Do Mormons really affect you?

[LIP]

All those people who have or will live on this earth will have the opportunity to hear the gospel of JESUS CHRIST and accept it or reject it. If it doesn't happen while they are alive on the earth they will have that opportunity before their eternal consingment.

Hell is a fugurative term used merely to mean if you go to hell you will not be in GOD'S presance. All those who choose not to accept the gospel of JESUS will be consinged there but it won't be a giant fire where they will be burning in torment for eternity.

So the Jews, buddhists, muslims, hindi and the rest of the non-chrisitan world will be consigned to hell since they don't believe in Jesus? Just curious.

[warthog]

Wow, this thread blowed up!

I have learned a lot from this thread.Mainly,
1. Mormon girls are not required to go on mission.
2. The book of Mormon was not originated in America(according to the Church)
3. Only Mormons in good standing can attend marriages at the Temple.
4. Jesus is related to caterpillars.

Who knew?

[Yonder_River]

So the Jews, buddhists, muslims, hindi and the rest of the non-chrisitan world will be consigned to hell since they don't believe in Jesus? Just curious.

Yes, we're going to hell.

It must be nice to know the absolute truth.

[kadeater]

So the Jews, buddhists, muslims, hindi and the rest of the non-chrisitan world will be consigned to hell since they don't believe in Jesus? Just curious.

As I wrote before:

"...all those who choose not to accept the gospel of JESUS will be consinged there..."

Christ said:

"I am the way and the truth and the life no man cometh unto the father but by me."

There is one road to salvation and it is found in JESUS CHRIST and none other.

EDIT: This is my belief and you are certainly entitled to your own. I am not claiming to be perfect or have all the answers I am mearly(sp) trying to answer the questions you have asked to the best of my ability and knowledge. In other words don't get your panties in a bunch over anything I say. If you want to know more call the MIBs (Mormons In Black) or visit http://lds.org. That is a great place to get better answers than mine.

[Lone Star]

As I wrote before:

"...all those who choose not to accept the gospel of JESUS will be consinged there..."

So as long as I'm never given the choice, I'm good to go? If I've never learned of Jesus, I go to Heaven?

[bigtrubs]

As I wrote before:

"...all those who choose not to accept the gospel of JESUS will be consinged there..."

Christ said:

"I am the way and the truth and the life no man cometh unto the father but by me."

There is one road to salvation and it is found in JESUS CHRIST and none other.

DUDE since when is it necessary to capitalize all the letters of the names within the HOLY TRINITY? It makes my pinky sore.

[Cyber Cop]

Yes, we're going to hell.

See you there.

or

maybe we are in hell?
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nah, the powder has been way too good.

[Lumpy]

Yes, it really sucks here. Everyone hates it. Stay away.

All those skiing Mormons are readily recognizable by the ray-bans they sport during storm skiing sessions.

[MakersTeleMark]

What I want to know is if the Mormans get the percentage once I'm picked up from my consignment in hell.

[The AD]

There is one road to salvation and it is found in JESUS CHRIST and none other.

Unless it's JOHN CHRIST.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself

[Long duc dong]

The existence of a supreme being of any ilk sounds nuts to some of us.

Agree 100%.

[kadeater]

Unless it's JOHN CHRIST.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself

no worries it made me laugh and im an uptight, judgemental, closeminded momon.

[Cyber Cop]

Why is this guy so damn happy?

because it's Sunday and he forgot to wear his Angel Skins?

[LIP]

As I wrote before:

"...all those who choose not to accept the gospel of JESUS will be consinged there..."

Christ said:

"I am the way and the truth and the life no man cometh unto the father but by me."

There is one road to salvation and it is found in JESUS CHRIST and none other.

EDIT: This is my belief and you are certainly entitled to your own. I am not claiming to be perfect or have all the answers I am mearly(sp) trying to answer the questions you have asked to the best of my ability and knowledge. In other words don't get your panties in a bunch over anything I say. If you want to know more call the MIBs (Mormons In Black) or visit http://lds.org. That is a great place to get better answers than mine.

Sweet, the majority of the population of the world is going to hell. Nice little club you guys got going over there. Very exclusive.

[bagtagley]

So the Jews, buddhists, muslims, hindi and the rest of the non-chrisitan world will be consigned to hell since they don't believe in Jesus? Just curious.

See, that's really the catch 22 isn't it? Any person with strong religious beliefs can claim to be open-minded and accepting of all people, but can you really avoid some level of sanctimony (sorry, but this really seems like a fitting use of the word) towards non-believers? I mean, a mormon/christian/jew/etc. isn't going to spend the time following the "rules" and dedicating themselves to their beliefs without some perceived reward, are they? So, in that light, a lot of what's been said would seem to have a hint of hypocrisy.

For example, kadeater had a great post initially, but your subsequent posts all use the words know and will rather than believe and should. To me, this certainty of being right and just is the foundation for threads and arguments like this. I'm not saying you don't believe in a "to each his own" philosophy, but can you really say that you don't feel somehow more entitled than others?

I think a belief system of any sort is important, and even more important is conviction towards those beliefs. However, when that conviction leads to the perception of beliefs as facts, it becomes harder to imagine the potential for an open mind.

Sorry if this reads as a personal attack to anyone (especially kadeater), it's more a long question than a proclamaton.

Edit: I just read your last post kadeater, and now my post seems somewhat out of line. Please don't read too much into it.

[kadeater]

well folks this has been a goot time and it has greatly helped out my post count but it is time for me to go. Thanks for the questions (seriously).

[AstroPax]

Plus mormons can actually be friends with you.. and won't drink all your beer.

Look, I've lived here in Utah just about my entire life. I'm not LDS, nor to I have any intention of becoming LDS.

But you need to understand one thing, 95% of mormons will never be a "true" friend of a non-mormon such as yourself unless you become a member of the church. It's just a fact of life around here. Plain and simple.

-Astro

[Magnoe]

See, that's really the catch 22 isn't it? Any person with strong religious beliefs can claim to be open-minded and accepting of all people, but can you really avoid some level of sanctimony (sorry, but this really seems like a fitting use of the word) towards non-believers? I mean, a mormon/christian/jew/etc. isn't going to spend the time following the "rules" and dedicating themselves to their beliefs without some perceived reward, are they? So, in that light, a lot of what's been said would seem to have a hint of hypocrisy.

For example, kadeater had a great post initially, but your subsequent posts all use the words know and will rather than believe and should. To me, this certainty of being right and just is the foundation for threads and arguments like this. I'm not saying you don't believe in a "to each his own" philosophy, but can you really say that you don't feel somehow more entitled than others?

I think a belief system of any sort is important, and even more important is conviction towards those beliefs. However, when that conviction leads to the perception of beliefs as facts, it becomes harder to imagine the potential for an open mind.

Sorry if this reads as a personal attack to anyone (especially kadeater), it's more a long question than a proclamaton.

You're kind of right but not completely. I do know there are some sects that take what Christ did on the cross and say it forgave and rectified to God the sins of ALL mankind (not just those who repent and accept it) and therefore there is universal salvation. But most people (and mainstream theology) look at the other statements of Christ and what Paul wrote to believe that they must acknowledge their shortcomings and accept the "free gift" of Christ's death first.

Anyway, just a sidenote.

[smolakian]

He is engaged in a rythymic activity that also has a broader phrasing dictated by the snow. Very similar to those Mormon hymns I was talking about earlier.

Also similar to long granite routes. And the dervishes at Dead shows a while back. We all are sort of chasing the same groove, even if in different churches.

Nice! Well said bro.

[whatcomridaz]

This thread has officially imploded. It does no good to battle over belief. I'm not gonna try and force my religion down anyone's throat, and sure not going to feel obligated to defend against ill-founded rumors when I know that the person who wants an answer will not be sueded to believe otherwise whether I give him a legit answer or not. If you want to know more, feel free to pm me. Otherwise-flame on. Oh--and here's a little lightening of the mood. Why is this guy so damn happy?

Cuz he's not in church on a beautiful sunday?

[skibe]

I do feel for the folks with kids, that does add a different dimension that we don't really worry about but there are plenty of options. .

You're right, there are plenty of options and next time you see my in GMD don't be affraid to buy me a beer out of pitty . Other than that I have to say that I have had the Honor of meeting my wife who grew up in a Mormon home with Mormon values and who still decided that some delinquent from NW Montana would make a good Husband and Father. I love Mormon girls !

[powder11]

utah is prolly the only place on earth you'll hear the term "oh my heck"

[brutah]

On the notion of going to hell, why do mormons babtise graves then?

Isn't it so those that died and were not mormon can now go to heaven?

That was my understanding and why I gave my mormon friends premission to babtise my grave after I die just in case I was wrong, of course who really wants to go to mormon heaven anyways?

[Dantheman]

I heart Mormon Pussy.

[bklyn]

It's all a bit easier to bear than the alternative... that when your lights go out, they go out forever.

That you're just as important in this universe as evaporated water. All your hopes and dreams, struggles, revelations, contributions like dust, within 200 years not to be remembered by family, friends or anyone who heard your voice and saw you in person. To be forgotten as if you never existed, your sole contribution a small fraction of a copy of a molecule you cannot see.

Would you not also do just about anything to ensure that your end was not an end but a transition? Would you not want to believe almost anything but that cold finality? Would you not find solace in the sacrifice of another, to stave off the abrupt stop of death, much less a god to come live among you and share mortal joys and suffering?

When all your senses and all you can perceive points to the cold unfairness of the cycle of life, comfort is found in myth/religion.