Utah Beer Myths

[Bud Green]

The cheapest beers to buy in UT are:

Sierra Nevada. $7.50 per 6pack.

Full Sail: $7.20 per 6pack.

Lev: $1.85 per bottle (17 oz.)

Spaten: $2.15 per bottle. (17 oz.)

Most states charge tax and have bottle deposits, but in UT, that's included in the listed prices. I challenge anyone to find Sierra Nevada cheaper in WY.

BTW, for alchohol by volume, multiply by .8 and you'll have alchohol by weight. So the Full Sail IPA I'm drinking right now says 6% by volume but it's 4.8% by weight, which is a little more than UT 3.2.

[72Twenty]

I challenge anyone to find Sierra Nevada cheaper in WY.

It's $5.99 at Northridge Liquors in Laramie, Wyoming. Cold.

Baddabing!

[Bud Green]

After tax and deposit how much is it?

I mostly stay in Western WY: Jackson and Lander and Evingston. It's cheaper in UT than those places.

There are also some liquor stores in UT that sell cold beer: Coalville and Monticello to name 2.

[72Twenty]

After tax and deposit how much is it?

I mostly stay in Western WY: Jackson and Lander and Evingston. It's cheaper in UT than those places.

I don't know about tax and deposit. Like, the sign says $5.99 and when they ring it up at the register it comes out to $6 something. I used to buy a pack of smokes or a can of chew too and it always stayed under $10. I could write my congressman for an explination if you'd like.

[leroy jenkins]

I'm checking into rehab if I ever drive more than 4 blocks for beer.

If I ever drive four blocks I'm going to kick my own ass for being a lazy sack of shit.



Well, unless its raining, or I have to carry something, or maybe if I'm just really tired that day... oh who am I kidding, I am a lazy sack of shit.

[The AD]

Most states charge tax and have bottle deposits, but in UT, that's included in the listed prices. I challenge anyone to find Sierra Nevada cheaper in WY.

Not WY, but I just bought two six-packs of Deschutes beers (Mirror Pond and Quail Springs) at Fred Meyer in Seattle for $5.99 each. With 8.8% sales tax that comes out to $6.52. There's no deposit here. But, you're right, those Utah prices aren't bad for the SN and Full Sail.

[KennyG]

Couple of things - I always love a good alcohol thread - especially when it involves the law (kind of go together often)

First off it costs you about $10 in gas (if you get ~20mpg) to go to Wyoming.
Throw in 3 hours time at $13.33 an hour and your at $50.

If there is a full 50% mark up it's pretty easy to see how quickly you could make that up. I personally own a kegerator and they can easily last 30 when tapped properly a keg can last rather well for upwards of 45 days and 145+ days if you store it properly. The way I see it you do this:

Drive to WY and get 3-5 kegs - what ever you feel you will drink in 4 months. I will assume WY has about the same Liquor Prices as Indiana and you can get a cheap keg for $55, AB/Miller for $65, import (molson/sam seasonal, Killians etc) $80, Premo Import (Guiness, Corona, New Castle) for $110. Throw in deposit on the barrel and your looking at anywhere from 180 - 500.
Sounds like a lot, but your not going to make this trip for average people - if you really don't care about 3.2 or giving the church so much money - be my guest (even though the math holds out at just one keg)

1 keg is 7.5 cases of beer. that's 30 six packs.

If six packs really are about 10 bucks in UT you are stupid (if you can polish a keg in 45 days - easier than it sounds if you don't live alone) not to go to WY.


Also first off before you do anything involving transport make sure you read your local transport laws and watch the film by the ACLU called 'BUSTED' very helpful in defusing police.

Also something I thought of you could tell the cops. Seing as how it is perfectly legal to transport through the state as long as it's not supposed to be consumed there.... 'XGROUP and I are headed down for a week long camping session in Northern Arizona. The closest place that sold X beer was flagstaff. This is perfectly believeable as long as you aren't talking about drinking budweiser. We thought it would be better to drive an extra 150 miles than an extra 300.' The cop really can't do anything. He's not going to escort you 500+ miles through Utah! Everything else is just variation on a theme.

People pay $50 to shop at Sams Club and get a 6% discount for buying in bulk. Why not pay $50 twice a year to get a 25% discount for doing the same thing? The math does pay out on driving to WY it's rather obvious. Also to the guy who talked about driving more than 4 blocks for a beer being that you needed recovery. If you really enjoy it, you will go to great lengths to get what you want... not just a random substitute. I haven't met too many alcoholics that have said - to hell with this OE 40 I want IPA. It's when I stop caring about my beer that I know I need help.

Also let it be said that I am 22, I am in college, and I do live with 3 other guys - it's not hard to go through a keg, at least for us.

[whatcomridaz]

That's the problem with America, How the fuck can you be in college and not drinking OE!!!. Your assignment for tonight is Edward 40 hands


Get Busy


Oh yeah I think the real myth is having beer in Utah. Damn Morons

Couple of things - I always love a good alcohol thread - especially when it involves the law (kind of go together often)

First off it costs you about $10 in gas (if you get ~20mpg) to go to Wyoming.
Throw in 3 hours time at $13.33 an hour and your at $50.

If there is a full 50% mark up it's pretty easy to see how quickly you could make that up. I personally own a kegerator and they can easily last 30 when tapped properly a keg can last rather well for upwards of 45 days and 145+ days if you store it properly. The way I see it you do this:

Drive to WY and get 3-5 kegs - what ever you feel you will drink in 4 months. I will assume WY has about the same Liquor Prices as Indiana and you can get a cheap keg for $55, AB/Miller for $65, import (molson/sam seasonal, Killians etc) $80, Premo Import (Guiness, Corona, New Castle) for $110. Throw in deposit on the barrel and your looking at anywhere from 180 - 500.
Sounds like a lot, but your not going to make this trip for average people - if you really don't care about 3.2 or giving the church so much money - be my guest (even though the math holds out at just one keg)

1 keg is 7.5 cases of beer. that's 30 six packs.

If six packs really are about 10 bucks in UT you are stupid (if you can polish a keg in 45 days - easier than it sounds if you don't live alone) not to go to WY.


Also first off before you do anything involving transport make sure you read your local transport laws and watch the film by the ACLU called 'BUSTED' very helpful in defusing police.

Also something I thought of you could tell the cops. Seing as how it is perfectly legal to transport through the state as long as it's not supposed to be consumed there.... 'XGROUP and I are headed down for a week long camping session in Northern Arizona. The closest place that sold X beer was flagstaff. This is perfectly believeable as long as you aren't talking about drinking budweiser. We thought it would be better to drive an extra 150 miles than an extra 300.' The cop really can't do anything. He's not going to escort you 500+ miles through Utah! Everything else is just variation on a theme.

People pay $50 to shop at Sams Club and get a 6% discount for buying in bulk. Why not pay $50 twice a year to get a 25% discount for doing the same thing? The math does pay out on driving to WY it's rather obvious. Also to the guy who talked about driving more than 4 blocks for a beer being that you needed recovery. If you really enjoy it, you will go to great lengths to get what you want... not just a random substitute. I haven't met too many alcoholics that have said - to hell with this OE 40 I want IPA. It's when I stop caring about my beer that I know I need help.

Also let it be said that I am 22, I am in college, and I do live with 3 other guys - it's not hard to go through a keg, at least for us.

[mtbakerskier]

As far as I know, bringing in any amount from out-of-state is illegal.

That wouldnt stand up in court long, as Federal law prohibits any state from inacting any law that interferes with inter-state comerce.

Fuck Utah, the snow there is too fucking light, the beer is weak and there is too many fucking mormons. Not exactly high on my must hit destination list.

[Trackhead]

there is too many fucking mormons. .

They do like to do that. Can't blame 'em for that.

[Egon]

Getting it into Cougar Stadium is a different story.

But serously, what do they allow?

Getting into cougar stadium is suprisingly easy. Just bring a nice flask, or fill some mini bar bottles, wear a heavy coat. Buy soda, raise hell.

Also there are almost zero porto-pots in the parking lots if you're going to tailgate. So finding some bushes where the girlfriend/wife can go is pretty big. I prefer to just piss on the basketball stadium.

[Professor]

That wouldnt stand up in court long, as Federal law prohibits any state from inacting any law that interferes with inter-state comerce.

Fuck Utah, the snow there is too fucking light, the beer is weak and there is too many fucking mormons. Not exactly high on my must hit destination list.

Inter-state commerce does not cover bootlegging which is what this is (insert "Smokey and the Bandit" theme). Not saying dont do it, just dont expect the Constitution to protect you. States have the right to govern alchohol consumption within their borders. However, some of these issues are currently being challenged by things like "beer of the month" clubs that want to ship to all states. Currently it is illegal to ship these types of things into Utah. Same with buying from wine brokers. But as far as I am concerned, if these things make people want to stay away from Utah, then I think they are great

[Cyber Cop]

But as far as I am concerned, if these things make people want to stay away from Utah, then I think they are great

You know, I will be perfectly willing to stay out of Utah if you will keep your pre-pubescent white shirt clad holy roller off my fucking door-step. Fair enough?

[rideit]

They do like to do that. Can't blame 'em for that.

I dunno...a lot of the ones see anywhere other than the canyons are cows...but I guess some folks like that...

[Professor]

You know, I will be perfectly willing to stay out of Utah if you will keep your pre-pubescent white shirt clad holy roller off my fucking door-step. Fair enough?

I guarantee I had nothing to do with sending "Elder (insert last name here)" to your house or anyone elses house for that matter

[MacDaddy]

Man I love this thread, but not as much as I love good beer! (OK I'm a fuking beer snob)

Unfortunately I'm on my Lenten abstinence, so all this beer talk and the smooth chill vibe music I am listening to at the moment is making me thirsty.

Nice little formula Kenny G! I like it. I think for Easter I'm going to make a Wyoming Keg run just to put my little CA DL theory to test. I plan on being prepared in case I get spotted and nabbed for my little boot leg run into WY.

KennyG what is this ACLU production you speak of? Is it in transcript form or other? Where might it be available for an upstanding citizen like my self?

[Cyber Cop]

I guarantee I had nothing to do with sending "Elder (insert last name here)" to your house or anyone elses house for that matter

Well, then what you got to trade. Deliver 12 virgins to the boarder or were sending in the hoards. And their fully loaded.

[72Twenty]

Getting into cougar stadium is suprisingly easy. Just bring a nice flask, or fill some mini bar bottles, wear a heavy coat. Buy soda, raise hell.

Also there are almost zero porto-pots in the parking lots if you're going to tailgate. So finding some bushes where the girlfriend/wife can go is pretty big. I prefer to just piss on the basketball stadium.

Heh, last time I went to a game there, it was funny. All these Wyoming fans (at least a couple hundred) were walking in somewhat of a group towards our section of the stands, and it was like the parting of the seas. All the BYU fans just stopped and got the hell out of our way. It was pretty cool! A fellow fan was pissed off cause he couldn't even get a coffee there. No Pepsi/Coke. Had to get something without caffeine. It was just funny watching him try order after order, it really blew his mind... "What?!?!?!? No @#$%&#@ COFFEE!??!??!?!?!??!" (It was an evening game and it was cold.)

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Back to the beer thing...

Do you think the Utah cops watch people heading into Evanston and wait to see if you are there for a small amount of time and on your way back when they try and nab you?

[MacDaddy]

Do you think the Utah cops watch people heading into Evanston and wait to see if you are there for a small amount of time and on your way back when they try and nab you?

Yes I think they do that and they have a stinkin paid rat on the other side as well!

[Professor]

Do you think the Utah cops watch people heading into Evanston and wait to see if you are there for a small amount of time and on your way back when they try and nab you?

YES! They stand on the hill with binoculars and write down UT license plate numbers at the liquor store on the edge of town. No, I am not joking.

[PaSucks]

Yes I think they do that and they have a stinkin paid rat on the other side as well!

You need a decoy to counteract this. Send someone in first with a pickup, bed empty. Once at the beer store, buy keg, put in trunk of second car or van or whatever. Put something in the bed of the truck that looks like a keg, and cover it with a tarp. Be creative. Maybe some manure or some other legal but disgusting object to fuck with the cops. Have truck go back and see if he gets pulled over.

[MacDaddy]

Actually I was thinking I would have some one ( local friend) "pre purchase" the keg then I would pick it up at their house or specified location.

[Buzzworthy]

The only reason you can't get New Belgium beers in Utah is because the liquor stores here don't refrigerate the beer. That's the word I got straight from the NB brewery.

That said, I don't really bother with buying beer at the sliquor stores here. Since none of the beer is refrigerated, most of it is spoiled. And with 4% available at the grocery store...fuck it, I'll just drink that.

New Belgium can be bought in Idaho at La Tienda and they leave it out as well. They put in the walk in as needed. It is never spoiled, trust me. Not sure what NB is talking about. The way they brew their beer, it won't spoil for many many months.

I buy from La Tienda, out of state (a whopping 4 miles each way) for canned crap and Utah Liq store for Sierra Nevada, a 5.6 % pale ale for 1.25 a bottle, $30 a case. Steep, yes, best beer/alcohol % for your money in Utah, yes.

How can you say most of it is spoiled? I have/do brew beer and that makes no sense from what I know.

And I am with Mac, give me a Utah Natty Light, Bud Light or Sliver Bullet vs. normal states and I too can tell the difference spot on. Like the article said up top, they add water to comply. Easily to taste.


That said, when I lived in Ogden last year I would just drink the Utah stuff. Too far to go for another 1 %.

[edg]

Did ya know that 1.6% of the population of Palau are LDS?

edg

[MacDaddy]

New Belgium can be bought in Idaho at La Tienda and they leave it out as well. They put in the walk in as needed.
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Buzz not so sure that you both are wrong or right for that matter.

I think that SB is highlighting a QC standard inherent w/ the NB brewery. My take is that the Idaho distribution house that sells to La Tienda doesn't give a shit because its much lower volume- than selling pallets of product to a state where a bottle could sit for months in the heat and certainly spoil.

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