another krypton question

[nick > jesus]

ok, so, i got some krypton cross boots over the Internet, they fit me perfectly, how ever, they are considerably too soft. what should i do?

I know that i need to try to get some black tongues to replace the grey ones, but is there any thing more i can do to stiffen then up?

They are never used and i am considering selling them (see gear swap)

[ulty_guy]

look at the manual an the other pieces that came with them. you can stiffen up quite a few things with those plastic widgets thrown into the spine of the boot. the other tongues are quite a bit stiffer (contact dalbello i guess for those) and if you got a better liner, that would stiffen up a bit too. i've thrown an old, but not very worn pair of lange L10 liners in there and it has done wonders for stiffness.

finally, have you ever used flexons or kryptons? they ski different than normal boots. the flex will get progressively stiffer as you lay into them. the plastic will also be stiffer at 20 degrees than the 80 degrees when you tried them on.

[nick > jesus]

sounds good, thanks alot for the help, have never used them before, was trying to figure out how to et those little wedge things in, so guess i will keep trying to get them, and i think a know place in CO that has the replacement tounges. I also have a number of race liners that might work (though they might be too small). so it sounds like i am set

[eastvailhucker]

I have skied flexons and currently am skiing the krypton pro with the soft tounge. Do your crosses feel soft flexing forward or latererly (spelling) side to side? Are you indoors where its warm flexing the boot?

I'm not saying its the stiffest boot like a race durometer type of plastic but it is perfect for doing just about anything.

agreed about dropping the plastic tabs to play with the stiffness.

I would suggest going to see Dano Bruno at Christy Sports in Beaver Creek. He is seriously the master of dialing this boot in. He has parts, tounges, etc.

Good Luck

[seanpistol]

sounds good, thanks alot for the help, have never used them before, was trying to figure out how to et those little wedge things in, so guess i will keep trying to get them, and i think a know place in CO that has the replacement tounges. I also have a number of race liners that might work (though they might be too small). so it sounds like i am set

the spoilers go in the back of the boot with the liner out. i believe when they're slid furthest down, it's the stiffest.

if the shop you know of doesn't carry replacement tounges on hand, they should be able to order a pair through the local rep.

[Mudfoot]

The tongues have a progressive flex, and right out of the box the boots do not have the forward lean shims in, so they are straight up and feel soft. Put in the big shims on the outside of the back of the boots and and then put the corresponding gizmo inside the back of the cuff at the top (stiffest) position. If you still think they are too soft then you need the the black tongues.

[nick > jesus]

in response to the question;

They feel too soft for-aft wise, but then again i am normally in race boots, but did not want to ware a boot 4 sizes small for free skiing

and yes, i am indoors when i have tried them on.

From what i have been told there is a dalbello rep at the alpenglow shop in golden so i figure i will swing by there on Friday to see what he thinks

thanks for all the help

[Toby]

mntlion made a post yesterday IIRC about stiffening Flexons by putting a couple of rivets or T-nuts in the shell (?). Pretty sure he knows his stuff when it comes to boots so either search for his post or ask him?

[Flexon Phil]

Do you need the rear shims? If so, i have some.

Ski the boot before you decide its too soft. I thik you will be surprised.

[Mudfoot]

The Kryptons have something I have never seen in another boot that makes them very soft out of the box, but that is not how they are meant to be skied. The split in the back of the lower shell allows it to close or open when the boot is flexed in any direction giving it a lot of flex and softness. This can be controlled or eliminated by whether or not and where you insert the gizmos in the slot. The boots come with two sets of shims and two sets of slot gizmos and you need to use the ones that match each other. I believe Phil has his set up as soft as possible. I use the slot gizmos in their stiffest position (all the way down, contrary to what I said above), but use the softer grey tongue.

I think that unfortunately a lot of people may try them on in the store without the shims (which preload the progressively stiffer tongues) and gizmos inserted and blow them off as being too soft. This is too bad because besides their sweet flex the Krypts let you customize the way they ski, and they can easily be adjusted to be a fairly stiff boot.