Who else here is a Pisco afficionado???

[rideit]

MMM...pisco. Acholado...mosca verde...quebranta...italiano...puro Peruano es el Mejor!!!
(I need one of these bumper thingies!!)

[Sinecure]

I have a bottle in the liquor cabinet from my last trip to Chile. I hardly think that makes me an afficionado though. I got the impression its the national drink of Chile.

[rideit]

Unfortunately, Chilean Pisco sucks ass. Sad but true.

[Spats]

...paging ducktherope...

[smitchell333]

Pisco is great.

Peruvian pisco is mostly garbage whereas Chile has the fino stuff. You're sadly mistaken if you think otherwise. I've travelled both places and tried plenty.

Pisco negro(with Coke) and Piscaya (with papaya juice) are my favorites.

[splat]

Fuckin ducktherope lived on that shit all day and all night for two and a half weeks down in Ushuaia.

[rideit]

Pisco is great.

Peruvian pisco is mostly garbage whereas Chile has the fino stuff. You're sadly mistaken if you think otherwise. I've travelled both places and tried plenty.

Pisco negro(with Coke) and Piscaya (with papaya juice) are my favorites.

I am sorry, but you have no idea of which you speak. Cheap pisco is garbage wherever, Peru pretty much has the drop on true vintage and fine Pisco. Cripey, Chilean pisco is never drunk Puro, why do you think that is?
Read this:http://www.peruvianembassy.us/all-ab...omy-pisco1.php
FWIW, last december I went to the elqui Pisco valley in Chile (the only place it is made in Chile, and is only named 'elqui Pisco' to prevent a WTO order against Chile even calling their product Pisco) to try and find something of quality, like Ocucaje 100 anos, but sadly, only found mass produced, adulterated crap. And that was with 20 or so tastings!
Fine Peruvian Pisco is brandy or cognac like in quality, the Pisco used for Pisco sours is something else entirely.

[Cornholio]

When we were in Chile we were invariably served Peruvian Pisco.

Not that it matters that much. The first one tastes like turpentine, and the rest flow like mother's milk.

[smitchell333]

Cripey, Chilean pisco is never drunk Puro, why do you think that is?
Read this:http://www.peruvianembassy.us/all-ab...omy-pisco1.php

FWIW, last december I went to the elqui Pisco valley in Chile (the only place it is made in Chile, and is only named 'elqui Pisco' to prevent a WTO order against Chile even calling their product Pisco) to try and find something of quality, like Ocucaje 100 anos, but sadly, only found mass produced, adulterated crap. And that was with 20 or so tastings!
Fine Peruvian Pisco is brandy or cognac like in quality.

It is drunk puro - "pisco corto" is how you order it that

Well Gosh if a self interested, uncorrupted entity like the peruvian government says it true, it must be.

I tried to find good pisco in Peru, but everything I tried tasted unpleasantly harsh unlike the numerous fine tasting stuff I sampled in Chile. Maybe I just missed the good stuff after trying 8 or 10 kinds in restaurants, liquor stores, etc in Peru. I spent much more time in Chile travelling and sampling and certainly didn't visit the pisco growing region in Peru searching for it. I can attest that the only pisco I've found here in the US from Peru is harsh garbage.

If you've got something that can prove the quality of Peruvian stuff you're welcome to mail it to me for me to sample.

[smitchell333]

When we were in Chile we were invariably served Peruvian Pisco.

I find this hard to believe with the rivalry between Chile and Peru. I cant imagine a self respecting Chilean serving Peruvian or visa versa

[cj001f]

I find this hard to believe with the rivalry between Chile and Peru. I cant imagine a self respecting Chilean serving Peruvian or visa versa

Yeah, when I was in Chile I only saw Chilean pisco in the stores. I never spent more than $2/bottle, so I'm not an expert........

[MassLiberal]

Peruvians are just pissed since chileans handed them their asses many times over.

Peru, the France of South America....

[cj001f]

Peruvians are just pissed since chileans handed them their asses many times over.

Peru, the France of South America....

What does that make Paraguay?

[MassLiberal]

What does that make Paraguay?

Good point.

I'm more interested in fanning a gringo peru vs. chile flame war. Would be interesting.

[rideit]

Good point.

I'm more interested in fanning a gringo peru vs. chile flame war. Would be interesting.

Sonoran Pisco RULES.

[MassLiberal]

For all your pisco related questions

I'm partial to chilean pisco solely due to the fact that the most amazingly beautiful chilean girl introduced me to it while I was hiking torres del paine, patagonia. I later had a torrid affair with this same chilean girl, and have forever viewed everything and anything that has to do with chile in a favorable light.

Henceforth my disdain for peruvian pisco (plus they invented chicha in peru, now that's a scary drink!!!!)

[Cono Este]

First time I ever got puking drunk was on pisco. My dates mother picked us up and I puked in her car. She booted me out of the car and ended up getting arrested for being out after a curfew.

Not as pretty as the picture ML drew, but a glorious night never the less.

Pics ML?

[MassLiberal]

I would have to scan them in, they are from jan. 2000, before I converted over to digital.

[Cono Este]

Chicha? That stuff hurts the head!

[MassLiberal]

Chicha? That stuff hurts the head!

especially when you think about how it's made!!

[RootSkier]

Post the pics. Preferably naked. I haven't seen that many hot Chilean chicks. No offense to any Chileans in the house.

Maybe I was spoiled by the beautiful women of Argentina.

[smitchell333]

My too much pisco story:

My buddy Mike and I were travelling around camping out and skiing the Volcanoes in the Lakes region of Chile for 4 weeks. Every time we'd stop a the grocery store we'd pick up a couple of bottles of Pisco for a good nights partying with our homemade pisco sours after each successful volcano descent. Typically we would buy the basic Pisco Capel found in every store -usually no more than $2-3 for a bottle, and we typically would knock off a whole bottle in one evening.

One day in Villarica we decided to try something a bit more refined. I stood there at the row after row of pisco until the store manager came up and asked if I needed help. I asked for the "mejor" or the best pisco they had. He pointed me to a reservado at a whopping $8 a bottle - the most expensive on the shelf - what the heck thats still cheap - so I got it.

That evening it started to pour rain so we figured the next day's ski tour was off, crawled into our tent and cracked that pisco to party it up. After 2 big and apparently potent pisco sours later and only 2/3 way through the bottle we were totally crocked. I could hardly see straight or stand and when we got out of the tent to piss Mike stumbled and fell head over heels over a fence and rolled into the bushes.

What the fuck I thought - why are we so fucked up? I investigated the bottle - how could we be so drunk while just 2/3 way through the bottle when we usually polished a whole bottle no problem - well after close inspection I suddely figured it out - we were getting blasted on two fronts with this stuff:

1) The bottles we had been drinking on previous occassion were 500ml and this was 750ml.
2) They apparently make many different proofs - whereas here most liquor is 45% or 90 proof - there they have everything from 25% to 55%. We had been drinking 30% alcohol stuff in the small bottle and now were drinking the "mejor" at a whopping 55%!!!

500ml X .3= .150ml alcohol
750ml X .55 x. 66 = 272ML of alcohol

so we'd already had like twice the alcohol we were used to.

I know Mike would keep drinking and was afraid I'd go along so I tossed the bottle as far as I could into the bushes.

The next day it poured rain all day - and thankfully so cause we were so hung over we could hardly move.

[ducktherope]

Ahh, pisco - the other white meat. By the other responses I am surely not the pro on quality but I can attest to the medicinal benefits of the following:

Capel
Equal parts of the rough and smooth sugar (mix to taste)
Squeezed fresh lime
A dollop of egg white

20 shakes and serve in a chilled wine glass. Best served with the French Women's Mogul team in the vicinity.

Damn thread, now I know that I have to head south this summer.

[shamrockpow]

Pisco is great.

Peruvian pisco is mostly garbage whereas Chile has the fino stuff. You're sadly mistaken if you think otherwise. I've travelled both places and tried plenty.

Pisco negro(with Coke) and Piscaya (with papaya juice) are my favorites.

You sir, have no idea of what you speak.

My credentials: right now sitting in an office in Ica (the department of Peru that produces Pisco) trying to keep the papers from falling off my desk during this off and on temblor.

Also: studied 6 months in Chile, travelled maybe another 2-3 months in a country that think Capel is a drinkable product. It is not. (maybe as piscola...)

Peruvian pisco (like Ocucaje, Tres Generaciones, etc.) is smooth, but refreshing. What´s more, most houses in this part of the country homemake their own pisco and cachina. It is artesanal and an important part of life. In Chile, it is just the fastest way to get a girl to let you put your hands down her pants.

Now, Chilean wine vs. Peruvian is a whole different story...

[rideit]

You sir, have no idea of what you speak.

My credentials: right now sitting in an office in Ica (the department of Peru that produces Pisco) trying to keep the papers from falling off my desk during this off and on temblor.

Also: studied 6 months in Chile, travelled maybe another 2-3 months in a country that think Capel is a drinkable product. It is not. (maybe as piscola...)

Peruvian pisco (like Ocucaje, Tres Generaciones, etc.) is smooth, but refreshing. What´s more, most houses in this part of the country homemake their own pisco and cachina. It is artesanal and an important part of life. In Chile, it is just the fastest way to get a girl to let you put your hands down her pants.

Now, Chilean wine vs. Peruvian is a whole different story...

AMEN, brother!

Peruvian Wine....uggghh...shudder....Capel? gets ya' drunk.
Sham, we gotta party in Playa Asia this Febuary!!