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Thread: Time is really messed up!

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    Time is really messed up!

    Today went by so quickly it's strange and disconcerting.

    Other days the minutes lumber and plod like huge, dumb animals numbing my senses.

    Why is this? I was not inordinately busy or non-busy today. It was like, your typical day here.

    So what affects our perception of time and why is that perception so often different in the same setting?

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    Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
    You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way
    Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
    Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

    Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
    You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
    And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
    No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

    And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but its sinking
    And racing around to come up behind you again
    The sun is the same in the relative way, but youre older
    Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

    Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
    Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
    Hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way
    The time is gone, the song is over, thought Id something more to say

    Home, home again
    I like to be here when I can
    And when I come home cold and tired
    Its good to warm my bones beside the fire
    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spells.





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    every day older I get the years seem to blip by faster and faster and faster (I think it's a perspective issue, balancing against the rest of your life) but goddamn it is already the MIDDLE OF JULY! It wasn't that long ago that I was skiing and stuff was it?
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    Time is probably not constant.

    One way of looking at special relativity is that time is accelerating.

    Another wasy to look at time is that it's actually not even continuous, possibly just a set of essentially disconnected events. There's some physics research going on about this.

    They laughed at relativity too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schindlerpiste
    Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
    You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way
    Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
    Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

    Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
    You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
    And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
    No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

    And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but its sinking
    And racing around to come up behind you again
    The sun is the same in the relative way, but youre older
    Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

    Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
    Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
    Hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way
    The time is gone, the song is over, thought Id something more to say

    Home, home again
    I like to be here when I can
    And when I come home cold and tired
    Its good to warm my bones beside the fire
    Far away across the field
    The tolling of the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spells.





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    Doesn't interaction between perceptors of time - ie people - kinda throw that in the garbage, Buster? Then all of us would have a fast day, a slow day, or whatever - we wouldn't be able to be on separate loops or in our own wharps, could we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster
    Doesn't interaction between perceptors of time - ie people - kinda throw that in the garbage, Buster? Then all of us would have a fast day, a slow day, or whatever - we wouldn't be able to be on separate loops or in our own wharps, could we?
    No.
    If time is accelerating and time is continuous, there's no "outside" referent to tell us any different.

    If time is more discrete, and disjointed it's could be like traffic shuffling, where our own private time bubbles only intersect often enough to convince us that there's a continuum. You pass me, I pass you, etc, so we're basically in the same locus and we just don't know any better.
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    We already know that time is most definately not constant. The speed of light is constant, which means that neither time nor space can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr
    We already know that time is most definately not constant. The speed of light is constant, which means that neither time nor space can be.
    Relatively definately.
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    It is my firm belief that we do not truely begin to age until we have children. Until then, time unfolds slowly, exquisitely, and in abundance. With the arival of the little ones we are suddenly face to face with irrefutable evidence of the passage of time as our children grow... and just as this settles in, the demand on our suddenly fast moving time increase expontially as our childrens activities increase with age.

    On the flip side, we also get to watch the lil rippers tear it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr
    We already know that time is most definately not constant. The speed of light is constant, which means that neither time nor space can be.
    How can speed be constant and yet time not be when speed is a measure of distance over time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsquared
    How can speed be constant and yet time not be when speed is a measure of distance over time?
    If the speed you're talking about is of the mind-altering form, time can most definitely take some interesting twists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsquared
    How can speed be constant and yet time not be when speed is a measure of distance over time?
    See
    http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/th...elativity.html .

    or

    http://www.einsteinyear.org/facts/special_relativity

    or

    http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines...6/secret.html#

    If you assume the speed of light is constant, then neither time nor distance are.

    There's a really good explanation in "Special Relativity For Idiots" but I lost mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc_roon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
    Time is probably not constant.

    One way of looking at special relativity is that time is accelerating.

    Another wasy to look at time is that it's actually not even continuous, possibly just a set of essentially disconnected events. There's some physics research going on about this.

    They laughed at relativity too.
    I've firmly believed this for a long time. Too many weird time-related coincidences.

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    How do we measure time's speeding up or slowing down without an outside reference?

    Also, if The Speed of Light is constant and thusly Time and Distance are not, is the corollary that if Time or Distance are constant the Speed of light is not? How do we know which is fact and which is douchenozzling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
    There's a really good explanation in "Special Relativity For Idiots" but I lost mine.
    time to start looking your idiots cage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster
    How do we measure time's speeding up or slowing down without an outside reference?
    You don't. Use the Lorenz transformation.

    Also, if The Speed of Light is constant and thusly Time and Distance are not, is the corollary that if Time or Distance are constant the Speed of light is not?
    You can come to that conclusion.
    How do we know which is fact and which is douchenozzling?
    The douche nozzle is omnipotent. It transcends measure and sight but not smell.
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    Wake up, got another day to get through now
    Got another man to see
    Got to call him on the telephone
    Got to find a piece of paper

    Sit down, got another letter to write
    Think Ill got to get the letter just right
    Theres a ringing on the telephone
    Oh no, got to write a little later
    No such day as tomorrow, only one two three go!

    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Tickin in my head, tickin in my head, tickin in my head

    If I tell you what Im doing today
    Will you shut up and get out of my way?
    Someone asked me what the time is,
    I dont know
    Only know I gotta go now

    No time - trying to get a watch repaired
    No time - never got a thing to wear
    Hear the ringin of the telephone no no
    Hear a ringin in my head now
    No such thing as tomorrow, only one two three go!

    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Tickin in my head, tickin in my head, tickin in my head

    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Time - got the time tick-tick-tickin in my head
    Tickin in my head, tickin in my head, tickin in my head

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    That's ^ the song I got in my brain when I started reading this thread.
    Move along nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weibo
    That's ^ the song I got in my brain when I started reading this thread.
    yeah, it immediately popped into mine, and it was jarring to read the lyrics schindlerpiste posted, for some reason that didn't occur to me.

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    Time Has Come Today
    (W. Chambers/J.Chambers)

    Time has come today
    Young hearts can go their way
    Can't put it off another day
    And I don't care what the others say
    'Cause they say we don't listen anyway
    Time has come today, Hey!

    The rules have changed today, Hey!
    I have no place to stay, Hey!
    And I'm thinkin' about the subway, Hey!
    Love has gone away, Hey!
    And tears have come and gone, Hey!
    Oh my God, I have to run, Hey!
    I have no home, Hey!
    I have no home, Hey!

    Now the time has come, Time!
    There's no place to run, Time!
    Might get burned up by the sun, Time!
    Well, I've had my fun, Time!
    Well, I've been loved and put aside, Time!
    And I've been crushed by tumblin' tide, Time!
    And my soul's be psychedelicized, Time!

    Now the time has come, Time!
    There are things to realize, Time!
    Time has come today, Time!
    Time has come today, Time!

    Time!

    Now the time has come, Time!
    There are things to realize, Time!
    Time has come today, Time!
    Time has come today, Time!

    Time!


    Now the time has come, Time!
    Time has come today, Time!
    Time has come today, Yeah!
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    Questo abrigado tantamucho que canite carousel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster
    How do we measure time's speeding up or slowing down without an outside reference?

    Also, if The Speed of Light is constant and thusly Time and Distance are not, is the corollary that if Time or Distance are constant the Speed of light is not? How do we know which is fact and which is douchenozzling?

    I'm still trying to figure out when the stupid train from Topeka headed east is going to meet the train from St. Louis headed West.
    Quando paramucho mi amore de felice carathon.
    Mundo paparazzi mi amore cicce verdi parasol.
    Questo abrigado tantamucho que canite carousel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr
    We already know that time is most definately not constant. The speed of light is constant, which means that neither time nor space can be.
    However, some new thinking actually states that the speed of light may change over time...

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6092.html

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    I saw a program on TV that had a cool theory about time perception. Their theory was that the faster the heartbeat, the slower everything seems to go. FOr old people, time flies by, because they have a slower hartrate than youg people. For small kids, 10 minutes can be an eternity, and their heart beat fast all the time. Insects like flies for example, has heart that beats superfast, and they see our hand trying to slap them in slow motion and always fly away.
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