Photo Radar Speeding Ticket - Oregon

[Adolf Allerbush]

I got home last night from a hard day at the office only to be greated by a speeding ticket from Oregon's finest, and a photo radar one at that. I feel like this is cheating by the cops. Sure I was speeding, 44 in a 35...but still. Has anyone had success fighting these in Oregon or elsewhere?

Some beta: The photos are blury and it is impossible to tell who is driving. The ticket is for $125.

Search of forums revealed this thread http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ht=Photo+Radar
however it is about running red lights and is not applicable to Oregon.

Thanks in advance.

[Rasputin]

I guess so many Californians moved to Oregon that it is becoming California. I lived in Oregon up through the 90's and was SO glad that it wasn't like California with the photo ticket crackdown.

Good luck fighting it.

[Hutch]

can you post up the photo? That will help us brainstorm your way out of this.

[Adolf Allerbush]

Certainly, I will scan it when I get home. Probably opening myself up to some serious Photoshop alterations, but I have no fear.

[Below Zero]

Go out right now, and buy a radar detector. Don't ask questions, just do it. You won't regret it!

[Tippster]

All they need to see is your license plate. if you are the owner of that car, you're responsible for the fine, since all drivers of that vehicle do so with your permission. AFAIK the only way out of one of these tickets id to prove your car had been stolen, and the only way to do that is to have a police report dated prior to that picture.

Pay the money and slow down in that section of road. At least it's no points on your license.

[nealric]

I second the radar dedector.

A good one is $200- and it will probably save you twice that in tickets if you drive like me

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

Let me know if you need any help writing an apology letter to your local P.D.

[hutash]

There are probably tons of radar detector threads, but there are only two worth considering, Passport and Valentine. I prefer the passport.

[iceman]

Let me know if you need any help writing an apology letter to your local P.D.

bwa............

[stuckathuntermtn]

isn't 44 in a 35 in the "9 miles and hour over" rule? that is SUCH bullshit. I hope they don't get those here. In NJ(the shittiest state ever) they time you going through the tolls with EZpass and if the time is too low, you get a ticket. though I am rarely in NJ, i will now never get an EZPass.

[Big Blue]

All they need to see is your license plate. if you are the owner of that car, you're responsible for the fine, since all drivers of that vehicle do so with your permission.

This doesn't make any sense to me. You're telling me if someone borrowed my car, ran down a pedestrian, and then returned it to me without telling me about what happened I'd be responsible because it was my car? I don't think that shit would really fly in court. Then again I'm not a lawyer, maybe our legal system really is that fucked up.

[glademaster]

44 in a 35 isn't speeding, at least not around here. You have to be at least 10-12 mph over the limit for cops to even bat an eye in NJ, and it seems like most of NY too. That bites big time though, maybe that would explain that paranoid kid in Cali with a radar detector in his sports car who refused to drive more than 5mph over the limit.

[cj001f]

This doesn't make any sense to me. You're telling me if someone borrowed my car, ran down a pedestrian, and then returned it to me without telling me about what happened I'd be responsible because it was my car? I don't think that shit would really fly in court. Then again I'm not a lawyer, maybe our legal system really is that fucked up.

In my experience you can narc on someone driving your car = they get the fine, or you can pay it yourself. Given the ratio of cars to people, not a bad assumption.

You got nailed dead to rights. Sack up and take your medicine like a man (and BSS gets a +10 for a sense of humour re his predicament)

[nealric]

There are probably tons of radar detector threads, but there are only two worth considering, Passport and Valentine. I prefer the passport.
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Beltronics=escort

the highest end beltronics is the same internally as the passport and can be found for $50 less.

[Tippster]

This doesn't make any sense to me. You're telling me if someone borrowed my car, ran down a pedestrian, and then returned it to me without telling me about what happened I'd be responsible because it was my car? I don't think that shit would really fly in court. Then again I'm not a lawyer, maybe our legal system really is that fucked up.

It gets better - a buddy of mine is one of the DA's in Washington Couty, MD. He had a case where a dude borrowed his friend's car and used it to haul a shitload of Crack from a main distrubutor to several smaller dealers. He was busted for distribution, and the guy whose car was used got nailed for aiding and abetting. Lesson learned: don't lend your car to a sketchy friend. Ever.

stuckathuntermtn: I regularly drive an average of 80mph in a 65mph limit zone on the Jersey Turnpike from the Delaware Bridge to exit 4 (about 35 miles) non-stop every other weekend. I've used EZPass for the last 8 years and have NEVER gotten a ticket in the mail, so I think that may be an Urban Legend/Internet BS.

[zion zig zag]

All they need to see is your license plate. if you are the owner of that car, you're responsible for the fine, since all drivers of that vehicle do so with your permission. AFAIK the only way out of one of these tickets id to prove your car had been stolen, and the only way to do that is to have a police report dated prior to that picture.

Pay the money and slow down in that section of road. At least it's no points on your license.

No non no, fuck this casr don't speed, peopel speed, if i borrow somebody car and go speed and get caught by the cops i get the ticket they don't go to my firend s house and give him the tickrt, it shouldnt be any fuckin different because of the camera shit. and why no points on the liscences? right there theu are admitting that its fucked up if you get caught by a rael cop you fuckin points on your licesne. just don't ever pay it ibet they wont even come after youy theyll probably threaten you with bad credit or some shit anfd then you can what cradit motherfucker? i didnt fuckin sign for shit i dint get extende no line of credit . id go to the motherfuckin supreme fuckin courts and spnd 1million dollars in legal fees and then move to switerland and fucking laugh at cameras. i going to get a sign on the back of my truck that says photo this and it will have a picture of my ass on it and then ill fucin run lights all day and speed like hell and when oi get pulled over by a real cop ill bee like cool whats the fine ill glasdly pay it and thank the cops for doing a good job of getting crazy mofos of the street but when they take my picture ill be all like ahhaahahah fuck that im from switzerland and stuff ha.

[nesta]

photo radar is so lame. and 44 in a 35 zone for $125? , lame x 2. it might rile them up a bit, but why don't you mail them a photo of 2 fifties, a twenty and a five? it won't get you any further ahead, but the satisfaction of playing tit for tat is probably worth it. Good luck, and slow down!

[Tippster]

No non no, fuck this casr don't speed, peopel speed, if i borrow somebody car and go speed and get caught by the cops i get the ticket they don't go to my firend s house and give him the tickrt, it shouldnt be any fuckin different because of the camera shit. and why no points on the liscences? right there theu are admitting that its fucked up if you get caught by a rael cop you fuckin points on your licesne. just don't ever pay it ibet they wont even come after youy theyll probably threaten you with bad credit or some shit anfd then you can what cradit motherfucker? i didnt fuckin sign for shit i dint get extende no line of credit . id go to the motherfuckin supreme fuckin courts and spnd 1million dollars in legal fees and then move to switerland and fucking laugh at cameras. i going to get a sign on the back of my truck that says photo this and it will have a picture of my ass on it and then ill fucin run lights all day and speed like hell and when oi get pulled over by a real cop ill bee like cool whats the fine ill glasdly pay it and thank the cops for doing a good job of getting crazy mofos of the street but when they take my picture ill be all like ahhaahahah fuck that im from switzerland and stuff ha.

You were this drunk^^^^ AT NOON.

[s.p.c]

friend got a photo ticket in the mail. opened it up and he was all sitting up near the edge of his seat with a big smile on his face smoking a cigarette.

awesome.

[stuckathuntermtn]

yeah, well 80 on the highway in NJ seems pretty standard.

[daPig]

These are illegal in the Peoples Republic of Maryland, not sure about Oregon.

specterguard

[Danno]

All they need to see is your license plate. if you are the owner of that car, you're responsible for the fine, since all drivers of that vehicle do so with your permission. AFAIK the only way out of one of these tickets id to prove your car had been stolen, and the only way to do that is to have a police report dated prior to that picture.

Incorrect, as far as I am aware. flykdog may have been drunk, but he was right when he said cars don't speed, people speed. They presume it was you driving if they can id the plate, but you don't have to show the car was stolen to get out of it. cj001f had it right, you can just rat someone else out.

However, fighting the ticket would put the OP in a difficult situation, even if the pic of the driver is too blurry to ID. Because to go to court to fight this, he'd probably have to a) lie and say it wasn't him, and b) say who it was (or come up with some other excuse for not knowing).

It sucks to get nailed for 9 over, but people are right, pay the ticket and move on (but within the limit this time ).

[Pow4Brains]

My boss fought one in Boulder and won. You couldn't make out the driver, he said it wasn't him and stuck to it.

[huck4bucks]

If the letter wasn't sent registered mail, you can say you never recieved it. Of course, you'll have to deal with a bench warrant the next time you're pulled over. Viva la resistance!!