chills for dynafit users....

[verbier61]

http://www.skitour.fr/articles/read_70.html

holy balls !!!!!

[Meathelmet]

Je nö parle fransee!

And baablefish suck too..

A small referate?

Courtes face something in two minutes something..

[mojorisin]

on doit le the fuck translate, please

[Idris]

Je nö parle fransee!

And baablefish suck too..

A small referate?

Courtes face something in two minutes something..

These guys fell all the way down the NNE couloir of the Courtes 710m in less than 2 min. Acording to his watch they fell at 538m per min.

Both banged up but otherwhise not much damage. Very luck. Fall speed reduced due to ploughing through the fresh snow. No rock bands to hit and their Rude state of health.

Something about a Dynafit pre relesase. Atlthough if I'm reading this correctly (and I may well be wrong). Clipping a rock on your first turn. On a 50 degree slope. If you weigh 80kg without your gear you may want more than DIN 8.

For skiing something like this where most of the climb is a bootpack and the skin to the base is non technical I personaly prefer my Securifix (trekka predecessor) and my heavy alpine binders.

[bklyn]

the picture is worth a few hundred words, at least.

[Arno]

that is scary shit - even with my rudimentary French

[verbier61]

yeah yeah yeah it's not a prerelease, he got a rock.... dynafit released and he crashed against the second skier. They also flew over a crevasse, apparently....
The main dynafit issue discussed here is that they are tricky to drill (there's no way to fix them better to the boot once drilled) and he felt there might have been too much space between the rear binding and the boot...
anyway, veeeeeeeeeeery lucky dudes.

[pechelman]

for those of us that arent multilingual in Frenchy

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

edit: not that it translates great, but at least its better than trying to read frenchy words and marks

[Meathelmet]

The main dynafit issue discussed here is that they are tricky to drill (there's no way to fix them better to the boot once drilled) and he felt there might have been too much space between the rear binding and the boot...
anyway, veeeeeeeeeeery lucky dudes.

Just to think out loud, the comforts in this case is nice.
They can adjust,what,15mm in either direction to accomodiate different sized boots?

[verbier61]

They can adjust,what,15mm in either direction to accomodiate different sized boots?

dunno exactly, but doubt. Dynafit also claims that one must bring both boots to the place were skis are drilled, than mark left and right skis.....because also few millimeters between left and right boots might be a problem

[cj001f]

dunno exactly, but doubt. Dynafit also claims that one must bring both boots to the place were skis are drilled, than mark left and right skis.....because also few millimeters between left and right boots might be a problem

I've found that true. I'm not sure if it's because the bindings are off a few mm or the fittings in the boot are off a few mm.

[Pow4Brains]

Dammit……after researching Dynafits the last few days on this forum I was pretty much sold on them. I was super pumped to throw down for some DPs from Marshal and put some Dynafits on em’ for the ultimate lightweight touring set up. This is not helping the cause for the Dynafits………………

[PNWbrit]

Dammit……after researching Dynafits the last few days on this forum I was pretty much sold on them. I was super pumped to throw down for some DPs from Marshal and put some Dynafits on em’ for the ultimate lightweight touring set up. This is not helping the cause for the Dynafits………………

Don't sweat it - get them mounted by someone who does a lot of them. you'll be fine.

At least one of the guys who just skied the north face of Everest did it on Dynafits.

[verbier61]

well dynafits are still cool, but you want to be sure to have them drilled at their best. said that, I am always a bit -you know - scared whan using them in risky places. they're cool, but look so primitive....

[wilcox510]

pow4brains - dont worry about it. dynafits are way more reliable than fritchis have ever been. i've busted a couple fritchi toe pieces and have busted the red volcano on my dynafits, but they are still fully functional in that state. they are probably the most reliable and bomber AT binding ever. and they tour sooooooo much better than fritchi. a little finicky at getting in and out, but way worth it. buy em..after a day or two on them you'll be glad

[Pow4Brains]

Kool. Thanks for the reassurance. Are any of you from the Denver area and have recommendations on where to have them mounted (not real happy with Bentgate and Neptune)? Is anyone out there skiing Dynafits with a ski around 100mm underfoot? I can’t decide between the DP Wailer 95 or 105. My current AT set ups are: REXs with Titanal 2s and ANT with Freerides.
Any input would be apprecatied.
BTW-I’m 6’ and 190#

[Camilo]

Kool. Thanks for the reassurance. Are any of you from the Denver area and have recommendations on where to have them mounted (not real happy with Bentgate and Neptune)? Is anyone out there skiing Dynafits with a ski around 100mm underfoot? I can’t decide between the DP Wailer 95 or 105. My current AT set ups are: REXs with Titanal 2s and ANT with Freerides.
Any input would be apprecatied.
BTW-I’m 6’ and 190#

Do it yourself. If you're careful, you'll likely do a better job than they can with a jig. Dynafits are the first binding I ever mounted myself and it was no problem. If you're really nervous, practice mounting them on a pair of Goodwill skis and you'll be more comfortable. Lou Dawson's instructions.
As for 100mm underfoot skiers with Dynafits, Bros with Dynafits review.

[Pow4Brains]

Yeah, saw these, thanks.
I know this could go on forever but I have to ask (opinions are like assholes and some of the stink…..blah, blah). I guess my real question is, for an all around/everyday touring set up, would you go with the DP Wailer 95 or 105 and why (please note I do have the ANTs with Freerides)? What boot and what Dynafit binding? I was thinking Megaride and Comfort.

[iskibc]

Go to edgeworks in Denver to have them mounted. They always do an excellent job.

That's definitely a scary article. Having the same thing happen to me on Crystal Peak earlier this spring, I've found that it's important to make sure you are in the bindings 100%. Turns out my toe holes weren't all the way in when I stepped into the binding. The comforts are great too since you can adjust the heel forward and back to get a precise fit.

[Pow4Brains]

Go to edgeworks in Denver to have them mounted. They always do an excellent job.

That's definitely a scary article. Having the same thing happen to me on Crystal Peak earlier this spring, I've found that it's important to make sure you are in the bindings 100%. Turns out my toe holes weren't all the way in when I stepped into the binding. The comforts are great too since you can adjust the heel forward and back to get a precise fit.

It's cuz of YOU that I am buy new shit
What do you think about width of b/c ski?

[iskibc]

It's cuz of YOU that I am buy new shit
What do you think about width of b/c ski?

Buying new gear is a great mode of therapy.

If you want something fairly lightweight and can use in just about any conditions, go with the Bro Model. Wide skis are great for spring touring as well. They ride corn snow like a surfboard carving a wave. Real smooth.

I would stick with something in the 90mm-100mm underfoot range.

[upallnight]

Hitting a rock is not a pre-release. If it's really sketch, you can LOCK down the toe on the Dynafits.

The salient points are:
1) Dynafit bindings are super-bomber and I would trust them on *any* descent (not hucking unless the huck is small and the landing is soft).
2) You need to mount them properly, but this is also true for every AT binding. Many Dynafit models allow for some adjustment of the heel for a precise fit (Comforts go one shell size in either direction), and it's super-important to use the Dynafit-supplied spacer to check the fit.
3) You need to make sure that you clean the Dynafit receptacles on the front of your boot to keep them free of snow/ice/slush...and you really need to ensure the boot is securely seated in the toe piece. Seems trivial, but it's a little challenging (at first) when you're in the field & putting them on on steep terrain. You want to have this absolutely dialed before starting your descent, and it involves practice at home & in lower-consequence areas first.

Dynafits are definitely RELIABLE if you want to keep your skis on in the hairiest of descents. If you're looking for the best binding to release in all biomechanically-correct directions, look elsewhere.

[Dirk Diggler]

Kool. Thanks for the reassurance. Are any of you from the Denver area and have recommendations on where to have them mounted (not real happy with Bentgate and Neptune)? Is anyone out there skiing Dynafits with a ski around 100mm underfoot? I can’t decide between the DP Wailer 95 or 105. My current AT set ups are: REXs with Titanal 2s and ANT with Freerides.
Any input would be apprecatied.
BTW-I’m 6’ and 190#

I'll second mounting yourself using the template on Lou Dawsons site. Its super easy if you just take your time.

I've got lotus 120's with comforts and Prohetes/106 with classic tlts. Ski width is not an issue. If anything its the dynafit compatible boots that are just now catching up to the bigger skis.

I always ski with the toe locked and still release on a good beater. If you don't ski with it locked, I recommend at least pulling the lever up and pushing it back down just to make sure your pins are seated. If you just step into them, sometimes you can feel like the ski is on, when its not. I think this catches people at times and what people call prerelease is really user error. And as mentioned, keeping ice out from under the toe wings and boot sockets is critical. Otherwise the bindings are bomber.

[marshalolson]

What do you think about width of b/c ski?

wailer 105 = perfect for this application.

there is no reason to go smaller

[upallnight]

I always ski with the toe locked and still release on a good beater. If you don't ski with it locked, I recommend at least pulling the lever up and pushing it back down just to make sure your pins are seated. If you just step into them, sometimes you can feel like the ski is on, when its not. I think this catches people at times and what people call prerelease is really user error. And as mentioned, keeping ice out from under the toe wings and boot sockets is critical. Otherwise the bindings are bomber.

Dirk--are you worried about that f-ing up your knee (having it in locked when you might take falls)? The release at the toe, in my opinion, isn't that great.

Also, what you say is on-the-money: People need to step in, then pull up on the same front lever you use to lock the toe. Usually, the first click is easy to get to, but you're still not fully in. You need to keep pulling (I get a couple more clicks). Then, I back it down to release-mode. The effort to get to the 2nd click is much more than the first, but over time it becomes a bit easier.

This is very important every time you step in, even if you're not locking the toe for the descent.

Again, folks -- try it at home before doing this in the field.