Dem. race just got more interesting

[bluewood_skier]

Originally posted by Blurred Elevens
Only 10 more months until the grim reality of the liberals sets in...You no longer have Congress, Senate, and definitely not the White House.....Too bad jackoff!!!!

Good thing the American people are smarter than you!! MUhahahahaaha!!!!

thank God not everyone heres a fackin democrat!!!

[tuffy109]

you don't have to be a democrat to see we have the biggest fucking moron of a president ever.

blurred is somewhere up in 13K land, and has never had a breath of air that wasn't devoid of oxygen. what's your excuse?

[grrrr]

True. I have never voted Democrat, but I will this time to try to get that corrupt politician out of office before he blows every last dime of my hard earned tax money to fleese his pal's pockets.

[Dr. Gaper]

All bipartisan rhetoric aside -

Just because you won't vote for a Republican does not mean you have to vote for a Democrat. Duh.

[grrrr]

Originally posted by Dr. Gaper
All bipartisan rhetoric aside -

Just because you won't vote for a Republican does not mean you have to vote for a Democrat. Duh.

I have never said I wouldn't vote for a Republican. I have voted for Republicans, and I expect too again in the future. In this case, however, I will vote against the shrub.

[KQ]

Originally posted by tuffy109
you don't have to be a democrat to see we have the biggest fucking moron of a president ever.

George W. Bush a divider after all

THE INDEPENDENT
EDITORIAL COMMENTARY

When President Bush mounts the podium in the U.S. Congress tonight to deliver this year's State of the Union address, it will be the last time that he formally accounts to American voters before they deliver their verdict on him at elections in November.

Judiciously leaked hints suggest he intends to focus on the war with Iraq, on his role as commander in chief and on his determination to make, and keep, the United States secure from enemy attack.

This is probably a wise course for the White House. The patriotic card has served Bush exceptionally well since 9/11 and it continues to do so. Despite the rising number of U.S. casualties in Iraq and the accumulating evidence of how desperately the aftermath of the war has been mismanaged, Bush continues to draw high ratings for his conduct of the war. This is an unfortunate fact of U.S. politics, and one that neither we, as interested observers from across the Atlantic, still less his Democrat challengers, can afford to neglect.

Remove the patriotic card, however, and Bush's hand looks, as indeed it should, utterly unwinnable. When Dick Gephardt, one of the less fancied contenders for the Democratic nomination, condemned Bush recently as the worst of the five presidents he had served under, it was easy for the White House to ignore his remarks as mere internal Democrat positioning. Bush's record in office, however, shows that Gephardt may have been too complimentary. George W. Bush may be not only the worst of America's last five presidents, but one of the worst, if not actually the worst, ever.

Bush fails not only on our terms -- according to what we would like to see in a U.S. president -- but in his own terms as well, as judged by the aspirations he expressed for the United States during his election campaign.

The candidate who advertised himself as "a uniter, not a divider" has failed to narrow any of his country's glaring social and racial divisions.

The gaps are wider now than when he came to office. His stewardship of the mighty U.S. economy has been disastrous. He has accomplished the stunning feat of transforming the record budget surplus bequeathed to him by President Clinton into a record deficit. The strong dollar has grown weak; the trade deficit has ballooned; unemployment is up. The only beneficiaries of what hardly deserves to be called an economic policy are his pals in the multimillionaire class, which includes many in his Cabinet.

Bush has failed to extend his "compassionate conservatism" much further than his immediate circle. He has attended no military funerals and has banned photographs of the coffins of dead soldiers returning home.

The divisions he has sown extend abroad. The United States is more reviled than it has been since the Vietnam War. He has burnt many of the country's longest-standing, most reliable bridges, including those with Europe. The alliances that remain, with Britain, for example, have only shallow foundations in public opinion. On top of all this, Bush has done nothing to reduce U.S. standing as the world's No. 1 polluter, arrogantly shunning international efforts against global warming.

As Bush embarks on his re-election campaign, it is this vast catalogue of failure that constitutes the true state of the Union. Four years ago, Clinton reported to Congress, triumphantly, that the state of the union was "stronger than it has ever been." No wonder his successor intends to trade on a war that a majority of Americans apparently still see as short, successful and, on balance, conducive to their safety.

The biggest challenge for the Democrats is to force Bush to fight on his record, his whole record, not the laurel-wreathed warrior version. We must hope that whoever emerges from the primaries has the strength and conviction to unify the party and give U.S. voters the choice they deserve.

The Independent is published in Great Britain.

[yaze_bro]

why is it that those who scream the loudest about tolerance are pretty intolerant themselves?

[mr_gyptian]

KQ, stick to recipes you obviously able to grasp them.

Burnt long standing alliances with countries such as France and Germany not Europe. That is unless Spain, Poland, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands, Norway.

This is just another European whining about how aggressive our foreign policy has become. We do things like this so a blind eye is not turned to things such as a dictator taking over half a continent does not happen on our watch. I am not comparing Nazism to terrorism. what I'm saying is that we are doing is taking care of our own. Fortunately for this author, we consider Britain one of our own. Unfortunately, when it comes down to it we'd also consider Germany and France our allies should they come under attack. That is who we are.


Can anyone on this board think of one good reason we'd go in and provide aid to Iranians after that earthquake a couple of weeks ago. An earthquake that by the way was about the same size as the one that hit LA. LA suffered .001% of structural damage. I think two people died. 30,000 plus died in Iran because of the backassward hatemongering way they are forced to live life.

We are trying to change that. Obviously the status quo in the Middle East was not working.


Pay attention to things like this you thumb sucking self loathing anti american fucks. we do it because we are the greatest country on the face of this planet.

[Dr. Gaper]

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
KQ, stick to recipes you obviously able to grasp them.

Recipes, politics, it's all copy and paste, anyway.

[tuffy109]

another thin air sucker.

57 people died in the LA earthquake, i guess underestimating could be the running theme from your post.

bush has gone elsewhere to fight "terrorism", yet has hardly lifted a finger to prevent it here.

his programs are empty (please see how well he's done with his education programs), the amount of jobs lost since he got into office just tipped 3 million and now he's trying to fuck over senior citizens.

seriously, CAN YOU BE THAT FUCKING STUPID?

fuck, i could run the country better smoking weed all day.

[yaze_bro]

I think he was referring to the Pasa Robles quake around christmas.....about the same time as the one in Iran - both were around 6.2

[tuffy109]

Originally posted by yaze_bro
I think he was referring to the Pasa Robles quake around christmas.....about the same time as the one in Iran - both were around 6.2

cool, my bad. it's nice to see mr gyptian blame earthquake casualties on islam, not plate tectonics.

[Platinum Pete]

Originally posted by mr_gyptian


Can anyone on this board think of one good reason we'd go in and provide aid to Iranians after that earthquake a couple of weeks ago. An earthquake that by the way was about the same size as the one that hit LA. LA suffered .001% of structural damage. I think two people died. 30,000 plus died in Iran because of the backassward hatemongering way they are forced to live life.
.

So many people died in the Iranian quake because their country is poor. Bush are not trying to change that.

Originally posted by mr_gyptian

Pay attention to things like this you thumb sucking self loathing anti american fucks. we do it because we are the greatest country on the face of this planet.

Also, because someone is critical of the president or federal policies does not make them anti-american or america hating. We are the greatest country on earth and should be doing more for the rest of the world, and for ourselves.

[yaze_bro]

to all those who think the French are more with it than the US....they seem to have their own troubles - debate over religious symbols in public schools....

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...360799233.html

[tuffy109]

Originally posted by Platinum Pete




Also, because someone is critical of the president or federal policies does not make them anti-american or america hating. We are the greatest country on earth and should be doing more for the rest of the world, and for ourselves.

that might be a little too much to swallow for some of the people here.

[Dr. Gaper]

Originally posted by Platinum Pete
should be doing more for the rest of the world, and for ourselves.

Well, we should be doing more for ourselves, anyway -

Foreign aid is little more than welfare for nations -- with the same disastrous effects as domestic welfare programs.

The U.S. currently spends approximately $14 billion per year on foreign aid -- far less than most people believe, but still a substantial sum. Since the end of World War II, the United States has spent more than $400 billion on aid to other countries. But there is little evidence that any of these programs has significantly improved the lives of the people in countries receiving this aid. Instead, foreign aid has typically slowed economic development and created dependence.

Indeed, the U.S. Agency for International Development itself admits, "Only a handful of countries that started receiving U.S. assistance in the 1950s and 1960s has ever graduated from dependent status." In fact, despite massive amounts of international aid, the average annual increase in per capita GNP has declined steadily in developing nations since the 1960s, with many of the Third World's heaviest aid recipients actually suffering negative economic growth.

Tanzania provides a perfect example. Since the early 1970s, Tanzania has received more international aid per capita than any other country. Yet, the country remains the world's third-poorest nation and has had no per capita GNP growth between 1980 and 1992. During the same period, inflation averaged 25% and energy and agricultural production declined dramatically.

[Plakespear]

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
Burnt long standing alliances with countries such as France and Germany not Europe. That is unless Spain, Poland, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands, Norway.

Way to throw in Spain twice to make your total seem larger.

Anyway, here is the breakdown- as of Sep 7 2003- of where the 156,576 coalition troops hailed from:

1. United States: 130,000

2. Britain: 10,620

3. Italy: 3,000

4. Poland: 2,350

5. Ukraine: 1,650

6. Spain: 1,254

7. Netherlands: 1,100

8. Australia: 800

9. Slovakia: 800

10. Romania: 700

11. Bulgaria: 500

12. Thailand: 443

13. Denmark: 420

14. Czech Republic: 400

15. Honduras: 368

16. El Salvador: 361

17. Dominican Republic: 302

18. Norway: 179

19. Mongolia: 160

20. Azerbaijan: 150

21. Hungary: 140

22. Portugal: 120

23. Nicaragua: 113

24. Latvia: 100

25. Philippines: 80

26. Albania: 70

27. Georgia: 70

28. New Zealand: 61

29. Croatia: 60

30. Lithuania: 50

31. Moldova: 50

32. Estonia: 43

33. Macedonia: 37

34. Kazakhstan: 25

Total: 156,576

[yaze_bro]

I think that Japan is sending troops this week.....

[grrrr]

Originally posted by tuffy109
cool, my bad. it's nice to see mr gyptian blame earthquake casualties on islam, not plate tectonics.

It is hard to tell if he's a racist or a moron.

[repeat]

As much as i hate to defend Bush, and as much as I dislike his foreign policy, is it really fair to blame the economy and loss of jobs on him? Almost every sane economist had been predicting a downturn for some time. I mean there is a reason it was called a "bubble".

[1080Rider]

Seriously man, talkin' politics on this board is like the old freeze board. You're a fag if you're conservative, you're a assmunch if you're liberal, you're a racist if you didn't vote for Jessie Jackson... everyone should tone it down a little. But, it won't happen so.... all you liberal panty waist's suck hairy balls!

[Blurred Elevens]

Originally posted by 1080Rider
Seriously man, talkin' politics on this board is like the old freeze board. You're a fag if you're conservative, you're a assmunch if you're liberal, you're a racist if you didn't vote for Jessie Jackson... everyone should tone it down a little. But, it won't happen so.... all you liberal panty waist's suck hairy balls!

Actually, conservatives are pro-heterosexual, where as Liberals are pro "stuff it in my ass Bob..."

That being said, You're a pussy eating heterosexual if your conservative, and your a fag if your a Liberal....just wanted to clear that up.

[SledNeck]

[hijack]Speakin of fags, wtf is this gay pride shit. You take it in the ass from a man and balls across the face. Now your gonna go walk around the street and tell everybody your proud cause you let someone sodomize you. WTF is wrong with that picture?[/hijack]

[Blurred Elevens]

Originally posted by SledNeck
[hijack]Speakin of fags, wtf is this gay pride shit. You take it in the ass from a man and balls across the face. Now your gonna go walk around the street and tell everybody your proud cause you let someone sodomize you. WTF is wrong with that picture?[/hijack]

Tuffy, Dexter Rutecki and Ted Stryker have been leaders of Gay Pride rallies since day one. They want to spread their love of being sodomized to any other dudes that may be persuaded into their way of thinking.....makes no sense to me either dude...

[Dexter Rutecki]

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
Burnt long standing alliances with countries such as France and Germany not Europe. That is unless Spain, Poland, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands, Norway.

You're an ignorant fuckwit.
Nice paragraph with no sentences.
There are too many of you here.