurt that my family owns right outside the park. It's on the east side of the park off the notom road, so really, nothing is around. We ended up being stuck in the yurt for more than a day due to huge amounts of rain. We woke up on Saturday to clear skies and each took 2 hits of LSD (there was 6 of us). We wandered our way down to this strange rock where there was not a sight of society (besides our portable river toilet ).

It's pretty hard to explain the whole experience, but the whole day was utterly amazing. We had two drums and a didgeridoo, and plenty of food and water. The only human thing we saw was an airplane which I bought to the ground with the didgeridoo. I ran for more than a mile, practically sprinting, jumping over rocks, running up hills, all the way acrossed this expanse of land we were on. The whole landscape just blew everyone away, we had capital reef for one view, the Henry mountains for another, and spider mesa (i think?). I have never seen the desert look the way it had that day, and it truly made me love that land. As bizarre as the land may have been...The music could shape the landscape and we concluded that the entire landscape is now tuned to a C#. So much more happened, but its all just so hard to say...

Anyways...Whole thing didn't change my life at all. I had a wonderful time, and it was an experience I will never forget, but change my prospective on life? Not really. It was just an experience...one that could never happen without LSD. I had insights, but they were not all the significant. Even at that, I came away from that day with the best feeling, like I had the greatest time, and I did. It was not much more than that, just a great time.

You can't even imagine the way the world can be when looking at it on LSD. And in a way, I think its something almost everyone could absolutely enjoy. I even got my girlfriend to do it, and I didn't think that was going to go over well at all. Basically it was all planned out, with the perfect setting, group of friends, and time. Do all these things and you can set yourself up for quite the experience, which may or may not change your life.

[Dr. Gaper]

Well shit...now that we are on this topic...

The music could shape the landscape and we concluded that the entire landscape is now tuned to a C#.

Could you tune it to something easier to improvise in next time? Maybe a C or G? Thanks.

[kidwoo]

interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_Agaric

I'll look it up again when I get home, these have always in my mind been under the poisonous category. (they're everywhere)

I think you're right...there are a bunch that look like that that ARE poisonous. Like I said, the goods as far as I know don't grow up here. There's a lot to identifying a shroom....spore print, bruising color, region found in. There are lots of stories of people out there wrecking themselves, sometimes fataly by eating what they thought was a fly agaric. That's one of the ones I've never sought out for that very reason. The psylocybin cubensis that grow up here are a lot easier to ID.

[brutah]

I have gone through some pretty intense self-examinations while ripped, and sometimes i will go completly inside my own body or another object(like a TV) and completly lose contact with my physical body. Its a very cool experience.

Sounds more like a burn-out more than anything.

I don't know about you but sitting around on a couch while "i" am in a TV really isn't that much fun.

[mc_roon]

...We had two drums and a didgeridoo...

wow. you know, now that you mention it i have always wanted to take lsd and play the didgeridoo...what are you - aboriginie?

[A-wreck]

I like eating acid and going to tijuana.
Smoking DMT in alley's is fun too.

[Dantheman]

Scare tactics and coercion by the government:


"Scientists at Johns Hopkins University who last year published a frightening and controversial report suggesting that a single evening's use of the illicit drug ecstasy could cause permanent brain damage and Parkinson's disease are retracting their research in its entirety, saying the drug they used in their experiments was not ecstasy after all.

The largest and best-controlled study of the effect of MDMA on serotonin showed no long-term effects in former users and minimal to no effects in current users," he said."

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/...te_recant.html

Yup, ABC did a great piece a few years ago called "Ecstasy Rising" that basically concluded that the Gov't propaganda machine is wrong and the ecstasy "problem" is largely one of the DEA's own making. It's something I've been wanting to try for awhile (not at a rave or anything, just out in some cool natural place like most of my other tripping experiences) and if I could get pharmaceutical MDMA I would do it in a second, but you just never know what's in the shit you buy on the streets.

Also, unless you have a degree in mycology I would STRONGLY reccommend against picking your own shrooms.

[4matic]

Yup, ABC did a great piece a few years ago called "Ecstasy Rising" that basically concluded that the Gov't propaganda machine is wrong and the ecstasy "problem" is largely one of the DEA's own making. It's something I've been wanting to try for awhile (not at a rave or anything, just out in some cool natural place like most of my other tripping experiences) and if I could get pharmaceutical MDMA I would do it in a second, but you just never know what's in the shit you buy on the streets.

Also, unless you have a degree in mycology I would STRONGLY reccommend against picking your own shrooms.

MDMA is like "Acid Lite". Not as intense with a predictable duration.

[kidwoo]

MDMA is like "Acid Lite". Not as intense with a predictable duration.

......but with a very predictable effect.....unlike acid


E is one directional. You could go anywhere from slitting your wrists to proposing to a sidewalk on acid. I don't think the two are similar at all.

[Dantheman]

......but with a very predictable effect.....unlike acid

Or shrooms. Take too many and/or in the wrong physical/mental setting and you can quickly find the darkness.

[kidwoo]

Or shrooms. Take too many and/or in the wrong physical/mental setting and you can quickly find the darkness.

Couldn't find the light switch?



That's a good point though. I never understood people who think that lsd/scrooms/mescaline are fun/party etc drugs. There's a whole other world to those things you better be ready for.

[Buzzworthy]

There are only a handful of people I would want to trip with and 2 of em are in this thread. They get it.

[Hutch]

Good thread (mostly). I've done a lot of shrooms, acid and x. not for years, with the exception of a small dose of shrooms once a couple years ago.

As I've gotten older, and taken on more responsibilities, I've enjoyed tripping less. The depressing come down just isn't worth the insight to me anymore.

If I was being honest with myself maybe I'd say that's because by taking on these responsibilities I have not been true to my inner self, who apparently only comes out to play when invited by my ingestion of psilocybin, LSD or MDMA.

I think it is hard to generalize about what kind of experience "people" have when they take certain drugs - it has to be an individual experience.

I will say that the end of my blind acceptance of organized religion coincided exactly with my first acid trip. I felt that there was something out there, but it was different that I'd been taught. More primal.

[RootSkier]

Yeah, I agree. Tripping just isn't as much fun after you have a mortgage.

[benDover]

anybody ever try the candy flip...(acid + MDNA)

[kidwoo]

anybody ever try the candy flip...(acid + MDNA)

No.........

.......never



Take the e first. Wait 20min or so then go nuts with the lsd (unless it's liquid, then wait till your ugly roomate starts to look sexy). That's the failsafe mood setter.

[hev]

Regarding Salvia, it's fucking weird. Worthy of an experiment but it's not really fun. Most of the other stuff mentioned can be a blast with the right mind set and safe atmosphere. I am unsure about the introspection argument going on. I think I would have came to many of the same realizations without the experiences, but who knows. I sure had fun.

[Blurred]

Kidwoo, you make a good argument, and that's cool. Guess I'd still do the shit if I could still enjoy it.

Salvia seems interesting, but there really isn't one positive thing said about it in this thread. We experience it when we die?? Great.

[kidwoo]

Salvia seems interesting, but there really isn't one positive thing said about it in this thread. We experience it when we die?? Great.

DMT is the birth/death micro excretion, not salvia.

Like I said before, I think whatever's in salvia is what's released when you get a blinding concussion. I've only done it once and I'm okay with that.

[Blurred]

DMT is the birth/death micro excretion, not salvia.

Like I said before, I think whatever's in salvia is what's released when you get a blinding concussion. I've only done it once and I'm okay with that.

Have you tried the DMT? I guess I have a morbid curiosity with it.

[kidwoo]

Have you tried the DMT? I guess I have a morbid curiosity with it.

Read the thread son.