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    Interesting Endurance Article (Very Long)

    The endurance guys on the board might find this most interesting, but a good read for all nonetheless. A word of caution, the article is very long. (3 parts)

    That Which Does Not Kill Me Makes Me Stranger
    By DANIEL COYLE

    Jure Robic, the Slovene soldier who might be the world's best
    ultra-endurance athlete, lives in a small fifth-floor apartment near the
    railroad tracks in the town of Koroska Bela. By nature and vocation, Robic
    is a sober-minded person, but when he appears at his doorway, he is smiling.
    Not a standard-issue smile, but a wild and fidgety grin, as if he were
    trying to contain some huge and mysterious secret.

    Robic catches himself, strides inside and proceeds to lead a swift tour of
    his spare, well-kept apartment. Here is his kitchen. Here is his bike. Here
    are his wife, Petra, and year-old son, Nal. Here, on the coffee table, are
    whiskey, Jägermeister, bread, chocolate, prosciutto and an inky,
    vegetable-based soft drink he calls Communist Coca-Cola, left over from the
    old days. And here, outside the window, veiled by the nightly ice fog, stand
    the Alps and the Austrian border. Robic shows everything, then settles onto
    the couch. It's only then that the smile reappears, more nervous this time,
    as he pulls out a DVD and prepares to reveal the unique talent that sets him
    apart from the rest of the world: his insanity.

    Tonight, Robic's insanity exists only in digitally recorded form, but the
    rest of the time it swirls moodily around him, his personal batch of ice
    fog. Citizens of Slovenia, a tiny, sports-happy country that was part of the
    former Yugoslavia until 1991, might glow with beatific pride at the success
    of their ski jumpers and handballers, but they tend to become a touch
    unsettled when discussing Robic, who for the past two years has dominated
    ultracycling's hardest, longest races. They are proud of their man,
    certainly, and the way he can ride thousands of miles with barely a rest.
    But they're also a little, well, concerned. Friends and colleagues tend to
    sidle together out of Robic's earshot and whisper in urgent,
    hospital-corridor tones.

    ''He pushes himself into madness,'' says Tomaz Kovsca, a journalist for
    Slovene television. ''He pushes too far.'' Rajko Petek, a 35-year-old fellow
    soldier and friend who is on Robic's support crew, says: ''What Jure does is
    frightening. Sometimes during races he gets off his bike and walks toward us
    in the follow car, very angry.''

    What do you do then?

    Petek glances carefully at Robic, standing a few yards off. ''We lock the
    doors,'' he whispers.

    When he overhears, Robic heartily dismisses their unease. ''They are
    joking!'' he shouts. ''Joking!'' But in quieter moments, he acknowledges
    their concern, even empathizes with it — though he's quick to assert that
    nothing can be done to fix the problem. Robic seems to regard his racetime
    bouts with mental instability as one might regard a beloved but unruly pet:
    awkward and embarrassing at times, but impossible to live without.
    ''During race, I am going crazy, definitely,'' he says, smiling in bemused
    despair. ''I cannot explain why is that, but it is true.''

    The craziness is methodical, however, and Robic and his crew know its
    pattern by heart. Around Day 2 of a typical weeklong race, his speech goes
    staccato. By Day 3, he is belligerent and sometimes paranoid. His short-term
    memory vanishes, and he weeps uncontrollably. The last days are marked by
    hallucinations: bears, wolves and aliens prowl the roadside; asphalt cracks
    rearrange themselves into coded messages. Occasionally, Robic leaps from his
    bike to square off with shadowy figures that turn out to be mailboxes. In a
    2004 race, he turned to see himself pursued by a howling band of
    black-bearded men on horseback.

    ''Mujahedeen, shooting at me,'' he explains. ''So I ride faster.''

    His wife, a nurse, interjects: ''The first time I went to a race, I was not
    prepared to see what happens to his mind. We nearly split up.''

    The DVD spins, and the room vibrates with Wagner. We see a series of surreal
    images that combine violence with eerie placidity, like a Kubrick film.
    Robic's spotlit figure rides through the dark in the driving rain. Robic
    gasps some unheard plea to a stone-faced man in fatigues who's identified as
    his crew chief. Robic curls fetuslike on the pavement of a Pyrenean mountain
    road, having fallen asleep and simply tipped off his bike. Robic stalks the
    crossroads of a nameless French village at midnight, flailing his arms,
    screaming at his support crew. A baffled gendarme hurries to the scene,
    asking, Quel est le problème? I glance at Robic, and he's staring at the
    screen, too.

    ''In race, everything inside me comes out,'' he says, shrugging. ''Good,
    bad, everything. My mind, it begins to do things on its own. I do not like
    it, but this is the way I must go to win the race.''

    Over the past two years, Robic, who is 40 years old, has won almost every
    race he has entered, including the last two editions of ultracycling's
    biggest event, the 3,000-mile Insight Race Across America (RAAM). In 2004,
    Robic set a world record in the 24-hour time trial by covering 518.7 miles.
    Last year, he did himself one better, following up his RAAM victory with a
    victory six weeks later in Le Tour Direct, a 2,500-mile race on a course
    contrived from classic Tour de France routes. Robic finished in 7 days and
    19 hours, and climbed some 140,000 feet, the equivalent of nearly five trips
    up Mount Everest. ''That's just mind-boggling,'' says Pete Penseyres, a
    two-time RAAM solo champion. ''I can't envision doing two big races back to
    back. The mental part is just too hard.''

    Hans Mauritz, the co-organizer of Le Tour Direct, says: ''For me, Jure is on
    another planet. He can die on the bike and keep going.''

    And going. In addition to races, Robic trains 335 days each year, logging
    some 28,000 miles, or roughly one trip around the planet.

    Yet Robic does not excel on physical talent alone. He is not always the
    fastest competitor (he often makes up ground by sleeping 90 minutes or less
    a day), nor does he possess any towering physiological gift. On rare
    occasions when he permits himself to be tested in a laboratory, his ability
    to produce power and transport oxygen ranks on a par with those of many
    other ultra-endurance athletes. He wins for the most fundamental of reasons:
    he refuses to stop.

    In a consideration of Robic, three facts are clear: he is nearly
    indefatigable, he is occasionally nuts, and the first two facts are somehow
    connected. The question is, How? Does he lose sanity because he pushes
    himself too far, or does he push himself too far because he loses sanity?
    Robic is the latest and perhaps most intriguing embodiment of the old
    questions: What happens when the human body is pushed to the limits of its
    endurance? Where does the breaking point lie? And what happens when you
    cross the line?

    The Insight Race Across America was not designed by overcurious
    physiologists, but it might as well have been. It's the world's longest
    human-powered race, a coast-to-coast haul from San Diego to Atlantic City.
    Typically, two dozen or so riders compete in the solo categories.

    Compared with the three-week, 2,200-mile Tour de France, which is generally
    acknowledged to be the world's most demanding event, RAAM requires
    relatively low power outputs — a contest of diesel engines as opposed to
    Ferraris. But RAAM's unceasing nature and epic length — 800 miles more than
    the Tour in roughly a third of the time — makes it in some ways a purer
    test, if only because it more closely resembles a giant lab experiment. (An
    experiment that will get more interesting if Lance Armstrong, the seven-time
    Tour winner, gives RAAM a try, as he has hinted he might.)

    Winners average more than 13 miles an hour and finish in nine days, riding
    about 350 miles a day. The ones to watch, though, are not the victors but
    the 50 percent who do not finish, and whose breakdowns, like a scattering of
    so many piston rods and hubcaps, provide a vivid map of the human body's
    built-in limitations.

    The first breakdowns, in the California and Arizona deserts, tend to be
    related to heat and hydration (riders drink as much as a liter of water per
    hour during the race). Then, around the Plains states, comes the stomach
    trouble. Digestive tracts, overloaded by the strain of processing 10,000
    calories a day (the equivalent of 29 cheeseburgers), go haywire. This is
    usually accompanied by a wave of structural problems: muscles and tendons
    weaken, or simply give out. Body-bike contact points are especially
    vulnerable. Feet swell two sizes, on average. Thumb nerves, compressed on
    the handlebars, stop functioning. For several weeks after the race, Robic,
    like a lot of RAAM riders, must use two hands to turn a key. (Don't even ask
    about the derrière. When I did, Robic pantomimed placing a gun in his mouth
    and pulling the trigger.)

    The final collapse takes place between the ears. Competitors endure
    fatigue-induced rounds of hallucinations and mood shifts. Margins for error
    in the race can be slim, a point underlined by two fatal accidents at RAAM
    in the past three years, both involving automobiles. Support crews, which
    ride along in follow cars or campers, do what they can to help. For Robic,
    his support crew serves as a second brain, consisting of a well-drilled
    cadre of a half-dozen fellow Slovene soldiers. It resembles other crews in
    that it feeds, hydrates, guides and motivates — but with an important
    distinction. The second brain, not Robic's, is in charge.

    ''By the third day, we are Jure's software,'' says Lt. Miran Stanovnik,
    Robic's crew chief. ''He is the hardware, going down the road.''
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    Stanovnik, at 41, emanates the cowboy charisma of a special-ops soldier,
    though he isn't one: his background consists most notably of riding the
    famously grueling Paris-to-Dakar rally on his motorcycle. But he's
    impressively alpha nonetheless, referring to a recent crash in which he
    broke ribs, fractured vertebrae and ruptured his spleen as ''my small
    tumble.''

    His system is straightforward. During the race, Robic's brain is allowed
    control over choice of music (usually a mix of traditional Slovene marches
    and Lenny Kravitz), food selection and bathroom breaks. The second brain
    dictates everything else, including rest times, meal times, food amounts and
    even average speed. Unless Robic asks, he is not informed of the remaining
    mileage or even how many days are left in the race.

    ''It is best if he has no idea,'' Stanovnik says. ''He rides — that is
    all.''

    Robic's season consists of a handful of 24-hour races built around RAAM and,
    last year, Le Tour Direct. As in most ultra sports, prize money is more
    derisory than motivational. Even with the Slovene Army picking up much of
    the travel tab, the $10,000 check from RAAM barely covers Robic's cost of
    competing. His sponsorships, mostly with Slovene sports-nutrition and
    bike-equipment companies, aren't enough to put him in the black. (Stanovnik
    lent Robic's team $8,500 last year.)

    Stanovnik is adept at motivating Robic along the way. When the mujahedeen
    appeared in 2004, Stanovnik pretended to see them too, and urged Robic to
    ride faster. When an addled Robic believes himself to be back in Slovenia,
    Stanovnik informs him that his hometown is just a few miles ahead. He also
    employs more time-honored, drill-sergeant techniques.

    ''They would shout insults at him,'' says Hans Mauritz. ''It woke him up,
    and he kept going.''

    (Naturally, these tactics add an element of tension between Robic and team
    members, and account for his bouts of hostility toward them, including, in
    2003, Robic's mistaken but passionately held impression that Stanovnik was
    having an affair with his wife.)

    In all decisions, Stanovnik governs according to a rule of thumb that he has
    developed over the years: at the dark moment when Robic feels utterly
    exhausted, when he is so empty and sleep-deprived that he feels as if he
    might literally die on the bike, he actually has 50 percent more energy to
    give.

    ''That is our method,'' Stanovnik says. ''When Jure cannot go any more, he
    can still go. We must motivate him sometimes, but he goes.''

    In this dual-brain system, Robic's mental breakdowns are not an unwanted
    side effect, but rather an integral part of the process: welcome proof that
    the other limiting factors have been eliminated and that maximum stress has
    been placed firmly on the final link, Robic's mind. While his long-term
    memory appears unaffected (he can recall route landmarks from year to year),
    his short-term memory evaporates. Robic will repeat the same question 10
    times in five minutes. His mind exists completely in the present.

    ''When I am tired, Miran can take me to the edge,'' Robic says
    appreciatively, ''to the last atoms of my power.'' How far past the 50
    percent limit can Robic be pushed? ''Ninety, maybe 95 percent,'' Stanovnik
    says thoughtfully. ''But that would probably be unhealthy.''

    Interestingly — or unnervingly, depending on how you look at it — some
    researchers are uncovering evidence that Stanovnik's rule of thumb might be
    right. A spate of recent studies has contributed to growing support for the
    notion that the origins and controls of fatigue lie partly, if not mostly,
    within the brain and the central nervous system. The new research puts fresh
    weight to the hoary coaching cliché: you only think you're tired.

    From the time of Hippocrates, the limits of human exertion were thought to
    reside in the muscles themselves, a hypothesis that was established in 1922
    with the Nobel Prize-winning work of Dr. A.V. Hill. The theory went like
    this: working muscles, pushed to their limit, accumulated lactic acid. When
    concentrations of lactic acid reached a certain level, so the argument went,
    the muscles could no longer function. Muscles contained an ''automatic
    brake,'' Hill wrote, ''carefully adjusted by nature.''

    Researchers, however, have long noted a link between neurological disorders
    and athletic potential. In the late 1800's, the pioneering French doctor
    Philippe Tissié observed that phobias and epilepsy could be beneficial for
    athletic training. A few decades later, the German surgeon August Bier
    measured the spontaneous long jump of a mentally disturbed patient, noting
    that it compared favorably to the existing world record. These types of
    exertions seemed to defy the notion of built-in muscular limits and, Bier
    noted, were made possible by ''powerful mental stimuli and the simultaneous
    elimination of inhibitions.''

    Questions about the muscle-centered model came up again in 1989 when
    Canadian researchers published the results of an experiment called Operation
    Everest II, in which athletes did heavy exercise in altitude chambers. The
    athletes reached exhaustion despite the fact that their lactic-acid
    concentrations remained comfortably low. Fatigue, it seemed, might be caused
    by something else.

    In 1999, three physiologists from the University of Cape Town Medical School
    in South Africa took the next step. They worked a group of cyclists to
    exhaustion during a 62-mile laboratory ride and measured, via electrodes,
    the percentage of leg muscles they were using at the fatigue limit. If
    standard theories were true, they reasoned, the body should recruit more
    muscle fibers as it approached exhaustion — a natural compensation for
    tired, weakening muscles.

    Instead, the researchers observed the opposite result. As the riders
    approached complete fatigue, the percentage of active muscle fibers
    decreased, until they were using only about 30 percent. Even as the athletes
    felt they were giving their all, the reality was that more of their muscles
    were at rest. Was the brain purposely holding back the body?

    ''It was as if the brain was playing a trick on the body, to save it,'' says
    Timothy Noakes, head of the Cape Town group. ''Which makes a lot of sense,
    if you think about it. In fatigue, it only feels like we're going to die.
    The actual physiological risks that fatigue represents are essentially
    trivial.''

    From this, Noakes and his colleagues concluded that A.V. Hill had been right
    about the automatic brake, but wrong about its location. They postulated the
    existence of what they called a central governor: a neural system that
    monitors carbohydrate stores, the levels of glucose and oxygen in the blood,
    the rates of heat gain and loss, and work rates. The governor's job is to
    hold our bodies safely back from the brink of collapse by creating painful
    sensations that we interpret as unendurable muscle fatigue.

    Fatigue, the researchers argue, is less an objective event than a subjective
    emotion — the brain's clever, self-interested attempt to scare you into
    stopping. The way past fatigue, then, is to return the favor: to fool the
    brain by lying to it, distracting it or even provoking it. (That said,
    mental gamesmanship can never overcome a basic lack of fitness. As Noakes
    says, the body always holds veto power.)

    ''Athletes and coaches already do a lot of this instinctively,'' Noakes
    says. ''What is a coach, after all, but a technique for overcoming the
    governor?''

    The governor theory is far from conclusive, but some scientists are focusing
    on a walnut-size area in the front portion of the brain called the anterior
    cingulate cortex. This has been linked to a host of core functions,
    including handling pain, creating emotion and playing a key role in what's
    known loosely as willpower. Sir Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of DNA,
    thought the anterior cingulate cortex to be the seat of the soul. In the
    sports world, perhaps no soul relies on it more than Jure Robic's.

    Some people ''have the ability to reprocess the pain signal,'' says Daniel
    Galper, a senior researcher in the psychiatry department at the University
    of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas. ''It's not that they don't
    feel the pain; they just shift their brain dynamics and alter their
    perception of reality so the pain matters less. It's basically a purposeful
    hallucination.''

    Noakes and his colleagues speculate that the central governor theory holds
    the potential to explain not just feats of stamina but also their opposite:
    chronic fatigue syndrome (a malfunctioning, overactive governor, in this
    view). Moreover, the governor theory makes evolutionary sense. Animals whose brains safeguarded an emergency stash of physical reserves might well have survived at a higher rate than animals that could drain their fuel tanks at
    will.

    The theory would also seem to explain a sports landscape in which
    ultra-endurance events have gone from being considered medically hazardous
    to something perilously close to routine. The Ironman triathlon in Hawaii —
    a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bike ride and marathon-length run — was the ne
    plus ultra in endurance in the 1980's, but has now been topped by the
    Ultraman, which is more than twice as long. Once obscure, the genre known as
    adventure racing, which includes 500-plus-mile wilderness races like Primal
    Quest, has grown to more than 400 events each year. Ultramarathoners,
    defined as those who participate in running events exceeding the official
    marathon distance of 26.2 miles, now number some 15,000 in the United States
    alone. The underlying physics have not changed, but rather our sense of
    possibility. Athletic culture, like Robic, has discovered a way to tweak its
    collective governor.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    It's a gray morning in December, and Robic is driving his silver Peugeot to
    one of his favorite training rides in the hills along Slovenia's Adriatic
    coast. The wind is blowing 50 miles an hour, and the temperature is in the
    40's. If Robic's anterior cingulate cortex can sometimes block out negative
    information, this is definitely not one of those times.

    ''This is bad,'' he says, peering at the wind-shredded clouds. ''It makes no
    sense to train. You cannot train, and I am out there, cold and freezing for
    hours. I am shivering and wondering, Why do I do this?''

    Robic often complains like this. Even when the weather is ideal, he points
    out the clouds blowing in and how horrible and lonely his workout will be.
    At first it seems like showboat kvetching that will diminish as he gets more
    familiar with you, but as time wears on it's apparent that his complaints
    are sincere. He isn't just acting miserable — he is miserable.

    The negativity is accentuated, perhaps, by the fact that Robic trains
    exclusively alone. What's more, he's famously disinclined to seek advice
    when it comes to training, medical treatment and nutrition. ''Completely
    uncoachable,'' says his friend Uros Velepec, a two-time winner of the
    Ultraman World Championships. Robic invents eclectic workout schedules: six
    hours of biking one day, seven hours of Nordic skiing the next, with perhaps
    a mountain climb or two in between, all faithfully tracked and recorded in a
    series of battered notebooks.

    ''I find motivation everywhere,'' Robic says. ''If right now you look at me
    and wonder if I cannot go up the mountain, even if you are joking, I will do
    it. Then I will do it again, and maybe again.'' He gestures to Mount Stol, a
    snowy Goliath crouched 7,300 feet above him, as remote as the moon. ''Three
    years ago, I got angry at the mountain. I climbed it 38 times in two
    months.''

    Robic goes on to detail his motivational fuel sources, including his
    neglectful father, persistent near poverty (three years ago, he was reduced
    to asking for food from a farmer friend) and a lack of large-sponsor support
    because of Slovenia's small size. (''If I lived in Austria, I would be
    millionaire,'' he says unconvincingly.) There is also a psychological twist
    of biblical flavor: a half brother born out of wedlock named Marko, Jure's
    age to the month. Robic says his father favored Marko to the extent that the
    old man made him part owner of his restaurant, leaving Jure, at age 28, to
    beg them for a dishwashing job.

    ''All my life I was pushed away,'' he says. ''I get the feeling that I'm not
    good enough to be the good one. And so now I am good at something, and I
    want revenge to prove to all the people who thought I was some kind of
    loser. These feelings are all the time present in me. They are where my
    power is coming from.''

    As a young man, Robic was known as a village racer, decent enough locally
    but not talented enough to land a professional contract. Throughout his
    20's, he rode with small Slovene teams, supporting himself with a sales job
    for a bike-parts dealer. It was with the death of his mother in 1997 and his
    subsequent depression that Robic discovered his calling. On the advice of a
    cyclist friend, he started training for the 1999 Crocodile Trophy, a
    notoriously painful week-and-a-half-long mountain bike race across
    Australia. Robic finished third.

    In October of 2001, Robic set out to see how far he could cycle in 24 hours.
    The day was unpromising: raw and wet. He nearly didn't ride. But he did —
    and went an estimated 498 miles, almost a world record.

    ''That was the day I knew I could do this,'' he says. ''I know that the
    thing that does not kill me makes me stronger. I can feel it, and when I
    want to quit I hear this voice say, 'Come on, Jure,' and I keep going.''

    A year later, he quit his job and volunteered to join the Slovene military,
    undergoing nine months of intensive combat training (he surprised his unit
    with his penchant for late-night training runs). He earned a coveted spot in
    the sports division, which exists solely to support the nation's top
    athletes. For Robic, the post meant a salary of 700 euros (about $850) a
    month and the freedom to train full time.

    This day, despite the foul conditions, Robic trains for five and a half
    hours. He rides through toylike stone villages and fields of olive trees; he
    climbs mountains from whose peaks he can see the blue Adriatic and the coast
    of Italy. He rides across the border checkpoint into Croatia, along a
    deserted beach and past groves of fanlike bamboo. He rides in a powerful
    crouch, his big legs churning, his face impassive.

    While I watch from the car, I'm reminded of a scene the previous night.
    Robic and his support crew of fellow soldiers met at a small restaurant for
    a RAAM reunion. For several hours, they ate veal, drank wine out of small
    glass pitchers and reminisced in high spirits about the race. They spoke of
    the time Robic became unshakably convinced his team was making fun of him,
    and the time he sat on a curb in Athens, Ohio, and refused to budge for an
    hour, and the time they had to lift his sleeping body back onto his bike.

    Stanovnik told of an incident in the Appalachians, when Robic, who seemed
    about to give up, suddenly found an unexpected burst of energy. ''He goes
    like madman for one hour, two hours,'' Stanovnik recalled. ''I am shouting
    at him, 'You show Slovenia, you show army, you show world what you are!' I
    have tears on my face, watching him.''

    At the end of the table, Rajko Petek wondered whether he could continue to
    work on the crew. ''It is too much,'' he said to a round of understanding
    nods. ''This kind of racing leaves damage upon Jure's mind. Too much
    fighting, too much craziness. I cannot take it anymore.''

    Robic sat quietly in their midst, his eyes darting and quick. Sometimes he'd
    offer a word or a joke, but mostly he listened. At first it seemed he was
    being shy, but after a while it became apparent that he was curious to hear
    the stories. The person of whom they spoke — this sometimes frightening,
    sometimes inspiring man named Jure Robic — remained a stranger to him.

    Robic finishes his ride as the winter sun is going down. As we drive back
    toward Koroska Bela, a lens of white fog descends on the roadway. We pass
    ghostlike farms, factories and church spires while Robic talks about his
    plans for the coming year. He talks about his wife, whose job has supported
    them, and he talks about their son, who is starting to walk. He talks about
    how he will try to win a record third consecutive RAAM in June, and how he
    hopes race officials won't react to the recent fatalities by adding
    mandatory rest stops. (''Then it will not be a true race,'' he says.) In a
    few months, he'll do his signature 48-hour training, in which he rides for
    24 hours straight, stays awake all night, and then does a 12-hour workout.

    But this year is going to be different in one respect. Robic is going to
    start working with a local sports psychologist who has previously helped
    several Slovene Olympians. It seems that Robic, the uncoachable one, is
    looking for guidance.

    ''I want to solve the demon,'' he says. ''I do not want to be so crazy
    during the races. Every man has black and white inside of him, and the black
    should stay inside.''

    He presses the accelerator, weaving through drivers made timid by the fog.
    ''This will be good for me,'' he adds, his voice growing louder. ''I am
    older now, but I have the feeling that I am stronger than ever before. Now I
    am reaching where there is nothing that is too hard for my body because my
    mind is hard. Nothing!''

    Robic attempts to convey the intensity of his feeling, but can only gesture
    dramatically with his hands, which unfortunately are needed to control the
    steering wheel. The car veers toward a ditch.

    Acting quickly, Robic regrips the wheel. After a shaky second or two, he
    regains control of the car. We barrel onward through the mist. His sidelong
    smile is pure confidence.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    Well, I actually got through all of it. Interesting article- if you liked this, you should read a book called 'The Ultimate High' by a now-deceased Goren Kropp. It is a first person account of someone who sounds almost as crazy as this guy.
    Believe.

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    Didn't think I'd read this, but couldn't stop once started. Very interesting stuff in there.

    Sick and ashamed and happy (and not so crazy),
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    "Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward."
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    That was a good read. The bit about fatigue and will power was especially interesting. How athletes like this can stand the pain of being on a bicycle for so long and the torture of 100% exertion for days at a time with no sleep is amazing.
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    I love that they mentioned Tim Noakes. Great guy doing cool research on human performance. Never met him personally, but, back in the day, we exchanged several e-mails on training and injury issues. Always available for discussion.

    On another note, my friend Jamshid back in 93 ran Western States 100, then finished RAAM a week or two later, and then, swam around Manhatten Island to make it a truly "ultra" ironman. I don't recall if he became sick from the swim part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva
    swam around Manhatten Island to make it a truly "ultra" ironman.
    That Manhattan swim is an interesting event. I know a guy in his 50s who swam it last year. He got into the Hudson River (final leg) and they pulled everyone out of the water due to lightning! How much would that suck?

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    Real life Jason Bourne? I'm surprised that this guy has not been recruited by some ultra-secretive organization.
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    That was a good read. Where'd you pull this from?

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    Interesting.

    I've fallen asleep enough while biking to backtrack/loop and have had very mild halucinations. Definitely interesting. Highly recommended.

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    Id like to see a re-enactment of his mind during the races Especially

    "In a 2004 race, he turned to see himself pursued by a howling band of
    black-bearded men on horseback."
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    Damn thats impressive - longest endurance race Ive done is a half-ironman. Those ultra-endurance athletes truly are remarkable.

    "''It was as if the brain was playing a trick on the body, to save it" sounds like a quote from Mark Allen, 5(?) time Ironman world champion about how your body isnt to smart and your mind can fool it into doing what you want. Nice read.
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    Bump since RAAM is underway and this guy is flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug View Post
    That was a good read. Where'd you pull this from?
    I can't even remember posting that.
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    He's starting the race by riding 724 miles nonstop, through Death Valley, and including some big climbs. What a total FREAK.

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    Dude was on Fresh Air or This American Life a few years back, if I remember he isn't all that great at actually riding a bike but you can't ever get him off the damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtrubs View Post
    Well, I actually got through all of it. Interesting article- if you liked this, you should read a book called 'The Ultimate High' by a now-deceased Goren Kropp. It is a first person account of someone who sounds almost as crazy as this guy.
    An amazing book about a pretty amazing guy, from what I can tell.

    Great article: thanks for posting it originally and for the bump!

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    Damn good stuff there. Mind is a awesome piece of machinery.

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    So its my brain that is causing all that pain, I knew it. Problem is when your in a hospital bed with Rabdo you think, maybe my brain was right 25 miles ago.

    Good read.
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    great read - you can see this every Feb in Boston at the CRASH-B's - its usually the insane ones that make the finals, rowed with an olympic light weight(collegiate heavyweight) who could pull until he passed out - everyone thought he was crazy too, some people are just off enough.

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    Apparently Jure Robic was killed today after being hit today by a car in Solvenia.

    The guy may have been slightly unhinged, but he was an incredible athlete.

    ++++Vibes+++++ to his family and friends.

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    RIP.

    "Occasionally, Robic leaps from his bike to square off with shadowy figures that turn out to be mailboxes. In a 2004 race, he turned to see himself pursued by a howling band of
    black-bearded men on horseback.

    ''Mujahedeen, shooting at me,'' he explains. ''So I ride faster.''

    His wife, a nurse, interjects: ''The first time I went to a race, I was not
    prepared to see what happens to his mind. We nearly split up.''
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