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Thread: Is it better to size up or down with fat skis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtq_99
    hmmmm....where?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Below Zero
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    yea, i hope to have my new gear by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtq_99
    If you're stuck in between sizes what do you do? I'm a little worried about ordering the wrong size because these will be my first pair of skis wider than 85cm under the foot. I'm a pretty small guy to begin with, 5'9", 150lbs.
    I'm about an inch and a half taller than you, a little lighter, and ski big daddies(193), if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powdurr
    I'm about an inch and a half taller than you, a little lighter, and ski big daddies(193), if that helps.
    damn, you're riding some bohemiths.

    i know i could ski a 183, but since i am getting a wider ski than i am used to i will step down in length just a hair. it just gives me an excuse to buy other skis that are longer at a later time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossass
    I can't believe nobody threw out the 183 Gotama yet.

    Probably the most desired production fat of the last few years, skis shorter than the length (so, more like a 177), kills pow and crud alike, best resale value, 105 underfoot (yet very lively and carvable).

    I recommend mounting ahead of the freeride line a cm or two, for even more manueverablity and the fact that the FR line is waaay far back on these.
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    You can knock 5-7 cms off a skis rated length vs. effective edge for tips. Double that on twins.
    When fats first came out, everybody sized down lengthwise, when the standard sizing calc went to square inches or cm underfoot (on the base).

    What's the rule of thumb now, bossass?

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    Dont be afraid of the uber fat. In short time 100mm (under foot) doesnt seem that fat and you'll only want more. Ive been slowly using my Big Stix 106 as an everything ski. Cant wait to bust out the FFF (118) under foot this winter.

    Length has to be your call. I would factor in your size, style and desired use for skis. I'm a small dude, and have found that I can get away with a shorter ski. And since I spend most of my time skinning, and rock scrambling it works out for me.

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    I thought I got my 999's too short. Now I am sure of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtq_99
    i have specs for line, K2, and salomon. where are some more?

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    A few things:

    1. I don't think added girth means you should have less length. Girth makes the ski slower edge to edge, something that length has no effect, and the reverse is also true, length makes the ski a bitch in bumps, regardless of the width and slower turning, regardless of the width.
    If anything, I think fatter skis should be longer than skinny skis. The narrowest ski in my quiver is also the shortest because it is what I use for crappy conditions when I won't be maching. If the snow is soft, chances are I'll be charging it, so I'll want a big gun for my pow day skis.

    2. Don't size a ski just on size. Different skis behave as if they were longer or shorter than they really are. Ski the ski, see how the lengths feel.

    3. Go big. A ski that is too short is utterly worthless, but a ski that is too long is just something to get used to and grow into, which will make you a better skier. Especially since you allready have a smaller icy day ski with the HEAds, why would you want another ski that small, but just wider?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
    A few things:

    2. Don't size a ski just on size. Different skis behave as if they were longer or shorter than they really are. Ski the ski, see how the lengths feel.
    I totally agree with this.. Go as long as you can handle, but try before buying. I've skied 195+ ski's, which handled great, but also 180 ski's, which were to stiff for me. It's all about your feel with the ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossass
    I can't believe nobody threw out the 183 Gotama yet.

    Probably the most desired production fat of the last few years, skis shorter than the length (so, more like a 177), kills pow and crud alike, best resale value, 105 underfoot (yet very lively and carvable).

    I recommend mounting ahead of the freeride line a cm or two, for even more manueverablity and the fact that the FR line is waaay far back on these.
    WORD. He would be well suited by any 180-185cm twinned beastie such as 183 Gots, 185 KW Midfats(really about 182.5cm), 183 Sugar Daddies (unnaturally light), or 182 VCTs even. Twins ski short on the crap/packed but big in the powder where it counts. 179 Prophet 100s are dope too though, I definitely wouldn't try talking you out of those bro. In fact if you like the feel of metal in skis then you'll prefer them over the rest of these(except the stiff Midfats of course which own everything even without metal).

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    Anybody who is blathering about being in between sizes but doesn't know what skis they are going to order is

    a). a nerd
    b). an attention whore
    or
    c). a pussy

    You seem to be sweating the details without first having narrowed down what you want to buy.

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    An alias for Max Gosey perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_roo
    Anybody who is blathering about being in between sizes but doesn't know what skis they are going to order is

    a). a nerd
    b). an attention whore
    or
    c). a pussy

    You seem to be sweating the details without first having narrowed down what you want to buy.

    man....building your own deck is definitely not agreeing with you...
    annnnd joist hangers are for pussys
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    I think manual labour is turning me into a douchebag.

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    I was once told (in the midwest, surprise!) that the contact point of my skis should come to my eyes. So yeah, when I buy skis they need to be a specific length. I give or take a cm, but no more. Then I just hope somebody makes a ski in that length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squatch
    I was once told (in the midwest, surprise!) that the contact point of my skis should come to my eyes. So yeah, when I buy skis they need to be a specific length. I give or take a cm, but no more. Then I just hope somebody makes a ski in that length.

    Thats odd, I've always heard they should be up to your belly button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_roo
    I think manual labour is turning me into a douchebag.

    That's why it's always better to hire a professional douchebag.





    okay fkn winky here
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