Adding new ski - Kingswood or Explosiv

[BCR]

I know...another stupid quiver question from a relative newb...indulge me if you will, though...

Which addition fills a greater gap in my ski selection at this point...

here's what I'm on now:

186cm Spats w/914's (deep days on resort) - 125mm
179cm Bros w/Freerides (this years softs hopefully being delivered soon! -touring/on resort pow ski) - 99mm
170cm T-Rocks w/Freerides (eastern tight trees/lightweight/sketchy snow touring - on resort trees and all mountain) - 87mm
200cm Rossi 7XK's w/900's (Eastern GS)
168cm Volkl 5 Stars w/you know what's (no snow out East carving - medium radius) - 65mm

Also have a couple of tele setups, but mostly resortish, so no need to go through them.

I am on the East coast, but spend at least 3 weeks a year in search of better snow in Europe, out west, SA, NZ, etc...and <when there's snow out here> ski about 40 or so BC days in New England. I am 155lbs, 5'7" and can hold my own on skis, not a rockstar mind you, but good enough.

Here's my dilemna: I am going to NZ in a couple of weeks and may order a pair of Kingswoods and pick them up when I'm there. I was thinking of the skinnys (86mm waist) in a 185 for an Eastern all-mountain/Western on-piste everyday ski mounted up with the 912's I have kicking around. OR, I was thinking that I could use a pair of crud-busters like Explosivs in a 180. If I go with Kingswoods, that would mean I am planning on using the Bros for the deep stuff into chop into crud and switch to the Kwoods after it gets completely cut up...

I usually bring my T-Rocks and a powder ski with me when I travel (last year it was the Mantras, which were promptly stolen). Now I figure I would bring the bros and Kingswoods when I hit the road - an alpine midfat and fat(ter) AT sticks (maybe the Spats if it was going to dump). If I go the Explosiv route, I would be bringing Bros, Explosivs, and a skinnier everyday ski with me or the Spats if there's dumping in the forecast...not likely. And honestly, there's not a huge need for crud busters on resort on the EC - realistically, even in a good storm it goes from pow to groomed in half a day flat... I could make do with a 95mm waist if there was no snow, but I am leaning towards the Kwood route.

Thoughts...?

Man am I stoked to be skiing in 2 weeks so I can stop overanalyzing my shit. That and spending money I don't have...

[leroy jenkins]

I'm not sure how you ski or anything, but just by the looks of your quiver, it seems like you have a lot of overlap in the shorter skinny/midfat department. You've got the super deep days covered with the spats, and have carving/crappy snow/touring more than covered. If that were my quiver, I would be wanting a big fat ass stiff charging ski. Something for the deep days when you'll be going to fast for the spats.

[pechelman]

If you can heres what I say you do.

Upgrade the soft bros to stiff ones before theyre delivered.
This will handle anything the exploders can, but at a lighter weight.

Depending on how much you like the T-Rocks
Get a 185 skinny normal stiffness.
Their midfat and fat skis are attractive as well.
Seems like youll end up with a bit of overlap with either of the skis you buy.

Also Im not exactly sure what you want out of this next ski since it is overlapping so much. Theyre also two completely different types of skis.
It sounds like you might just be buying for the sake of buying without a real need, but having said that, if you're already in NZ, buy some KWs.

[AKA]

if you cant find the right ski in that group you have problems.

[BCR]

I'm not sure how you ski or anything, but just by the looks of your quiver, it seems like you have a lot of overlap in the shorter skinny/midfat department. You've got the super deep days covered with the spats, and have carving/crappy snow/touring more than covered. If that were my quiver, I would be wanting a big fat ass stiff charging ski. Something for the deep days when you'll be going to fast for the spats.

Right now that is the Bros for me...and when I go away, I can only bring so many skis with me - generally I bring a bigger AT mounted ski - if there's snow it works out fine, and if not I can use it to find some off the hill...

Ideally to round things out I would get 2 pairs - a longer midfat for non-BC charging out East and a fatter alpine-mounted ski for out west and special days here... Maybe I'll do both: Kwoods and the last pair of mntlion's 180cm explosivs...

Depending on how much you like the T-Rocks
Get a 185 skinny normal stiffness.

I love the T-Rocks, but wish they were longer except when in tight trees or on a long tour when trading length for weight savings.

Their midfat and fat skis are attractive as well.

I know, but I rarely need anything fatter on-resort out East. And when travelling, I can only take so many skis so I know I will end up with the Bros in my ski bag instead of alpine fats because they can serve the purpose of fat skis and touring skis...

Also Im not exactly sure what you want out of this next ski since it is overlapping so much. Theyre also two completely different types of skis.
It sounds like you might just be buying for the sake of buying without a real need, but having said that, if you're already in NZ, buy some KWs.

if you cant find the right ski in that group you have problems.

I am completely content with what I have now...I guess I just started to look for a reason to add something from the Kingswood lineup since I can damnit! And I know that they are 2 different skis entirely, I was just debating on which direction to go to round things out.

Thanks for the advice...keep it coming if anyone has a different take.

[Evmo]

If you have the explosiv on the brain, take a look at the Stockli DP, perhaps in a 184 (though they ski pretty long). They actually hold an edge well enough to ski hardpack, but are solid for big dumps both out east and for charging out west. They are 94 under foot, I freaking love them. Super stiff under foot, with a little play in the tip to pick you up in the soft stuff..

[justcuz]

If you have the explosiv on the brain, take a look at the Stockli DP, perhaps in a 184 (though they ski pretty long). They actually hold an edge well enough to ski hardpack, but are solid for big dumps both out east and for charging out west. They are 94 under foot, I freaking love them. Super stiff under foot, with a little play in the tip to pick you up in the soft stuff..

Ditto......kinda. I used to have the 186DP's, got rid of them because I feel the bros are more versatile. Now own 188 bros.

[Evmo]

Ditto......kinda. I used to have the 186DP's, got rid of them because I feel the bros are more versatile. Now own 188 bros.

Yeah, definitely a little less versatile, however I think the newer ones (the silver ones) are a little moreso than previous models.

[XtrPickels]

Bro's/ sploders are complete overlap... the only reason would be to mount the sploders alpine and only tour in the bro's... which cuts down their use dramatically.

The skinnies would be a prime time ski more often for you. You really don't need anything over 90 on an east coast day. They extra sidecut will make them fun/carvy on the hardpack and 86 in the waist really isn't that skinny.

[BCR]

Bro's/ sploders are complete overlap... the only reason would be to mount the sploders alpine and only tour in the bro's... which cuts down their use dramatically.

The skinnies would be a prime time ski more often for you. You really don't need anything over 90 on an east coast day. They extra sidecut will make them fun/carvy on the hardpack and 86 in the waist really isn't that skinny.

That's more like what I was thinking. Obviouly the 179 soft Bros aren't quite an Explosiv, but they can serve the same purpose unless I'm trying to break a land speed record (which I am rarely doing anyway). Yeah, the KWood skinnies in an extra stiff flex would be the primetime ski I am looking for out east and a nice complement for lack of fresh snow out West - plus they're 185's (yeah, I know they ski a little shorter because of the twin) which is more the length I'm looking for over my 170 T Rocks which I have been using currently for that purpose. That'll save me from constantly beating on my AT binders too... Consider the trigger pulled if they can make them by the time I get there. Emailing now... Now hmmm...black/white top sheets or dark green/grey...

[stuckathuntermtn]

where do i find BC in the east?!

[jerr]

Have you thought about the KW super fats? I bumped into a crew on TC (Wanaka, NZ) last week who were riding fatapussies in 10-15cm of cut up pow, pretty light, and loving it. The KW super fats are a similar shape and size (not sure about stiffness). I'm also not sure about the cross over potential with spats because I've never riden them but from what I hear if the conditions are bottoming out (not much pow and cut up) their magic don't work to well.

On the spats note I wouldn't bother bringing them to NZ as you's mentioned you might. On-field gets tracked pretty fast and a more versatile fat ski would be of a lot more benefit. The bro with an AT set up sounds like a definite starter though. Have fun.

[XtrPickels]

where do i find BC in the east?!

you don't find it, it finds you