beans.

[el_jefe]

beans, beans
the musical fruit
the more you eat
the more you toot

the more you toot
the better you feel
so let's have beans
for every meal!

[Theodore]

There really isn't too much to worry about with fish. I've never heard the mercury and tuna thing, but it makes sense since its a silver fish. I've only heard that with swordfish. There are lots of other fish out there. Salmon, cod, orange roughee. Options are virtually endless. Then theres crab and lobster. Things are out there. I'd agree with the herbacides on plants too, unless you are eating organic stuff.

Ted

[CaddyDaddy77]

I just stared at Macdaddy's avatar for the last two minutes, what the hell are we talking about???

[Theodore]

Originally posted by el_jefe
beans, beans
the musical fruit
the more you eat
the more you toot

the more you toot
the better you feel
so let's have beans
for every meal!

Beans beans
they're good for your heart
the more you eat
the more you fart.

Had to ass my $0.02

[Tippster]

Originally posted by Theodore
There really isn't too much to worry about with fish. I've never heard the mercury and tuna thing, but it makes sense since its a silver fish...

Whaaaaat? You're not serious, right? So does this mean that Orange Roughy is high in Beta Carotene and Vitamin C?

What's up with RedFish, then? High in Iron? Is Salmon the "Veal" of the fish-world?

And you all do realize that there is no Kosher Shellfish, right? Oy, Gewalt!!

[iceman]

Originally posted by Tippster
Whaaaaat? You're not serious, right? So does this mean that Orange Roughy is high in Beta Carotene and Vitamin C?

And fiber!

[gonzo]

mmkay...I think my orginal intent is being lost along the line here.

Lemon Boy, I could give a fuck about animals dying if I eat them...and what freaks me out about beef is not Mad Cow but the factory farm, reprocessed dead diseased animal feed, and hormone shizzle that is coming out now since people are looking into the industry.

Also, there are plenty of people that can pull together a very good argument that mad cow is already a problem and it is in it's 5 to 10 year incubation period in many people. The fact that the meat industry has a huge lobby and PR system working for it does not improve anything either on the ole information front.

I was psyched to read that Chipolte article though. I fuggin love Chipolte...mmmmm...

As far as bean farms being bad like animal farms, I have to disagree. "Growing" plants is OK. "Growing" meat is becoming /has become like growing plants, and that is gross, since animals are VERY different from plants for obvious reasons.

As far as the "free range" and "organic" options go, I know full well that I can go into a Whole Foods and pay 2 bucks more for something labeled as such, but how am I supposed to know how they are defining those terms?

And I do want to find a farm where I can get pig and beef and shit and put it in my freezer. That would be gooooood.

edit: and the FDA recently said salmon should only be eaten once a week since farmed salmon (which is 90% or something of all salmon on the market) is fed ground up salmon, which contains bad shit that goes into the meat you eat and makes it toxic at high levels.

I think all this food crap is why americans get so much more cancer than other societies.

[iceman]

Gonzo-

You can trust Whole Foods Markets, at least for beef and Chicken. Their beef is from Coleman Ranch and their chicken is from Bell and Evans.

I know both of those companies well and worked closely with them for a company that specialized in dealing with the USDA for meat and poultry producers. They were the first companies to receive permission to use "Organic" on their labeling, and the hoops they made these companies jump through were amazing. I probably know more about this industry than anyone on the board and I personally trust Coleman and Bell and Evans.

I buy my meat at Whole foods. It's a pain in the ass because you end up having to go to two grocery stores (Whole Foods sucks for things like paper towels, etc.), but the peace of mind is worth it.

[Pinner]

http://wt.xpilot.org/fun/mad_cows/

[Cornholio]

This has been said, but Good Times uses only Coleman beef too.

Also, isn't Chipotle owned by McDonalds?

Edit: It is owned in entirety, in fact.

Talk about successful branding!

(btw, so is Boston Market)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by iceman
Gonzo-

You can trust Whole Foods Markets, at least for beef and Chicken. Their beef is from Coleman Ranch and their chicken is from Bell and Evans.

I know both of those companies well and worked closely with them for a company that specialized in dealing with the USDA for meat and poultry producers. They were the first companies to receive permission to use "Organic" on their labeling, and the hoops they made these companies jump through were amazing. I probably know more about this industry than anyone on the board and I personally trust Coleman and Bell and Evans.

I buy my meat at Whole foods. It's a pain in the ass because you end up having to go to two grocery stores (Whole Foods sucks for things like paper towels, etc.), but the peace of mind is worth it.

kick ass! thanks dude!

[lemon boy]

yes, mickey d's owns a big chunk of Chipotle, that's why they're expanding so fast.

Of course the food is so much fucking better than a MDs that it is hard to imagine...

[Odin]

Chipotle sucks, Qdoba RULES!

[lemon boy]

BLECK! NO WAY HOSER!

Actually, if we're really gonna be serious - Illegal Pete's blows em both away.

[gonzo]

is illegal pete's the one that mixes the goods in a bowl before wrapping? there is one in boulder that does...that is the hottest burrito move around, IMO

[Odin]

Could someone please fedex me a big fajita steak burrito with black beans and the hottest hot sauce they have. I don't have any big burrito joints that can really compare up here. Although the halibut burrito at the Sitz and Humpys is DAMN tasty.

[lemon boy]

OI - That's the place, there's two in Boulder (hill and pear) and one on 16th here in D-town. Been going since they first opened


Odin- Sounds like a market opportunity son!

[PlayHarder]

I don't have any big burrito joints that can really compare up here.

My dream - figure out how to franchise the only thing Midland, Texas has going for it - JUMBORRITO. Oh yeah, 1 lb beef and bean dripping with green chile sauce.

[gonzo]

hey ice - can you define organic as whole foods uses it? does that include what they are fed and stuff?

[char]

Originally posted by gonzo
and tofu is gross

Eat tofu, destroy the rainforest. Just don't tell the hippies.

[Dantheman]

WTF?!? A thread openly soliciting recipies and no Kumquat in sight? This is highly disturbing.

[truth]

Originally posted by Odin
Although the halibut burrito at the Sitz and Humpys is DAMN tasty.

Mmmmmm...Humpy's halibut.

[iceman]

Originally posted by gonzo
hey ice - can you define organic as whole foods uses it? does that include what they are fed and stuff?

No hormones, no antibiotics, all-vegetable diet, tight controls on feed, etc. I don't have the current legalese definition right in front of me.

Check out colemanmeats.com

I can't remember what Bell & Evans' site is, but it talks about what they feed the chickens, too.

One thing I don't know for sure is whether Whole Foods uses Bell & Evans in all regions of the country. They are in PA, so that's what we get here. You might have to visit a store in your area (where are you now?) to see what brand they carry in your region.

[iceman]

BTW, although I haven't worked with USDA for a few years, I think they had a rules change (they do it all the time) basically making it impossible to call any meat product "Organic". So the meat industry now uses "Natural" which is another highly regulated term and means, basically, "really freaking close to organic".

[PlayHarder]

No hormones, no antibiotics, all-vegetable diet, tight controls on feed, etc. I don't have the current legalese definition right in front of me.

I'm not sure how different your rules on this might be compared to up north here, but I know when my aunt was trying to get her produce certified organic there was a pile of them. I know a big part of what she went through involved proximity to other agriculture, she needed to be far enough from any potential source of contamination to prevent leeching through the ground, even.

I guess all I know really know is that it is tough to be certified organic.