The Red Scare continues.

**seatosky** · 02-27-2006, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by MeatPuppet

Here is where it gets tricky though. How far back do you extend "personhood"? You could say it starts at viability, but that is arbitrary because viability is largly a matter of technology. What is viable today was not 20 years ago, what is not viable today might be in 20 years; so you get a moving goal post. That seems like a nightmare waiting to happen and bad law.

Indeed. One could easily stretch it as far as saying each individual sperm is 'viable'. Meaning that every time you flush that tissue or condom, you're killing millions.

**Blurred** · 02-27-2006, 10:21 PM

When this thread drops off the front page, lets discuss gun rights and the war in Iraq, cuz that shit never gets old.

**summit** · 02-27-2006, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by seatosky

Indeed. One could easily stretch it as far as saying each individual sperm is 'viable'. Meaning that every time you flush that tissue or condom, you're killing millions.

"Wasting the seed":

You can only be charged with a murder or two a month... remember you are only supposed to have sex with your wife and she is only going to ovulate once a month unless you got her on crazy fertility drugs.

See my post on the Page 4

**Below Zero** · 02-27-2006, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

When this thread drops off the front page, lets discuss gun rights and the war in Iraq, cuz that shit never gets old.

Can I get three soft tacos, a chilito, and ah.......

**Blurred** · 02-27-2006, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Below Zero

Can I get three soft tacos, a chilito, and ah.......

Dude, Shera cooked me the BEST tacos tonight. Soooo fucking good. Really. Shera,

**MeatPuppet** · 02-27-2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by seatosky

Indeed. One could easily stretch it as far as saying each individual sperm is 'viable'. Meaning that every time you flush that tissue or condom, you're killing millions.

hehehe, a particular Monty Python movie comes to mind

**Below Zero** · 02-27-2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

Dude, Shera cooked me the BEST tacos tonight. Soooo fucking good. Really. Shera,

Dude, I'll be there in an hour for some tacos!

**joshbu** · 02-27-2006, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

When this thread drops off the front page, lets discuss gun rights and the war in Iraq, cuz that shit never gets old.

B11s = voice of reason? What the hell is this world coming to?

**MeatPuppet** · 02-27-2006, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by MeatPuppet

hehehe, a particular Monty Python movie comes to mind

Every sperm is sacred - Monty Python
There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists,
There are Hindus and Mormons and then,
There are those that follow Mohammed,
But I've never been one of them...

I'm a Roman Catholic, and have been since the day I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics,
Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...

You don't have to be a six-footer,
You don't have to have a great brain,
You don't have to have any clothes on -
You're a Catholic the moment dad came...

because...

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs, on the dusty ground,
God shall make them pay for each sperm that can't be found

Every sperm is wanted, every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed,
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is useful, every sperm is fine,
God needs everybody's,
Mine
And mine
And mine

Let the Pagan spill theirs,
O'er mountain, hill and plain,
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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**Cyber Cop** · 02-27-2006, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

When this thread drops off the front page, lets discuss gun rights and the war in Iraq, cuz that shit never gets old.

this from a guy with 5000 posts about what exactly? Dude I'm sure it's all deja vu by now.

Attachment 10767

**Blurred** · 02-27-2006, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cyber Cop

Dude I'm sure it's all deja vu by now.

Deja Vu-The illusion of having already experienced something actually being experienced for the first time.

SEARCH FUNCTION JONG!

**Cyber Cop** · 02-27-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

SEARCH FUNCTION JONG!

Funny, you never seem to tire of this amazingly fresh little tidbit. Jong! Just 5000 more times and it will finally be funny.

**whatcomridaz** · 02-27-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by MassLiberal

It also just seems so hypocritical. To take a line from the family guy:

Abortion: That's the only way conservatives don't like to kill people.

you forgot about euthenasia

**garwhal** · 02-27-2006, 11:23 PM

I am just a unfrozen caveman lawyer. I ponder over things like how they keep the fire from flickering inside of the light buld above my computer screen. When I recieve a fax I sometimes wonder if little demons are inside of the machine typing the letters onto the page. Your world confuses me. But I do know this, when a state passes a blatantly unconstitutional law like this we can pray that the Circuit Court holds it unconstitutional and the Supreme Court denies certoriari to save face.

**Magnoe** · 02-27-2006, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by garwhal

I am just a unfrozen caveman lawyer. I ponder over things like how they keep the fire from flickering inside of the light buld above my computer screen. When I recieve a fax I sometimes wonder if little demons are inside of the machine typing the letters onto the page. Your world confuses me. But I do know this, when a state passes a blatantly unconstitutional law like this we can pray that the Circuit Court holds it unconstitutional and the Supreme Court denies certoriari to save face.

Keyrock's words are just as true today as they were in his time. The court allows allows a full hearing. Did you hear that Keyrock... keyrock?

(Keyrock) I'm sorry, I was listening to all those little spirit voices in this phone.

**runethechamp** · 02-27-2006, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Schmear

I'm no expert either, rune. But I can easily imagine the choice, for many, coming down to this: am I willing to endure several days or weeks of physical hell in exchange for not interrupting the life I enjoy, especially if I got to this place by mistake?

It doesn't take a particularly shrewd person to answer "yes," especially if that person realizes just how life-changing parenting is.

Yes, but then that's a decision made after the fact that the woman got pregnant. I just don't think anyone would say that prevention doesn't matter because they can just have an abortion afterwards if something goes wrong.

**MassLiberal** · 02-28-2006, 06:23 AM

Yes, and that's why conservatives don't want to teach kids about contraception, and embrace abstinence only education.

once again, the right wing makes no sense.

**Cono Este** · 02-28-2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by MassLiberal

Yes, and that's why conservatives don't want to teach kids about contraception, and embrace abstinence only education.

once again, the right wing makes no sense.

Dude, you are painting some pretty Broad strokes with that brush. If you are referring to all degrees of conservatives then i would say your statement is not accurate of the majority. Shit, most of you have proabaly labeled me a neocon by now, but i am actually against the death penalty, pro choice, and pro legalization.

**gincognito** · 02-28-2006, 08:25 AM

Sterilize the population.

Offer fertility drugs to those who actually want to get pregnant.

Problem solved.

Sick and ashamed and happy (or go with Kurt Vonnegut's "Welcome to the Monkeyhouse" (but that wouldn't be as fun)),
d.

**Tippster** · 02-28-2006, 08:26 AM

Fine, then distribute free condoms in High Schools.

Didn't think so.

**MassLiberal** · 02-28-2006, 08:31 AM

Cono Este:

I definintely have not labeled you as a neocon. In fact, I find that we tend to agree on a fair number of things.

But presently, the far right has taken control of the Republican party, and they tend to preach abstinence only education, outright banning of abortion, and restrictions on access to birth control, which, in my opinion, is the most ignorant and irresponsible trifecta there can possibly be in ANY society. Just wishing that children remain celibate doesn't necessarily make it so.

**The Dad** · 02-28-2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Tippster

Fine, then distribute free condoms in High Schools.

Didn't think so.

Then you thought wrong. I, for one, am decidedly pro.

**Tippster** · 02-28-2006, 11:28 AM

Not you, bro -- the SD Legislature.

**cj001f** · 02-28-2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Tippster

Not you, bro -- the SD Legislature.

abstintance is perfect birth control, and the perfect birth control system. Their's just no functioning abstinance only birth control country because nobody's implemented one yet. It's not the system, it's the implementation

**Tippster** · 02-28-2006, 11:40 AM

And, seeing it goes against the most fundamental urge in nature besides eating and breathing, I don't hold high hopes for success.

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