JHMR keeps rates the same

[upallnight]

Just saw that they published pricing for the '06-'07 season.

I figured they would raise rates to pay for the construction of the new tram, then raise them further when the new tram was complete for offering "improved services"...

I was wrong: They kept prices virtually untouched.

[Squatch]

do you know if they still do discounted 17-25 pricing?

[schindlerpiste]

Same price, less immediate access. Sounds like a good deal! I predict that when the new tram is up and running, it will cost ......
one milllion dollars for a day pass (or at least $100)

[upallnight]

Same price, less immediate access. Sounds like a good deal!

A few years back, a cable company in the town where I lived raised their rates because they "needed to upgrade their infrastructure to accommodate a digital signal and offer improved service."

Fine. They raised rates so as to get more money to invest in their business.

When they finished the project, they again raised rates because "we now offer improved service."

I was expecting that same sort of thing to happen. At least they're not raising rates before AND after.

[upallnight]

do you know if they still do discounted 17-25 pricing?

There's a junior deal, but I somehow doubt it extends from ages 17-25.

(My personal opinion is that it shouldn't apply for 18 & up...but I guess I can see discounts for students.)

[Squatch]

There's a junior deal, but I somehow doubt it extends from ages 17-25.

(My personal opinion is that it shouldn't apply for 18 & up...but I guess I can see discounts for students.)

it was for day passes. and i really liked that deal, because that is by far the biggest per-day expense. without it i wouldn't go there.

[Dug]

No college passes. That's harsh.

[Rasputin]

No college passes. That's harsh.

Yeah, college students having to pony up as if they were adults, harsh.

[kush1]

Yeah, college students having to pony up as if they were adults, harsh.

i think it is, mommy and daddy didnt shell out for my school.....
this is going to be a shock to the system, $300 for my pass last year......ouch

[upallnight]

Yeah, college students having to pony up as if they were adults, harsh.

yeah...having to pay for a 'luxury' item is rough.

seriously, though, how would a college student be out here skiing on a season pass with no colleges in the immediate area?

taking a year or semester off? if so, why can't they do what most other seasonal folks around here do...work for their pass?

[upallnight]

i think it is, mommy and daddy didnt shell out for my school.....

point taken. i paid for my education, too. are you still in school, though?

as much as we feel it's a necessity, it's hard to make a claim that skiing is not a luxury...

[gforce]

All prices not exactly the same.

20 day pass went from $785.00 last year to $825.00 this year. Hopefully less people this year with last tram hype gone = more pow.

[Dug]

Driving is a luxury but we all complain about gas prices.

Lowering prices might mean more gapers but I'm willing to stomach it if I can get more buddies to ski with me and hopefully pass along the infection.

[upallnight]

All prices not exactly the same.

20 day pass went from $785.00 last year to $825.00 this year. Hopefully less people this year with last tram hype gone = more pow.

the full pass price went up by $5.00 to $1,595.00.

more hiking = more pow, methinks.

if it snows, they will come.

[upallnight]

Driving is a luxury but we all complain about gas prices.

...and we all complain about the cost of war in the middle east, too.

Lowering prices might mean more gapers but I'm willing to stomach it if I can get more buddies to ski with me and hopefully pass along the infection.

i hear you...and i'd love lower prices, but i think that everyone should pay the same right if you are all 'adults'.

it's different in other parts of the country, but we really don't have any colleges here (well, maybe the journey school), so the ">18 but still a student" thing doesn't work so well here. if you're here and that age, you are pretty much skiing and have time to work for a pass (and maybe taking a year off from school).

much different scenario in a place where there are many schools. it is more conceivable that one is a full-time student in the washington area and still skiing part time (hence, you could use a break on the pass cost).

[upallnight]

Anyone know what a "lifetime" pass at JHMR goes for??

[Dug]

Yeah, I hadn't realized that the JH area had a lack for schools. The original remark was an offhand one anyway.

[rideit]

Anyone know what a "lifetime" pass at JHMR goes for??

I am pretty sure they are real estate/investor related...maybe a few floating on the open market. That, or get stuck on a chairlift 'by accident' overnight, in a place where it is clearly a stoner liftie's fault. Keep it quiet, and viola...lifetime pass.

Or maybe a finger in Jack Wilson's chili. Bonus if it is actually Jack Wilson's finger.

[upallnight]

I am pretty sure they are real estate/investor related...maybe a few floating on the open market. That, or get stuck on a chairlift 'by accident' overnight, in a place where it is clearly a stoner liftie's fault. Keep it quiet, and viola...lifetime pass.

Or maybe a finger in Jack Wilson's chili. Bonus if it is actually Jack Wilson's finger.

I'll keep my fingers crossed and make sure that I ride w/ a down jacket in my pack. (or carry a ziploc bag w/ a body part into nick wilson's...)

[rideit]

Nick, Jack, the finger won't care.
Good luck with that.

[upallnight]

Nick, Jack, the finger won't care.
Good luck with that.

will post a full TR if either comes to fruition.

the "if you buy your pass before the start of the season you will be entered to win a 40-day pass" is kind of weird. i guess the fact that it is transferable is key.

[Rasputin]

Well I suppose I was being a bit harsh on the college kids, but hey, I was pretty drunk last night. I do get sick (living in a college town) of seeing college students get big discounts on everything, and then hear them whine when there''s something they actually have to pay full price for.

Of course, when I was in college I thought the world should revolve around the sacred college students' needs and wants, but now that I am no longer a student I feel perfectly justified at flicking shit on the concept that students somehow DESERVE special deals. They don't, they are given them because business owners want what little disposable income students have, and the lower prices are an effort to entice the full range of student incomes before they run out of money and leave town to go back to their parent's house.

Rant over.

[Squatch]

It sounds kind of socialist, but for places with college passes or other cheap discounts, pricing at what people can afford makes a lot of sense. Since resorts are mostly fixed-cost enterprises, getting the maximum number of people to the slopes is the goal. Vail has it right: offer a cheap season pass option, sell it to people who only go once or twice, and reap the income.

JH's situation is different, but I wonder how many more season passes they would sell if they had cheaper passes?

[upallnight]

JH's situation is different, but I wonder how many more season passes they would sell if they had cheaper passes?

i think they'd have to be quite a bit cheaper.

jhmr, i think, doesn't make that much money off of passholders. as a rule, i don't think passholders are the ones spending much money while they're there. we carpool (or know the stealth spots), so there's no parking revenue. many local passholders are not the 'eat lunch at the 4 seasons' type. we're not renting rooms.

jhmr is about real estate (and summer business)...the passholders are a nice bit of income, but not worth catering to. hell, they could probably raise the rates and not really see much loss of income; the people who are going to buy passes are pretty much going to do it, regardless. sure, some folks are on-the-fence awaiting the pricing... but the committed folks who have been coming here for years will find a way to get the extra couple hundred $$.

lots of folks have hookups anyway...or they get a pass from their job...or they do the airline mafia thing...

for being a passholder last year i got 1 free lift ticket to be used in the first 2 weeks of the season, and i got a free breakfast burrito for skiing more than 100 days. great.

[Squatch]

Yeah, I see your point. Fuck, when I go to vail my "lunch" consists of tuna, the free saltine crackers, and butter and honey packets. Vail does not make shit off me (except the 4 dollars for parking).

I guess the difference is summit/vail is ideally located as for money-making. There's a large metropolitan area that just not too far as to justify frequent weekend trips, but far enough away that it's often preferable if you have the income to rely on their services (renting a condo, eating at their restaurants, etc). It makes it cheap, but also crowded as fuck.