Bigger Bro Model

[edg]

Apparently no one gives a shit what you think, max!

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[benDover]

what everybody else said, but I think a more consistant flex through the mid-way point between the tip and the toe piece for stability in chopped is most important. Meaning from the tail to the half way point between the tip and toe piece being super stiff and then a bit softer from that point to the tip for float would prove to be optimal for hairy situations.

Just my .02

[GheePup]

Interested to see what becomes of the Big Bros this summer. Yeah I am only 5'9" and 155#. But I am still interested in long, stiff skis that haul ass. I will be patiently awaiting the feedback of how the Big Bros perform. This would be a very specialty ski for me but its something I want to add to my quiver.

I got my tight trees and bumps ski in my 178 8800's. I got my all around do everything ski in my 186 LP's. Now I want a go big or go home ski and a pair of 200-205 pair of Bro's seem to fit that bill.

If you build them, they will come.

[leroy jenkins]

I'd love to see a big bro at 195, swallow tail or twin, similar flex to softs. If they run $500 or $600 like the current bro, I'd even think about buying it. But it'd be last on my list after some 179's, and some sub 170's for my wife.

Dood, I think you just described AK Rockets.

[jonski]

bit late to chime in on this, but if we are looking at a NON-PRODUCTION, big killer ski as Idris intitially stated, then the 110 underfoot and 200+ length fits that bill. Not gonna personally argue too much over the details, as Unless I win the lottery, move to AK and buy a chopper with pilot, and thats the
only skiing I do for the rest of my life, I'll never be rockstar, strong or heavy enough to need that ski. But as one offs, dreams, and limited runs go, this would be a pretty killer ski, although I wonder how many people would need it to be too much stiffer than the Squad in all seriousness.

However, of we're talking the next production shape I'll be somewhat uncool and say something a bit skinnier. Not a conventional bump ski, but a maggot midfat. Something of a similar shape to say the Karma or the PR - high 80s to low 90s underfoot. A lot of peeps who ski in areas with firmer snow want something a bit quicker edge to edge, but generally have to get something soft like the PR, which isn't always grippy enough, or something too skinny for trips out west or on the odd pow day at home - like the 6 star.

I reckon the bro, with all 3 flex options, in a 180 (+-5cms) length, but about 88mm underfoot, (and maybe with a bit more twin to it to goof on?) would be a more commercial option, whilst still being
big enough for most here to consider and not feel undergunned on. Example, early/late season out west, maybe perfect one ski quiver out east, and with the weight benefits the layup provides, a serious contender
for a near perfect spring/summer corn harvesting plank. Also, the shape looks fat enough for the more 'commercial' buyer - what they would consider as a fat ski, without being '2 snowboards'

my $0.02...

[Jumper Bones]

Goddammit, give me something that I can't just go out and buy in a store. Keep in mind that I already have a 137-108-128mm ski...2 sets of them! Give Igneous a run for their money, make something that I'd have to pay even more extra for just to order it from them. Don't hold back!

For you people wanting something 100 or 105-waisted in a 190, go buy that shit in ski shops because that shit is average and it's readily available. Stuff like we're talking here isn't. This Pussification of America will not stand! It is the death of us!!!

[marshalolson]

This Pussification of America will not stand! It is the death of us!!!

hear hear

[3eyedsmiley]

However, of we're talking the next production shape I'll be somewhat uncool and say something a bit skinnier. Not a conventional bump ski, but a maggot midfat. Something of a similar shape to say the Karma or the PR - high 80s to low 90s underfoot. A lot of peeps who ski in areas with firmer snow want something a bit quicker edge to edge, but generally have to get something soft like the PR, which isn't always grippy enough, or something too skinny for trips out west or on the odd pow day at home - like the 6 star.

I reckon the bro, with all 3 flex options, in a 180 (+-5cms) length, but about 88mm underfoot, (and maybe with a bit more twin to it to goof on?) would be a more commercial option, whilst still being
big enough for most here to consider and not feel undergunned on. Example, early/late season out west, maybe perfect one ski quiver out east, and with the weight benefits the layup provides, a serious contender
for a near perfect spring/summer corn harvesting plank. Also, the shape looks fat enough for the more 'commercial' buyer - what they would consider as a fat ski, without being '2 snowboards'

my $0.02...

Ooh if PMGear had made that kind of ski for the regular price of Bros I would've jumped on them right away.

That said, PMGear is catering to a certainly niche market, and as such, making a ski like this would open up that niche significantly. Whether they want to do that or not depends on them. The bigger Bro would help extend the niche in the opposite direction. In a perfect world, PMGear would make Small Bro, Bro, and Big Bro so that almost everyone's wishes could be fulfilled, pretty much.

[rugbydave]

I'm all about a super stiff, nice and long, fat ( like 115) ski for charging. As has been said, a pintail would be killer and a rockered tip too. But please, please, make em in TWO sizes. I mean, I know I'ma strong skier and I love stiff skis (ex-racer, yada yada) but at 5'7" and 165lbs, a true 205 is just too long. So please hook up us vertically challenged charging mags by making this new Bro available in like a 193-5 and a 205, same dimensions, same flex, etc, just like a midget charging ski. Thanks from the little people...

[Meathelmet]

But please, please, make em in TWO sizes. I mean, I know I'ma strong skier and I love stiff skis (ex-racer, yada yada) but at 5'7" and 165lbs, a true 205 is just too long.

As Idris stated in the first post, THE SKI IS A FRIGGIN PROTO!
It will be a limited edition SHOWCASE.


So stop asking for a fucking watered down pussyfication of it. Let PMGear have a biggest marketing tool of the ski-industry outside the skijumping and get some weight,dude.



i am about the same size as you,so i dont even fantasize about the sticks..ehm..well..i do..but you get the point.




Shivering in anticipation.

[soul_skier]

Goddammit, give me something that I can't just go out and buy in a store. Keep in mind that I already have a 137-108-128mm ski...2 sets of them! Give Igneous a run for their money, make something that I'd have to pay even more extra for just to order it from them. Don't hold back!

For you people wanting something 100 or 105-waisted in a 190, go buy that shit in ski shops because that shit is average and it's readily available. Stuff like we're talking here isn't. This Pussification of America will not stand! It is the death of us!!!

WELL PUT!!! If i want 190 gotamas i'll go out and buy some, but I want something badass, huge, burly and preferably with "gaper-killer" written somewhere on it. Seriously, the industry need some skis that are stiff and long, a ski that makes the legend pro xxl look like a rental ski, we need skis that will make people step up, we need a true big bro...

[mc_roon]

WELL PUT!!! If i want 190 gotamas i'll go out and buy some, but I want something badass, huge, burly and preferably with "gaper-killer" written somewhere on it. Seriously, the industry need some skis that are stiff and long, a ski that makes the legend pro xxl look like a rental ski, we need skis that will make people step up, we need a true big bro...

says the guy who is 5-10 and 140lbs.

[splat]

Creative and ingenius suggestions specific to size, dimensions, radius, amount of rocker, and stiffness (fore and aft) that could be formulated into a poll and voted on? Once we feel like we have something that has enough appeal to work for a good number of skiers here, it makes it easier to hone in on a design. Maybe a template for opinions would be cool.

[Dromond]

Creative and ingenius suggestions specific to size, dimensions, radius, amount of rocker, and stiffness (fore and aft) that could be formulated into a poll and voted on? Once we feel like we have something that has enough appeal to work for a good number of skiers here, it makes it easier to hone in on a design. Maybe a template for opinions would be cool.

For the record, this is really cool to see. I can't wait to see what kind of prototypes come out in the end, whatever beasts they may be

[leroy jenkins]

[QUOTE=soul_skier]...preferably with "gaper-killer" written somewhere on it. [QUOTE]

Best idea in this thread. The graphics should have bloody starter jackets or somethign else mothers would shield thier childrens eyes from.

[mc_roon]

and preferably with "gaper-killer" written somewhere on it.

and put FKNA on the bases

[Dromond]

and put FKNA on the bases

This is an idea someone suggested for, I think, the first run of Bros. It so should never have been scrapped!

[Squatch]

This is an idea someone suggested for, I think, the first run of Bros. It so should never have been scrapped!

I think it was because it was way too expensive for a smalll run of skis.

[Dromond]

I think it was because it was way too expensive for a smalll run of skis.

Yeah, lasercutting peices of base material can't be cheap.


...but really, how awesome would that be?

[ill-advised strategy]

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everybody now....

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and the crowd goes wild .....aahhahhahahhhhh!!

[splat]

For the record, this is really cool to see. I can't wait to see what kind of prototypes come out in the end, whatever beasts they may be

We'd like to do a few different sidecuts to take south and test. I might be wishin in one hand and shittin in the other, but wtf, I want to do it. But we need to get some base profiles in CAD to send to the base cutters with the rest of our orders, and if there's one thing I've learned in this business it's that summer goes by really fast.

btw- Slim - would you pm me? I need some help with some CAD files.

[soul_skier]

any chance you could do an alternate run of the same big bro, whatever the dimensions happen to be, but with different, less G rated graphics, I'm thinking a black or dark red topsheet base color, with a birdos puder luder style porn star image on top up by the tips, with "gaper killer" written on the tails...PLEASE!

[GheePup]

Bro Model with "gaper killer" written below, FKNA on the bases and devil finger smiley on the tips. Make the top sheet black. Or just some NSFW brunnette should be the graphic for this long, stiff and fat ski. How fitting?

edit: Soul Skier beat me to it on the black topsheet and the porn.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The graphics should have bloody starter jackets....

alright, I gotta admit I laughed at that one.

[dirtybryan]

I wanna see somewhere on the top sheet a spinal tap reference "but these go to eleven." The Big Bro's give you that extra push over the cliff.