Phantom Menace

[mrw]

I found these surfing another website. Anyone using these?

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I read the other thread but am looking for an update

[bio-smear]

I saw a guy with a pair the other day... He was parked on the Mt Rose East Bowl access road, looked like he was going to drop in to ski down towards the Christmas Tree. Anyway, kinda random.

[spindrift]

What kind of an update are you looking for? Any specific questions?

[Z]

I'd say go for it if your all about making 4 turns down one mogul.

[Vicious]

Sidecut much?

[mrw]

What kind of an update are you looking for? Any specific questions?

I was wondering if anyone has a season on them yet? I read the other thread on the Phantom that was out prior to the Crystal Ship. Splat's comments got me thinking that if I could mount a pair with demo bindings, I could use them in the trees and my wife could use them in powder. The idea may be a little wacky but it's off season and my mind is wandering

[splat]

You've likely never felt the G forces of a carve like you will on that Phantom on the groomed. Radius is like 10-15 feet. In powder, it's like skiing in your bedroom slippers. mrw, your plan is sound.

There are no Phantoms around right now that I know of. They might show up again next season.

[mrw]

Vielen Dank

[spindrift]

The previous threads pretty much apply. They are obviously not "big arc" kinds of skis. If you get past that, they are huge fun in any kind of soft snow & totally rule in tight little places. I like them a ton.

The bedroom slippers comment is appropriate - they are soft & glidy & have tons of float despite their short length. I'm 220-ish pounds and they usually keep me right on top. Construction is great. I have 20+ days of fooling around on mine (the 160s) and they have held up beyond reasonable expectation. Looked virtually like new until last week...

Not surprisingly, they are no fun on ice or hardpack or nasty crust. Under those conditions they take a long time to hook up & then just whip around. Just don't take them on those days. At least at my weight, tip dive can be an issue now and again especially in breakable crust or super wet snow.

If you find a pair - and especially given your stated goals - mount them with something that lets you play with both sole length and boot center. There is a fair bit of latitude on mount point depending on intended use and your boot size. The Phantom folks now include mounting & tuning guidelines with the skis. If you snag a pair elsewhere, you might contact Dave at Phantom for this info. Or ping here and I'll summarize.

[mrw]

The previous threads pretty much apply. They are obviously not "big arc" kinds of skis. If you get past that, they are huge fun in any kind of soft snow & totally rule in tight little places. I like them a ton.

The bedroom slippers comment is appropriate - they are soft & glidy & have tons of float despite their short length. I'm 220-ish pounds and they usually keep me right on top. Construction is great. I have 20+ days of fooling around on mine (the 160s) and they have held up beyond reasonable expectation. Looked virtually like new until last week...

Not surprisingly, they are no fun on ice or hardpack or nasty crust. Under those conditions they take a long time to hook up & then just whip around. Just don't take them on those days. At least at my weight, tip dive can be an issue now and again especially in breakable crust or super wet snow.

If you find a pair - and especially given your stated goals - mount them with something that lets you play with both sole length and boot center. There is a fair bit of latitude on mount point depending on intended use and your boot size. The Phantom folks now include mounting & tuning guidelines with the skis. If you snag a pair elsewhere, you might contact Dave at Phantom for this info. Or ping here and I'll summarize.

thanks, now all I need is to dig up a pair