maggot down?

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 02:20 PM

this time it's me.

i was skiing a local popular BC spot earlier today and had just set a "personal best" on my time up the hike...my 2nd of the day.

i was 3 turns into my descent in variable conditions (/slushy), and one ski just got stuck in the slop -- i went down right away. didn't hear/feel/notice a pop. never had a ski-related injury, so i wasn't sure what an ACL/MCL tear would feel like....but my knee did hurt a bit.

i was able to stand up and make the rest of my descent (knee felt funky, couldn't really straighten in the whole way).

got to the road within a 1/4-mile of my car and started hiking back. the knee seemed OK-ish...until about 50 feet from my car. then i heard a little "pop" in the front of my knee toward my inner leg. i suddenly couldn't put pressure on it w/o great pain.

i hobbled/crawled back to the car, coasted home (down teton pass)...and here i am.

'bout to go to the clinic. we'll see what's up. i'm hopeful it's just a cartilege tear. it hurts to straighten my leg or put weight on it. it is not swollen, but it is very painful to the touch at the very upper part of the tibia (shin-bone, right?) on the inside of the knee.

wish me luck.

**hoarhey** · 04-13-2006, 02:22 PM

Good luck, UAH.
Sorry to hear this, hopefully it's not too bad.
Good thing you are getting yourself to treatment quickly.

**freshies** · 04-13-2006, 02:22 PM

damn, well, at least you got a full season in, right! heal up fast

**lemon boy** · 04-13-2006, 02:28 PM

that's what you get for soloing all the time (sorry, just had to).

That sucks man, hopefully it is something minor!

**4matic** · 04-13-2006, 02:33 PM

If you tore it it should have hurt right away and not been stable. Maybe your miniscus just slipped in an out. Good luck!

**Hutch** · 04-13-2006, 02:34 PM

Good luck! Hope its just a funky meniscus thing. Happens to me in slushy snow sometimes.

**onehotchili** · 04-13-2006, 02:44 PM

ouch. sorry to hear that E.

echoing what other folks have said... hopefully it is something minor.

**skier666** · 04-13-2006, 02:53 PM

OH SHIT!

Damn dude, sorry to hear that. I'm hoping for the best that its not as bad as it seems. This year, three guys I know hurt their knees and thought their ACL was blown...2 turned out OK, but one not so lucky.

**Trackhead** · 04-13-2006, 03:04 PM

If it's tender on the medial aspect (inside), that is where your MCL generally generates pain. Hence the name. Medial Collateral Ligament.

But who knows. Internet medicine is dubious, at best. Go to the ortho doc.

Rest up, heal up fast.

**Pow4Brains** · 04-13-2006, 03:27 PM

Sux Mang ((({{+VIBES+}}))) At least it’s near the end of the skiing season.
I blew my MCL at the Village 5 years ago. It was a “pop” and instantaneous pain. The docs there in Jackson really know what they are doing when it comes to this type of injury.
Good Luck

**schindlerpiste** · 04-13-2006, 03:31 PM

Can also be a flap tear of the posterior horn of the medial meniscus. Let's hope that it's not ligament damage.

**SherpaStyle** · 04-13-2006, 04:12 PM

Damn sorry to hear that. Good luck at the doc. Who are you going to?

But on a positive note, nice work beating your personal best Glory time. What'd you make it in? For some reason that thing kicked my ass today. Grrr. I'm tempted to go back up and show it who's boss.

Heal up fast!

**smolakian** · 04-13-2006, 04:19 PM

Doesn’t sound like an ACL to me. If it was you defiantly wouldn’t be able to ski slop all the way down. You would’ve felt the constant feeling of it giving way. But, what do I know…I’ve only done it once.

**alpinepronghorn** · 04-13-2006, 04:39 PM

Ah, damn, man, I'm really sorry to hear that. And to have it happen on the walk back to the car...damn.

Let me know if you need anything, I'd be happy to help. Blew out my MCL a year or so ago, and it definately sucks. Also, be careful who you let do your knee; I've got friends who attend on the ortho surgeries here and there are some really good and really not so good docs in the valley.

And what's your PR on Glory? You might as well get a little end of season dickwaving in... (you too Sherpa, I'm curious how much slower I am... might have a go this evening when things are a little less slushy.)

**skifishbum** · 04-13-2006, 04:43 PM

+++++++++++++++ Healing Vibes+++++++++++++
4 U

**sar13** · 04-13-2006, 04:47 PM

Sorry to hear that man.

Not to be the bearer of bad tidings but when I tore my ACL in '94 I skied down from Four-Shadows afterwards and had no instability until I bent down to put quarters in the Rancher pool table that night.

MRI showed a clean tear. Good news is that Dr. Rork did a damn fine job putting it back together and it barely hurts more than my "good" knee and vitamin I takes care of that.

I highly recommend Rork as do friends I have at St. Johns. Good luck and get excited for biking season. The summer after my surgery was the only one I could seriously contend in local Mtn bike races.

**Max Gosey** · 04-13-2006, 04:51 PM

Best of luck,man. Hope it's nothing too serious...

**SherpaStyle** · 04-13-2006, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by alpinepronghorn

And what's your PR on Glory? You might as well get a little end of season dickwaving in... (you too Sherpa, I'm curious how much slower I am... might have a go this evening when things are a little less slushy.)

My best time this season was 38. Nothing too impressive. I kept meaning to take a light pack on a good, calm day and see what I could bust it out in, but it didn't happen. I'm thinking about doing a full moon run up there tonight if it stays clear.

**Trackhead** · 04-13-2006, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by SherpaStyle

But on a positive note, nice work beating your personal best Glory time. What'd you make it in? For some reason that thing kicked my ass today. Grrr. I'm tempted to go back up and show it who's boss.

So what are fast times on Glory, just curious.

What's the 'record'?

I've hiked it 6 or 7 times, but never timed it.

How many verts is it to the prayer flags.

Back on topic. I had a 2nd degree MCL tear that ended my season years ago, but it healed relatively quickly and hasn't been a problem since.

Best of luck.

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by lemon boy

that's what you get for soloing all the time (sorry, just had to).

I knew that was coming -- I'm just surprised it took until the 4th post!

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 05:48 PM

had an MRI - torn meniscus, but seems like it could be repaired. we'll know more tomorrow @ 3pm, when i go under.

thanks for the good vibes!

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by alpinepronghorn

Ah, damn, man, I'm really sorry to hear that. And to have it happen on the walk back to the car...damn.

Let me know if you need anything, I'd be happy to help. Blew out my MCL a year or so ago, and it definately sucks. Also, be careful who you let do your knee; I've got friends who attend on the ortho surgeries here and there are some really good and really not so good docs in the valley.

And what's your PR on Glory? You might as well get a little end of season dickwaving in... (you too Sherpa, I'm curious how much slower I am... might have a go this evening when things are a little less slushy.)

Well, looks like I'm out for the season -- was really looking forward to climbing, too. Hm.

Will have to settle for about 130-140 days on snow since t-giving...(not sure what the final tally was at)...i was hoping for about 30-50 more. d'oh! was a good year, but i won't get my high peak goals in.

today's time on glory was just under 27 -- including the time it took for me to walk back to my car after crossing the street because i forgot my poles! d'oh!

for some reason, i felt fast hiking this year, but skinning i always felt slow as molasses.

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by sar13

I highly recommend Rork

Rork's the one working on me! Glad to hear this!!

I'm going to be back in no time. I'm psyched because this gives me a chance to work on some other projects, and I should still be able to work out the upper body & other leg.

Cardio might go to hell, though...

**upallnight** · 04-13-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Trackhead

So what are fast times on Glory, just curious.

I've hiked it 6 or 7 times, but never timed it.

How many verts is it to the prayer flags.

It's right @ 1,500 in 0.8 miles from car to the start of the descent.

I'm sure there are people out there that fly up it.

Right now it's "easy" because there's no trail-breaking and the steps are fairly firm.

**The Suit** · 04-13-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by upallnight

Well, looks like I'm out for the season -- was really looking forward to climbing, too. Hm.

Will have to settle for about 130-140 days on snow since t-giving...(not sure what the final tally was at)...i was hoping for about 30-50 more. d'oh! was a good year, but i won't get my high peak goals in.

today's time on glory was just under 27 -- including the time it took for me to walk back to my car after crossing the street because i forgot my poles! d'oh!

for some reason, i felt fast hiking this year, but skinning i always felt slow as molasses.

27 minutes! You could probably smoke me without any ligaments in either of your knees. I think the standard should be hiking your age. I can just about do that.

Bummer about the injury. The consensus on Rork is that while he may be quick to cut, he's really good at cutting, too. He repaired my thumb about six years ago and it went fine. I think Scott Harmon is the best for PT, although I heard he had a falling-out with Four Pines PT and I don't know how that resolved. Heal up!

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