Cops chase Nobis

[baron]

at least they dropped him on his head ,instead of his knees....ouch

[rideit]

To anyone who thinks you can't get away from police in a car chase, should talk to some of the people I grew up with and did get away.
I did once in Syracuse. two cop cars, and two civilians were chasing me and a friend in a Dodge D50 (four banger-two wheel drive). They tried to box me in on the highway, I did a CRAZY-ass left hand lane change/severe braking just as we were passing an off ramp. I swerved hard right and made the exit, they were going too fast (60 or so). We drove deep into a neighborhood I knew...I found a pretty crowded parking lot, shut off the lights, and just sat tight. They drove right by us 20 minutes or so later, so me and my buddy sat in the truck and drank the six pack that we had 'stolen' from a grocery store...It was after 12:00, so they wouldn't sell it to us. We had no plan to do this, but for some reason, we both had the same idea at the same time....I threw a $10:00 bill on the register, and we both bolted out the door with the sixer of St. Pauli. Two guys from the store tried chasing us, then the cops found us all on the highway speeding...that is when I threw out the Starsky and Hutch clutch move. Totally got away with it.
Good god, that was so stupid, fun, exhilarating, and crazy....ahh, to be 20 again!

To be clear, the above is my story. I should have recognized then that I didn't drink like 'other people'.

Decent time sober now, best thing that ever happened to be (besides getting married).

I have emapthy for Nobis, but not sympathy for his action. Symapthy for the pain he is in psychically, sure.

[sftc]

See, normal people learn from their mistakes and change their behavior. I can't label Nobis an alcoholic. Only he can decide that for himself.

What I can say, as a recovering alcoholic myself, is that his behavior sounds alot like mine used to be. Most alcoholics don't care about anyone but themselves....

Well said Sir. I'm not cutting off the rest of your words because I don't agree with them, but this ^^^ is the meat of it all.

[beaterdit]

This is just sad. Dude needs to not drink. Ever. Glad no one got hurt.

[Long duc dong]

This is sad to hear.

For whatever reason, I have always been good about drinking and driving. Even back in college, I just did not do it. I always made a line in the sand, and did one or the other. If I was going to drink, I did not drive. I never went out, and had, say 3 beers, and got behind the wheel. My rule has always been that if I have more than one drink, I don't drive.

I have done plenty of dumb, drunk things, but for some reason I was always able to separate alcohol and driving. Some people don't seem able to do this. They are sometimes fine while sober, but then get behind the wheel after drinks have clouded their judgment. Some people think they won't be over .08 after 3 beers. They are usually wrong. I think many people get into trouble by deciding whether or not to drive based on how they feel. The decision should be based on number of drinks, not how you feel.

Some people can drive to a bar, and take a cab home. Others get behind the wheel, even if the plan had been to take a cab. Those people have to take an extra step: They need to take a cab TO the bars, as well as from the bars. If you can't trust yourself to say no to driving drunk, you need to leave the car at home.

I will echo what some have said, that most folks with multiple DUI's are not getting popped at exactly .08. They are not having 3 beers and driving home. They are usually people who are driving while well above the limit, and doing so regularly.

I wish Nobis the best of luck. I don't want to pass judgment, as I don't know the full story, but it seems like he might need to cut alcohol out of the equation. Getting one DUI SHOULD convince people to be super careful. If it does not, there might be a problem.

There are alcoholics, and there are problem drinkers. Some people fit into both categories, some only one.

[sftc]

I agree with the saying don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, but this is his 4th DUI since 1999 and at least the 2nd time he's tried to run from the cops- not cool.

[paj]

4 dui's is fuckin dumb. Coming from someone who got a dui in 2008. I never drink and drive anymore and nobody got hurt. It was a real shitty experience and something I will never go through again. Once should be more than enough for a rational person. Nobis is showing that he is immature and irrational as he apparently can't make smart decisions when he drinks. I really don't understand what goes through someone's mind when they have 3 prior dui's with other charges and still can't resist driving home and running from the cops. Were none of his friends there to stop him? Not passing judgement as I'm no where near perfect, but at some point it needs to stop. To get 4 dui's in 11 years he probably drives intoxicated pretty damn often. Thankfully no one has been hurt or killed. If he doesn't stop it's bound to happen. Best of luck to him and his dealings with the law. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Nobis and I hope he is able to overcome whatever is causing him to disregard the safety and well being of those around him and himself.

[Dubbs]

I have a very good friend who has had 2 DUIs. The first one was the dumb/standard DUI driving home from the bar. Everyone makes mistakes. I probably deserved one of those too.

For the second one we were having a going away party for another friend. We all stayed up late drinking (2-3am) and crashed. He got pulled for speeding on the way home the next morning (9-10am) and got a DUI. If he had stayed for breakfast or opted for that cigarette (covering up the beer smell) on the way home he probably would have walked. That is a raw deal, IMO. Guy does the right thing and spends the night and still gets popped on the way home. I guess he was still over the legal limit but it's not like he was raging it with open containers. Just heading home hungover. If anyone deserves sympathy for a DUI it's my friend, not someone who runs from the cops.

[baron]

my friends in Ca ,used to get the cops to chase them on purpose(in the 70's);all they needed was some LSD and a street bike......PEOPLE SURE LIKE TO JUDGE ON HERE;YOU INTERNET JUDGES SHOULD all SKI IN BLACK ROBES.......anything can happen when you crack a bottle,even shit

[doughboyshredder]

I have a very good friend who has had 2 DUIs. The first one was the dumb/standard DUI driving home from the bar. Everyone makes mistakes. I probably deserved one of those too.

For the second one we were having a going away party for another friend. We all stayed up late drinking (2-3am) and crashed. He got pulled for speeding on the way home the next morning (9-10am) and got a DUI. If he had stayed for breakfast or opted for that cigarette (covering up the beer smell) on the way home he probably would have walked. That is a raw deal, IMO. Guy does the right thing and spends the night and still gets popped on the way home. I guess he was still over the legal limit but it's not like he was raging it with open containers. Just heading home hungover. If anyone deserves sympathy for a DUI it's my friend, not someone who runs from the cops.

Bullshit. Driving drunk is driving drunk. It doesn't matter if he slept for a few hours before getting in a vehicle. Hungover to the point that you blow dirty is still drunk. NO sympathy deserved AT ALL.

Again, I've been guilty of the same thing many times. Also, who's to say he didn't sneak in a hair of the dog before going home.

[snomaster]

this latest incident happened while he was driving to the party, not home.

[Meanfruit]

This subject has been gone over a hundred times here on TGR, plus countless times in other media, and well meaning people still defend drinking and driving like it's a fuzzy area socially, or an ambiguous moral decision. Drinking, then getting behind the wheel is childish, stupid, and DUH, dangerous. Repeat offenders deserve serious jail time to limit the public's exposure to them, plus mandatory therapy. If you wanted to really be a twat about it, you could deem those with multiple convictions for DWI habitual, and dangerous offenders, and have them locked up until a judge rules them fit to re enter society.

Bet you'd see a lot more drinkers taking public transportation, or riding bikes.

[Pinner]

I wonder how many times he's run from the cops and got away with it?

[satori]

I doubt many people would say poor guy if he was a non skier - probably more like stupid fuck. Jeremy is an amazing skier, but the guy needs help, needs to lose his license, and needs to go to rehab. Maybe then he'll finally be able to grow up - or at least learn to call a cab. I wish him all the luck in recovering - people can do it, but only when they make the decision.

Would love to see him getting some segments again - damn he killed it!

[Long duc dong]

...anything can happen when you crack a bottle,even shit

What do you mean by that?

Are you implying that sometimes things happen, and there is nothing you can do?

If so, I don't buy it. I have spent plenty of my life hammered, but I don't drive drunk. I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect people to have enough sense to not get behind the wheel.

If someone drinks to the point that they get behind the wheel regularly, that is an indication that maybe said person should not drink. If you have so little control of your behavior when drunk that you can't stop yourself from driving, then you need to stop drinking.

I know plenty of people that like to get obliterated. But they tend to be smart enough not to get behind the wheel, no matter how drunk they get. I don't think that is too much to ask.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Unfortunately it takes some people a long time to hit the bottom hard enough to realize they need to put the bottle down. I am gonna assume that this being his 4th DUI he will have to do some mandatory time. Hopefully he gets 12th stepped, and realizes its life or death. Seriously, he is gonna kill himself, someone else, or both if the man keeps drinking.

Again, I can't say he is really an alcoholic or not, but it sure looks that way.

What alot of people don't understand is that you don't HAVE to be drinking all day everyday to be an alchy. Plenty of alchys can only drink on weekends or take a month off every now and then, but when they do drink they get fucking HAMMERED.

I know cause I am one of those people. I haven't drank in over a year and a half, and its not like I struggle to not drink, but I know that if I had one beer there would be no way for me to stop until I passed out or died.

I hope Jeremy the best. Dude has some serious talent that he is pissing away.

[4matic]

EDIT: do you know for sure that he blew .08? Sometimes they'll list it that way if you blow anything over .08 so it might have been 0.8

He's likely on zero tolerance after multiple DUI so any trace of alcohol and he goes down.

[stevemayer]

Jeremy has made news twice this week.... http://www.whitedotusa.com/news.php

[Helicrackjnky]

Fact of the matter he is sick, he has been sick with the disease of alcholism for many years. Many of us have reached out to him but he continues to not take the hands that have been offered him, these hands are still there if he wants them, but he is the only one who can make the decision to do what ever it takes to get sober. His way does not work & never will work. Hopefully this is his bottom,otherwise it is only going to get worse for him.
I made the the decision to get sober 6.5 years ago, was it easy? Yes & No, but it is the best decision I have ever made for myself. Accepting a sober lifestyle was the hard part, now living a sober lifestyle is the easy part.

[jipstyle]

oh well, I understood. I prefer idiot savant..

Well, you're halfway there!

[Lindahl]

... or riding bikes.

... for which you can also get a DUI.

[skew]

Glass is half full. The good news about alcoholism is that it is 100% curable. I'm not saying it's easy. It's not. Hopefully this guy comes to the realization that he has a choice.

People who drive with a BAC over the legal limit are the Webster's definition of an asshole. There is absolutely no excuse and they 100% deserve whatever is coming their way.

[Dubbs]

Bullshit. Driving drunk is driving drunk. It doesn't matter if he slept for a few hours before getting in a vehicle. Hungover to the point that you blow dirty is still drunk. NO sympathy deserved AT ALL.

Again, I've been guilty of the same thing many times. Also, who's to say he didn't sneak in a hair of the dog before going home.

Dude. He didn't sneak in a hair of the dog on the way home. He partied with his friends, crashed out on the couch, and drove home the next morning. He was doing the right thing but obviously he didn't wait quite long enough. If I remember he was just barely over the legal limit.

You are very high and mighty for someone who states you've been guilty of this very act many times. Yes, driving drunk is driving drunk, but you have to admit it was a raw deal. Does he really deserve NO sympathy AT ALL? And if you really feel that strongly maybe you should go down to the local cop stand and confess to your many drunken driving adventures and the fact you used to smoke the cheebs like it was your job.

[doughboyshredder]

Dude. He didn't sneak in a hair of the dog on the way home. He partied with his friends, crashed out on the couch, and drove home the next morning. He was doing the right thing but obviously he didn't wait quite long enough. If I remember he was just barely over the legal limit.

You are very high and mighty for someone who states you've been guilty of this very act many times. Yes, driving drunk is driving drunk, but you have to admit it was a raw deal. Does he really deserve NO sympathy AT ALL? And if you really feel that strongly maybe you should go down to the local cop stand and confess to your many drunken driving adventures and the fact you used to smoke the cheebs like it was your job.

Not a raw deal at all. He was drunk. Doesn't matter that he slept for a while.

Not high and mighty at all, just pointing out the fact that he was still drunk. Around here they run ads warning against doing exactly what your friend did. If you get trashed until 3 am and then sleep for a few hours you are NOT sober the next morning, and if you decide to drive you are NOT doing the right thing.

[cmsummit]

It sucks to see this thread that I created 5.5 years ago, get bumped again.