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    Farmers Almanac Outlook?

    Anybody seen the farmers almanac outlook for this winter yet? Or any other reputable outlooks for that matter? Googled it but couldn't really come up with much other than some north east stuff.

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    the almanac predicted the big CO blizzard of 03
    ‎Preserving farness, nearness presences nearness in nearing that farness

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    Acording to my personal theory - The Law of Averages - I'd say we're in for a dry spell. Hopefully just in the fall. Two months ago was way behind average on YTD precip & now we are ahead (Frickin rain). Course on the other hand with the extended drought down your way ('cept 2 winters ago) we're long over due.
    Ullr, Bring it! to the Southern Rockies!

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    The Farmers Almanac predicted a colder and snowier than average winter for the North East last year. I dont think 50 degrees and raining in mid January meets that prediction.

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    man last year in the central mountains of CO was great, i hope that happens again, lovelands snow pack was super high by December
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm11
    Anybody seen the farmers almanac outlook for this winter yet? Or any other reputable outlooks for that matter? Googled it but couldn't really come up with much other than some north east stuff.
    What did you get on the North East? I got this forum which makes the North East winter sound good. But I'm not sure how they are getting to that conclusion with all that weather person talk.
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    I go by the wooly bear caterpillar. Haven't seen one yet this summer though.



    Narrow brown stripe=pow
    Thick brown stripe=not so much pow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milton
    I go by the wooly bear caterpillar. Haven't seen one yet this summer though.



    Narrow brown stripe=pow
    Thick brown stripe=not so much pow.
    I hope thats not true I think I saw a all black one the other day.
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    That means overhead pow all winter!
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    dr. schreiner predicts a snowy east coast for the upcoming winter. the old man's funny bone is tickling and he tore his hamstrings. the only other summer plagued by so many injuries for the old doctor resulted in unprecedented snow and the infamous blizzard of '94.

    further, after analyzing the nymph hatches, larvae under rocks and the unusual rainbow activity in the willowemac; the good doctor has issued an all out bulletin for the northeast soldiers to be ready for a lot of snow.

    but, be warned, he has been wrong before, resulting in multiples stonings. fortunately i know where he lives so we can stone him or just get stoned with him.

    thank you good doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick > jesus
    man last year in the central mountains of CO was great, i hope that happens again, lovelands snow pack was super high by December
    March and April = ghey though
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    PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR LONG-LEAD SEASONAL OUTLOOKS
    NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
    830 AM EDT THU AUG 17 2006

    SUMMARY OF THE OUTLOOK FOR NON-TECHNICAL USERS

    THE MAIN FACTORS WHICH USUALLY INFLUENCE SEASONAL CLIMATE INCLUDE
    1) EL NINO AND LA NINA - WHICH TOGETHER MAKE UP EL NINO/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION OR
    ENSO
    2) TRENDS - APPROXIMATED BY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOST RECENT 10-YEAR MEAN
    OF TEMPERATURE OR 15-YEAR MEAN OF PRECIPITATION FOR A GIVEN LOCATION AND TIME
    OF YEAR AND THE 30-YEAR CLIMATOLOGY PERIOD (CURRENTLY 1971-2000)
    3) TROPICAL 30-60-DAY OSCILLATION- WHICH MAY AFFECT CLIMATE VARIABILITY WITHIN
    A SEASON
    4) THE NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION (NAO) AND THE PACIFIC NORTH AMERICAN (PNA)
    PATTERNS
    5) PERSISTENTLY DRY OR WET SOILS IN THE SUMMER AND SNOW AND ICE COVER ANOMALIES
    IN THE WINTER.
    6) AN OBJECTIVE CONSOLIDATION (CALLED CON IN THE TEXT) OF THE OCN, CCA, SMLR
    AND CFS FORECASTS IS USED AS A FIRST-GUESS IN PREPARING THE FORECAST MAPS.

    SST ANOMALIES ACROSS MOST OF THE EQUATORIAL PACIFIC CURRENTLY RANGE FROM
    SLIGHTLY WARMER THAN NORMAL TO NEAR NORMAL... INDICATING PRIMARILY ENSO NEUTRAL
    CONDITIONS. MOST PREDICTION TOOLS INDICATE THAT SST ANOMALIES WILL BE NEAR OR
    SOMEWHAT ABOVE +0.5 DEG CENTIGRADE IN THE ENSO-SENSITIVE REGIONS OF THE PACIFIC
    ... SUGGESTING THAT NEUTRAL OR WEAK WARM EVENT CONDITIONS COULD HAVE SOME
    IMPACT ON UNITED STATES CLIMATE IN THIS SERIES OF OUTLOOKS.
    UNTIL WE GET A
    MORE DEFINITIVE IDEA OF THE LIKELIHOOD AND INTENSITY OF A WARM EVENT IN THE
    NEXT FEW MONTHS... WE HAVE ELECTED TO CLOSELY FOLLOW THE CONSOLIDATION FORECAST
    WHICH CALLS FOR DRIER THAN MEDIAN PRECIPITATION OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES
    DURING THE CORE OF THE UPCOMING COLD SEASON ...NAMELY NDJ 2006 - DJF 2006 - AND
    JFM 2007. HISTORICAL COMPOSITES OF WEAK WARM EPISODE CONDITIONS ALSO TEND TO
    FAVOR BELOW MEDIAN AMOUNTS OF PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST FOR THE THREE
    SEASONS JUST MENTIONED. ONGOING ASSESSMENTS OF THE GLOBAL CLIMATE SYSTEM MAY
    REQUIRE US TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE UPCOMING WINTER TEMPERATURE AND
    PRECIPITATION FORECASTS AS THE STATE AND MAGNITUDE OF ENSO BECOMES MORE CLEAR.

    THE TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK FOR SEP-OCT-NOV (SON) 2006 CALLS FOR WARMER THAN NORMAL
    CONDITIONS OVER MOST OF THE U.S. WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. ABOVE NORMAL
    TEMPERATURES ARE ALSO EXPECTED ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES - NEW ENGLAND AND THE
    FLORIDA PENINSULA AS WELL AS THE EASTERN HALF OF ALASKAS SOUTHERN COASTLINE.
    ELSEWHERE THERE ARE EQUAL CHANCES OF WARMER-THAN... COOLER-THAN... OR NEAR-
    NORMAL TEMPERATURES DURING SON.

    THE PRECIPITATION OUTLOOK FOR SEP-OCT-NOV (SON) 2006 CALLS FOR BELOW MEDIAN
    PRECIPITATION IN MUCH OF THE MIDWEST... AND THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE FIRST IS
    DUE MAINLY TO TRENDS... WHILE THE LATTER IS INDICATED BY A NUMBER OF TOOLS.
    THE CHANCES FOR ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION ARE ENHANCED OVER FLORIDA DUE TO
    LONG TERM TRENDS AND THE EXPECTATION OF AN ACTIVE ATLANTIC HURRICANE SEASON.
    HOWEVER ... IT SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED THAT THIS PRECIPITATION OUTLOOK SHOULD NOT
    BE USED TO INFER CHANGES IN HURRICANE STRIKE PROBABILITIES. ABOVE MEDIAN
    PRECIPITATION IS ALSO PREDICTED OVER MUCH OF THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS WHICH IS
    HEAVILY FAVORED BY THE CONSOLIDATION TOOL.

    BASIS AND SUMMARY OF THE CURRENT LONG-LEAD OUTLOOK
    NOTE: FOR GRAPHICAL DISPLAYS OF THE FORECAST TOOLS DISCUSSED BELOW SEE:
    HTTP://WWW.CPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/PRODUCT...TOOLS/BRIEFING

    CURRENT ATMOSPHERIC AND OCEANIC CONDITIONS

    SSTS ALONG THE EQUATOR IN THE PACIFIC ARE MOSTLY NEAR OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE +0.5
    DEG C OF NORMAL. THE SSTS IN THE NINO 3.4 REGION... A CRITICAL INDICATOR FOR
    THE ENSO STATE... CURRENTLY AVERAGE ABOUT 0.4 DEG C ABOVE NORMAL. THE LOW
    LEVEL EASTERLY WINDS (AT 850 MB) IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC AVERAGED SOMEWHAT
    WEAKER THAN NORMAL DURING THE MONTH OF JULY...WHILE THE SOI INDEX WAS NEGATIVE
    FOR THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE MONTH. THESE INDICATORS SUGGEST THAT ENSO IS STILL
    IN A NEUTRAL PHASE BUT APPEARS TO BE SLOWLY TRENDING TOWARD A WEAK WARM EVENT.
    THE UPPER OCEAN HEAT CONTENT IN THE EQUATORIAL PACIFIC HAS INCREASED MARKEDLY
    IN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS ... AND IS NOW NOTICEABLY ABOVE THE LONG TERM AVERAGE.
    MADDEN-JULIAN OSCILLATION (MJO) ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO BE WEAK OVER THE TROPICAL
    PACIFIC.


    PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION OF SST FORECASTS

    A CONSOLIDATION OF NCEP SST MODELS PREDICTS THAT NINO 3.4 SSTS WILL MOST LIKELY
    PEAK NEAR OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE +0.5 DEG C.
    THERE IS MODERATE SPREAD AMONG MODEL
    SOLUTIONS FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS... INDICATING SOME UNCERTAINTY IN THE
    FORECAST. MODEL SPREAD DOES INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY DURING THE SPRING AND
    SUMMER OF 2007. MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE CHANCES THAT THE NINO 3.4 SSTS WILL
    EXCEED THE 0.5 DEGREE C THRESHOLD FOR MINIMAL EL NINO RELATED IMPACTS PEAK
    AROUND 47 PERCENT IN OND 2006 ... DIMINISHING TO AROUND 40 PERCENT IN BOREAL
    WINTER (DJF 2006/7)...AND DROPPING OFF RAPIDLY THEREAFTER. THE PREDICTED
    CHANCES FOR LA NINA CONDITIONS ARE NEGLIGIBLE. THE ENSO PHASE IS EXPECTED TO
    RANGE FROM NEUTRAL TO WEAK WARM CONDITIONS WHICH WILL LIKELY PREVAIL THROUGHOUT
    THIS UPCOMING COLD SEASON.

    PROGNOSTIC TOOLS USED FOR U.S. TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION OUTLOOKS

    THE OUTLOOK FOR SON 2006 THROUGH SON 2007 IS BASED ON THE CFS... THE
    MULTI-MODEL ENSEMBLE FROM IRI... AND THE CDC-CCA RENDERING OF THE MOST LIKELY
    CONSENSUS FORECAST OF SEVERAL DYNAMICAL MODEL FORECASTS... AS WELL AS CCA...
    ECCA... SMLR... AND OCN. FORECASTS PRIMARILY REFLECT THE CONSOLIDATED
    TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION PRODUCTS (A SKILL-WEIGHTED OBJECTIVE BLEND OF
    CFS... CCA... SMLR... AND OCN)...WITH CONSIDERATION OF A POTENTIAL COLD SEASON
    WEAK EL NINO. THE OUTLOOKS FOR MAM 2007 THROUGH SON 2007 ARE BASED LARGELY ON A
    CONSOLIDATION OF CCA... SMLR... AND OCN (CFS IS NOT AVAILABLE AFTER LEAD 6). A
    STATISTICAL FORECAST TOOL BASED ON ANTECEDENT SOIL MOISTURE CONDITIONS (CAS)
    HAD MODEST INFLUENCE ON THE LEAD 1 OUTLOOK FOR SON 2006.


    PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION OF OUTLOOKS - SON 2006 TO SON 2007

    TEMPERATURE:

    TEMPERATURE PROBABILITIES FOR SON 2006 ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE ISSUED LAST MONTH
    WITH SLIGHTLY EXPANDED COVERAGE OF ABOVE NORMAL MEAN TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE
    NORTHWEST U.S....AND THE INTRODUCTION OF WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR
    THE PANHANDLE OF ALASKA. MOST OF THE TOOLS SUPPORT THESE AREAS OF RELATIVE
    WARMTH. THE AREAS WITH ELEVATED PROBABILITIES FOR WARMTH (40% OR GREATER)
    INCLUDE NEW ENGLAND - THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS - SOUTH FLORIDA - AND THE DESERT
    SOUTHWEST. THE OUTLOOKS FOR OND 2006 THROUGH FMA 2007 ARE BASED MAINLY ON THE
    CONSOLIDATION TOOL WHICH GENERALLY FAVORS WARMTH... THOUGH TEMPERED SLIGHTLY BY
    THE POSSIBILITY OF WEAK WARM EPISODE CONDITIONS THIS WINTER. OUTLOOKS FOR MAM
    2007 AND BEYOND ARE BASED PRIMARILY ON THE CONSOLIDATION TOOL (THE CFS
    COMPONENT DROPS OUT AFTER LEAD 6) WHICH IS ALMOST ENTIRELY A REFLECTION OF
    TEMPERATURE TRENDS.

    PRECIPITATION:

    BELOW MEDIAN PRECIPITATION IS INDICATED ACROSS MUCH OF THE MIDWEST FOR SON 2006
    DUE TO RECENT TRENDS. ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION FOR FLORIDA FOR LEAD 1 IS
    FROM LONG TERM TRENDS AND AN ANTICIPATED ACTIVE ATLANTIC HURRICANE SEASON. FOR
    THE UPCOMING BOREAL WINTER THE MAIN CHALLENGE WILL BE ASSESSING THE LIKELIHOOD
    AND STRENGTH OF A WARM EVENT AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON (PRIMARILY) THE LOWER
    48 STATES. DURING WINTER (DJF 2006/7)... THERE IS FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG
    THE TOOLS FAVORING AN AREA OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION CENTERED OVER THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND RELATIVE DRYNESS ACROSS BOTH THE NORTHWESTERN AND
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S.. THE REMAINING OUTLOOKS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED ONLY SLIGHTLY
    FROM THOSE ISSUED FOR CORRESPONDING SEASONS LAST MONTH.

    NOTE - AREAS OF UNCERTAINTY THAT FORMERLY WERE LABELED CL (CLIMATOLOGICAL
    PROBABILITIES) ARE NOW LABELED EC (EQUAL CHANCES).

    FORECASTER: ANTHONY ARTUSA

    STARTING WITH THE SEASONAL OUTLOOK RELEASED IN FEBRUARY, 2006, THE GLOSSARY OF
    TERMS WILL NO LONGER APPEAR WITH THIS MESSAGE.
    INSTEAD, TERMS THAT ARE IN THE GLOSSARY WILL BE LINKED TO THEIR DEFINITION.

    FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE STANDARD FORECAST TOOLS - THEIR SKILL - AND THE
    FORECAST FORMAT PLEASE SEE OUR WEB PAGE AT
    HTTP://WWW.CPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/PRODUCT...0DAY/DISC.HTML
    (USE LOWER CASE LETTERS)

    INFORMATION ON THE FORMULATION AND SKILL OF THE CAS FORECASTS MAY BE FOUND AT:
    HTTP://WWW.CPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/SOILMST/FORECASTS.HTML (USE LOWERCASE LETTERS)

    NOTES - THESE CLIMATE OUTLOOKS ARE INTENDED FOR USE PRIOR TO THE START OF
    THEIR VALID PERIOD. WITHIN ANY GIVEN VALID PERIOD OBSERVATIONS AND SHORT
    AND MEDIUM RANGE FORECASTS SHOULD BE CONSULTED.

    THIS SET OF OUTLOOKS WILL BE SUPERSEDED BY THE ISSUANCE OF THE NEW SET NEXT
    MONTH ON THU SEP 21 2006.

    1971-2000 BASE PERIOD MEANS WERE IMPLEMENTED EFFECTIVE WITH THE MAY 17, 2001
    FORECAST RELEASE
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    Here's more gibberish:

    http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/predictions/90day/

    With pretty maps for the illiterate.
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    And here's the one we want to see for CO in Feb-Mar-Apr 2007 (this is precip)



    (green is good)
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    If ^ that holds true, then this could be the year I get back to Taos...
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    Taos, when they have snow, was my fav ski area. It r00ls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milton
    I go by the wooly bear caterpillar. Haven't seen one yet this summer though.



    Narrow brown stripe=pow
    Thick brown stripe=not so much pow.
    Same here, have'nt seen one as of yet.
    The last three winters (on the EC) they were right on!
    If this years wooly bear resembles any thing like the past three years....I'm gonna stomp it into the ground!
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    very technical. Dunno about the Almanac. They're funny - sometimes they're deadon but mostly I think it's luck. Anyone heard from Roemer yet this year? Here's to hoping the past southern storm track crap in NE moves up a little this year - I'm tired of clearing out snow at 5AM only to drive 3 hours north and find they got none


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    ahem.


    It's gonna be goooooooooooood.
    I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones.

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    yayyyyy!!!

    oauef;oasdi;asdiofj!!!!!!!!!!

    bldjalsdkfja;lsdkfj;a!!!!!!!

    fuck yah!

    That FMA '07 just came out two days ago, that's the first I've seen w/ the Above av's for NM!!

    Jah knows we deserve it!

    fuk yah!!!!

    but, on a serious note:

    i'd stay away from taos. you wouldn't like it. it's not for folks like you. it's no good, at all, so just go to wolf creek or angel fire or somthing. There is absolutely no fancy plaid steezesuits and hardly anyone hits the park, so you probably would like it.
    almost no one's on bromodels, no one has pennies glued to their skis and no one knows what a 'maggot' is. so, if I were you, I'd go to wolf creek. they get better snow, anyway.

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    If taos gets nailed I'm going, i wanna compete there if a comp is there this year.
    Always charging it in honor of Flyin' Ryan Hawks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaholic
    If taos gets nailed I'm going, i wanna compete there if a comp is there this year.


    didn't you read what I said? it's not for folks like you.

    go for it, huck your meat and double up Bamboo nose. you might take home the fat purse! sickkkkk brrooo!

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    Settle down and let me make you a early-morning drink. Altah has a good a shot as anyone I saw there at the last comp. Those fuckers got real lucky; the conditions were perfect for that comp. Anything different and there would'a been carnage, as you already know. 80ft+ into those chutes, perfect conditions. Hope to make some SW turns with ya this winter.

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    The conditions for the last comp were unreal. I was just giving Altah I hard time.

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    Just out (at least on bloomberg news) Old Farmer's Almanac Predicts Colder Winter for US. Predicting -8% vs average and more snow

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