Dem. race just got more interesting

[Dexter Rutecki]

Originally posted by Dr. Gaper
Well, we should be doing more for ourselves, anyway -

Foreign aid is little more than welfare for nations -- with the same disastrous effects as domestic welfare programs.

The U.S. currently spends approximately $14 billion per year on foreign aid -- far less than most people believe, but still a substantial sum. Since the end of World War II, the United States has spent more than $400 billion on aid to other countries. But there is little evidence that any of these programs has significantly improved the lives of the people in countries receiving this aid. Instead, foreign aid has typically slowed economic development and created dependence.

Indeed, the U.S. Agency for International Development itself admits, "Only a handful of countries that started receiving U.S. assistance in the 1950s and 1960s has ever graduated from dependent status." In fact, despite massive amounts of international aid, the average annual increase in per capita GNP has declined steadily in developing nations since the 1960s, with many of the Third World's heaviest aid recipients actually suffering negative economic growth.

Tanzania provides a perfect example. Since the early 1970s, Tanzania has received more international aid per capita than any other country. Yet, the country remains the world's third-poorest nation and has had no per capita GNP growth between 1980 and 1992. During the same period, inflation averaged 25% and energy and agricultural production declined dramatically.

You want to acknowledge where you plagiarized that idiocy from, moron?

[Blurred Elevens]

Obviously Dexters' Lithium prescription has expired and he's in the depressive stage of his illness. Treat him as such. That is all.

[Mcwop]

Whew. I just got permission from France to post this link to a new Howard Dean dance hit. It is in mp3 format:

HD Dance Hit

[grrrr]

Originally posted by SledNeck
[hijack]Speakin of fags, wtf is this gay pride shit. You take it in the ass from a man and balls across the face. Now your gonna go walk around the street and tell everybody your proud cause you let someone sodomize you. WTF is wrong with that picture?[/hijack]

So, I guess you're not ready to come out of the closet then.

[tuffy109]

hahaha

i love when people are scared of fags.

[KQ]

The debate at Saint Anselm College begins at 8 p.m. ET and will be broadcast live on WMUR-TV and Fox News. Fox News' Brit Hume and ABC News' Peter Jennings will moderate. Other panelists include WMUR-TV news anchor Tom Griffith and John DiStaso, senior political reporter for The Union Leader.



Lights, camera....Smile!!! (CNN Article on Debate)

[powpig]

If anyone honestly believes that things will be any different with a Democrat in the White House, then you deserve exactly what you'll get.
The only way this country will ever get any REAL change is when we support and elect 3rd Party candidates in large enough numbers so that real issues are being discussed, not the fluff that the maintain the status quo at all costs Republicans/Democrats posture as real issues.

Vote Libertarian!

[Viva]

I'm with Powpig...voted for Nader in last election with the hope that the Greens would garner enough votes to be eligible for more Federal support this year. There needs to be more of a political free-for-all in Washington D.C. before we begin to see a preponderance of really good presidential candidates.

[SledNeck]

So, I guess you're not ready to come out of the closet then.

See this is the problem with liberals, and quere supporters. In your eyes, someone either supports fags or is a closet fag themselves, unbelievable.

I thought liberals were the champions of gray area, why so black and white with this?

[grrrr]

Originally posted by SledNeck
See this is the problem with liberals, and quere supporters. In your eyes, someone either supports fags or is a closet fag themselves, unbelievable.

I thought liberals were the champions of gray area, why so black and white with this?

Gee, are you so thick that you can't recognize a joke?

Sorry. That question is pretty obvious, isn't it.

[SledNeck]

Gee, are you so thick that you can't recognize a joke?

I caught the sarcasm.
Wasn't really directed at you, just a generalization bout what you said. I hear that statement all to often, on NPR.

Thanks tho...

[irul&ublo]

Originally posted by SledNeck
See this is the problem with liberals, and quere supporters. In your eyes, someone either supports fags or is a closet fag themselves, unbelievable.

I thought liberals were the champions of gray area, why so black and white with this?

The reason you got that response is the tone of your post. By any reasonable definition, it was an expression of bigotry and maybe crossing into unreasonable hate. Do you have any gay friends or acquaintences? Are their qualities as human beings, diminished because of their sexual practices?

Think before you speak...an expression of disdain toward a group of people based on a single characteristic (ie. gender, nationality, sexual orientation, race) shared by the group is bound to generate an angry or insulting response, and deservedly so.

That being said, it is OK to mock the French.

[tuffy109]

Originally posted by Mcwop
He actually resembles the singer of my favorite band: Clutch.

http://www.labproductions.com/clutch...4/clutch05.jpg

http://www.labproductions.com/clutch/photos/pix9/3.jpg

http://pro-rock.com/pix/live/2001-03-30/ny03.jpg

here ya go

http://www.dreamscents.com/deanys1.jpg

[SledNeck]

Think before you speak...an expression of disdain toward a group of people based on a single characteristic (ie. gender, nationality, sexual orientation, race) shared by the group is bound to generate an angry or insulting response, and deservedly so.

This is where I will open the dreaded can of worms, because sexual orientation does not belong in the same context as gender, nationality or race. You see in my opinion (as smelly as it may be), sexual orientation is a choice, gender, nationality and race are not.

Even if by some chance you are born with some desire to suck another man off, you choose to "come out" fully aware of the consequences of "coming out", thus you are subject to the consequences of your choice...

Thanks to the Hollyweird and MTV crowd its now a friggin fad to suck off men, and take it up the booty. I wonder how many of these so called "homos" will even admit they were quere 10 years from now when its not so trendy

Agree to disagree . . .

[Mcwop]

Originally posted by tuffy109
here ya go

http://www.dreamscents.com/deanys1.jpg

Nice!

[tuffy109]

Originally posted by SledNeck
you are subject to the consequences of your choice...

like, wow.

you chose to let your homophobia fly on a message board and other people don't agree with you. so, was there a point to bringing it up in the first place besides tried and true gay bashing?

[Mcwop]

I just realized this race will be interesting. Remember the Willie Horton issue first brought up by Gore. This was about the famous Massachusetts program that furloughed more than 500 murderers and sex offenders. One of the furloughs was Horton, who went on to rape and murder some folks.

Well, Kerry served as lieutenant governor under one Michael S. Dukakis. Kerry defended this very program as tough. I wonder if this one will surface?

[bagtagley]

Originally posted by powpig
If anyone honestly believes that things will be any different with a Democrat in the White House, then you deserve exactly what you'll get.

If you vote Libertarian, you deserve exactly what you get...Bush in '04.

Originally posted by Viva
I'm with Powpig...voted for Nader in last election with the hope that the Greens would garner enough votes to be eligible for more Federal support this year. There needs to be more of a political free-for-all in Washington D.C. before we begin to see a preponderance of really good presidential candidates.

I agree with you and pig to an extent, but there's a difference between poor candidates and dangerous ones. George Bush is a hazard, and I hardly see the advantage of gaining Federal Support for the Green or Libertarian parties if the tradeoff is another 4 years of Shrubery.

[KQ]

Originally posted by bagtagley
If you vote Libertarian, you deserve exactly what you get...Bush in '04.



I agree with you and pig to an extent, but there's a difference between poor candidates and dangerous ones. George Bush is a hazard, and I hardly see the advantage of gaining Federal Support for the Green or Libertarian parties if the tradeoff is another 4 years of Shrubery.

Agreed - now is not the time.

[Grange]

Originally posted by powpig
If anyone honestly believes that things will be any different with a Democrat in the White House, then you deserve exactly what you'll get.
The only way this country will ever get any REAL change is when we support and elect 3rd Party candidates in large enough numbers so that real issues are being discussed, not the fluff that the maintain the status quo at all costs Republicans/Democrats posture as real issues.

Vote Libertarian!

If Libertarian candidates are anything like the one we had running for governor in 2002 then I would rather see a Republican or Democrat running the country. We had Ed Thompson, brother of Tommy Thompson former governor and current Secretary of Health in Bush's Cabinet, run for the Libertarians.

This guy was ready to role back almost all of the environmental regs. that were passed in the last 20 years. Wetland protections, shoreland zoning, air pollution, water quality, etc. were just some of the areas he was ready to gut. Transportation was also and area he was ready to cut the budget in half (no joke). I never thought there could be a worse candidate than his brother for governor until I heard him speak.

I wouldn't mind someone from the Green Party. I liked the Green Party candidate we had run for Governor in 2002, but we have already seen what voting for them gets us, Bush.

[Viva]

Originally posted by bagtagley
... I hardly see the advantage of gaining Federal Support for the Green or Libertarian parties if the tradeoff is another 4 years of Shrubery.

Sometimes things must get worse before they can get better. Also, that was the last election and I was hoping that, with a strong Green showing, both major parties might start taking the electorate more seriously-i.e., groom better candidates.

[powpig]

Originally posted by KQ
Agreed - now is not the time.

It's my opinion that your attitude is exactly the problem. It's the "lesser of two evils" approach. For years the Dems vote for their hapless candidate cause they hate the Reps and vice versa. If you vote for Dweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum, you're just giving your stamp of approval for the status quo. If 20 years ago the voters had begun to support 3rd party candidates, maybe today we wouldn't be faced with the abysmal choices we have. If not now, when? In 4 years there'll just be another excuse.
Just my opinions.

[Zittel]

Originally posted by Mcwop
I just realized this race will be interesting. Remember the Willie Horton issue first brought up by Gore. This was about the famous Massachusetts program that furloughed more than 500 murderers and sex offenders. One of the furloughs was Horton, who went on to rape and murder some folks.

Well, Kerry served as lieutenant governor under one Michael S. Dukakis. Kerry defended this very program as tough. I wonder if this one will surface?

The Willie Horton campaign is seen historically as the low water mark in campaign mud-raking. However, seeing how Bush used telephone "push polls" and whisper campaigns in the South Carolina primary to infer that Senator McCain’s wife, Cindy, was a drug addict, that McCain might be mentally unstable from his captivity in Vietnam, and that the senator had fathered a black child with a prostitute, I wouldn't put it past this administration. Apple don't fall far from the tree. And besides, Rove is the spawn of the devil.

[Mcwop]

Originally posted by Zittel
The Willie Horton campaign is seen historically as the low water mark in campaign mud-raking. However, seeing how Bush used telephone "push polls" and whisper campaigns in the South Carolina primary to infer that Senator McCain’s wife, Cindy, was a drug addict, that McCain might be mentally unstable from his captivity in Vietnam, and that the senator had fathered a black child with a prostitute, I wouldn't put it past this administration. Apple don't fall far from the tree. And besides, Rove is the spawn of the devil.

I am talking about it surfacing in the Dem primary. That is when the story first surfaced the last time around.

Also, I don't this as mud-raking. It is legit. People have serious concerns about politicians that support/propose real programs that existed like prison furloughs.

[board]

Originally posted by board
Bush is a cocker, plain and simple.

[ Jack Black voice ] Next topic ! ! !

"cocker" ONS did you edit me ? I swear I wrote cock sucker