Chavez is crazy

[MeatPuppet]

Perhaps look up what communist means before you throw it arround

Would you prefer Marxist? Maybe Chomskyist?

edit: then look up dictator

LOL, ok you are right I got a little ahead of myself. I'm working on my prophet skills. I guess we will have to wait until he looses an election to find out for sure. I'm betting he doesn't leave, even if he is voted out. Until then, I mispoke.

[MeatPuppet]

You've described every Latin American regime - except they were take from rich and give to cronies making new group of rich.

It's not like the continent has a history of stability and prosperity with any flavor of government, or the rich in any of the countries obtained their wealth by hard work in a free market.

Unfortunately true.

[Cono Este]

When the Asian economies slump, it will be another bullet in that clown Chavez.

If he gave a crap about his people, he should have shut his mouth, saved his idealogical bable for his dog, and pumped as much 75 dollar oil as he could.

His production levels actually dropped while he was driving out the evil westerners, forcing him to buy Russian oil to fullfill his contracts. Moron.

[skiflorida]

Would you prefer Marxist? Maybe Chomskyist?

maybe still a bit ahead of yourself, don't go throwing idealists in with social critics. do a little reading before you spew

[Tippster]

Unfortunately true.

Suriname's been pretty fucking stable!!!

Chaves is crazy. Really fucking loony crazy. In a way I like him because of it, but unfortunately he is leading a new faux Robin Hood movement in South America - look at his fartcatcher in Bolivia.

The poor are actually worse off now than they were before he took power.

[Jer]

The poor are actually worse off now than they were before he took power.

Umm, you might wanna check that perticlar fact.

[skiflorida]

Chaves is crazy. Really fucking loony crazy. In a way I like him because of it, but unfortunately he is leading a new faux Robin Hood movement in South America - look at his fartcatcher in Bolivia

not just s.america, the world. he seems to be one of the emerging leaders of the coalition of the UNWILLING. in my opinion it is refreshing to see a leader take the global stage with something other then complacency or greed as their talkingpoint. especially so in a nation that has ample natural resources.

[skiflorida]

Chaves is crazy. Really fucking loony crazy. In a way I like him because of it, but unfortunately he is leading a new faux Robin Hood movement in South America - look at his fartcatcher in Bolivia

not just s.america, the world. he seems to be one of the emerging leaders of the coalition of the UNWILLING. in my opinion it is refreshing to see a leader take the global stage with something other then complacency or greed as their talkingpoint. especially so in a nation that has ample natural resources.

[rideit]

hmm, I don't know shit about S.A. politics, so maybe I'll keep it shut for a moment, while others spew on.

Where is Venezuela?

[cj001f]

Where is Venezuela?

there's no pisco there, don't worry.

oh, and Peruvian pisco does suck. It's like the Chilean stuff... but more expensive.

As for the 'fartcatcher' - he's the more logical one.

[rideit]

your avatars aren't 'core'.

And Chilean Pisco is for felch-flavoristas!


(Blech!!!)


Evo Morales....the pinnacle of populism, just not in as dangerous of a situation as Fujimori. At least Toledo was toothless....

[cj001f]

And Chilean Pisco is for felch-flavoristas!

No, just shitty cheap mixed drinks.

went to some Barranco bar that had Pisco streching back 50 years (and the dust on the bottles to prove it). Better than Chilean... but Havana Club slays all pisco.

btw: WTF do people ever reccomend Miraflores?

[rideit]

Are you kidding?

MiraFlores Rocks! You just need to know where to go/what to do. It has changed dramatically in the last four years...safer, and more off the hook. Barranco is my favorite, but man, a febuary weekend night in Playa Asia (Km 100s) will BLOW YOUR DOORS OFF.

No Shit.

(I do love the Pisco, but a Havana Club reserve....mmmmm.)

[cj001f]

Are you kidding?

MiraFlores Rocks! You just need to know where to go/what to do. It has changed dramatically in the last four years...safer, and more off the hook. Barranco is my favorite, but man, a febuary weekend night in Playa Asia (Km 100s) will BLOW YOUR DOORS OFF.

No Shit.

(I do love the Pisco, but a Havana Club reserve....mmmmm.)

hmm, I'll take directions. Nightlife I can see, maybe.... restaraunt wise it sucks balls in that we need to copy the Norte Americano and have crappy expensive chain way - or at least the pearls are carefully hidden from my gringo ass. Barranco they are in the open.

And yes Havana Club is

ever thought of doing portions of Huayhuash on Mountain bike?

[rideit]

I have done portions in the region...what are you doing in April?
(that is where I am probably doing my next tour....)

Restaurant wise....oh ,man, I can't believe you say that. I have friends who own a number of places in MiraFlores, Barranco, and San Isidro...
Google La Gloria, Arugula, Asti Y Gaston,http://www.astridygaston.com/ oh man...and lots in Larco Mar, good gawd, GREAT food. Come down again, I can show you an unbelievable array of the best in the world. Truly. And as to the Pisco, the 'best' is pretty much private reserve stuff. The exceptional product, (like much of the finest in Peru) is only available by invite only....but such is the reality of this stratified economic culture.

[MeatPuppet]

maybe still a bit ahead of yourself, don't go throwing idealists in with social critics. do a little reading before you spew

It would appear someone has been doing some reading.





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[MeatPuppet]

Umm, you might wanna check that perticlar fact.

Yeah, I think the poor are better off today than they were 10 years ago. You always eat well the night you kill the golden goose, but tomorrow you starve.

[cj001f]

I have done portions in the region...what are you doing in April?
(that is where I am probably doing my next tour....)

Nice! April is alps, prolly.... and I've been to Huayhuash, so somewhere else is on the list down south.

I just skimmed the surface of Lima - and Barranco had much better surface strata, but I imagine things are better underneath.

[skiflorida]

chomsky does not preach an idealology, simply a critizism to one. the idea by chavez to align himself with the american anti-neocon movement is not anything more then an effort to draw support from within the country he persceives to be exerting a modernized version of the monroe doctrine on s.america. think what you will. just be as willing to question the sources of your "information" as those who question it. btm chomsky is known internationally as a linguist, not a politition or pholisopher

[skiflorida]

as for the golden goose idea; oil will not be "dead" for at least a few decades, althoug it will become extremely more rare (despite this weeks price drops) those who keep the goose alive have the most to benifit. do not doubt that this is at the head of chaves' thoughts

[MeatPuppet]

chomsky does not preach an idealology, simply a critizism to one. the idea by chavez to align himself with the american anti-neocon movement is not anything more then an effort to draw support from within the country he persceives to be exerting a modernized version of the monroe doctrine on s.america. think what you will. just be as willing to question the sources of your "information" as those who question it. btm chomsky is known internationally as a linguist, not a politition or pholisopher

I agree, on all points...except that Chomsky is known as a linguist in academic circles, and a very well respected one at that. But outside the world of academia he is known for his political thoughts. I'll admit, I haven't read any of his political/social books. But I am beginning to think I need to pick a few of them up just to be culturally literate. He seems to be popping up more frequently in recent days.


Edit: Oil was not the goose I was referring to.

[skiflorida]

I'll admit, I haven't read any of his political/social books

than you haven't read ANY of his books. i agree that chomskys' ideas seem to be more relevant then ever but his current observations are just as revolutionary as those that are currently being "realized" by the general public. it would do us all some good to create a distance from the corporate nature of our society and may just provide our salvation

[Ripzalot]

this can't be helping the democrats any...

[ruhiks]

http://www.chomsky.info/index.htm

[Ripzalot]

September 21, 2006
GOP Funds Ahmadinejad-Chavez Speaking Tour
by Scott Ott

(2006-09-21) — The Republican National Committee (RNC) today offered to fund a coast-to-coast U.S. speaking tour featuring Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, in the weeks leading up to November’s Congressional elections.

The offer comes in the wake of two days of public remarks by the two foreign leaders before the United Nations, the Council on Foreign Relations and U.S. news media. Their diplomatic pronouncements included…
– denying the Holocaust,
– calling the U.S. president “the devil“,
– praying at the U.N. for the return of Islam’s fabled 12th Imam,
– praising Cuban dictator Fidel Castro,
– insisting any nation has the right to develop nuclear technology,
– portraying the United States as the locus of evil in the modern world, and
– plugging Noam Chomsky’s book “Hegemony or Survival: America’s Quest for Global Dominance.”

“President Bush can talk about his national security plan and foreign policy all day long,” said an unnamed RNC spokesman, “But no one makes a more compelling case than the duo of Mahmoud and Hugo. We want to make sure every American has an opportunity to hear these important world leaders.”

The Republican source said sponsoring the pre-election Ahmadinejad-Chavez speaking tour was also a way of “reaching across the aisle to help our colleagues in the Democrat party to get their message out, so the American voter can make an informed decision.”

classic. LOL