UT: "intro" tours in LCC/BCC?

[phatfreeheeler]

Upper BCC is friendly for the most part.

Key words "for the most part". I think more deaths happen in BCC than LCC just because the danger is less in your face. That being said, some good advice has been given so no reason to out my secret stashes.

USA bowl is about turns not exposure or coolness. Skiers left slides just about every year, but otherwise it's the safe bet on high danger days. Often over looked is the importance of skilled partners. Your partners can make it safer or more dangerous for you. I used to put a lot of people at higher risk. "looks bomber, you first!!"

[altachic]

I have all my touring gear so I'm game for whatever, you know that lynx...let's get out there sometime soon to get some touring in.

DTM says Twin Lakes is a good intro tour

[Red Baron]

DTM says Twin Lakes is a good intro tour

even better if you start it from the top of the Milli. chair...

[Lumpy]

even better if you start it from the top of the Milli. chair...

Gravity is our friend indeed.

Like the Red Baron Tour mentioned on page 1.

[tele mark]

In addition to Mill D and USA bowl, Willow fork and Beartrap offer predominantly easy to access low risk terrain. Also, don't forget Pink Pine in LCC.

I found the tours described in Touring Guide vol. 1 a bit tame for anyone who would describe themselves as an intermediate or better skier. It does have some good avy info, however between the course, free lectures and other reading it won't add significantly to your knowledge. Vol. II has more interesting tours and covers the the areas your'e likely to ski (including all those mentioned in this thread).

[AltaPowderDaze]

I found the tours described in Touring Guide vol. 1 a bit tame for anyone who would describe themselves as an intermediate or better skier. It does have some good avy info, however between the course, free lectures and other reading it won't add significantly to your knowledge. Vol. II has more interesting tours and covers the the areas your'e likely to ski (including all those mentioned in this thread).

it may not add too much to your avy savy but the pic of cardiff ridge w/ a 7'(?) crown in it is worth the price of the book alone. that's a good example why the best approach isn't alway the quickest.

[patcher]

wow, lots of good info in here. it sounds like there's a pretty big group of people with avalanche & backcountry education, looking for a chance to get out into areas that aren't *usually* too dangerous, to get some experience. maybe we should just pick a meeting time and place once or twice a week and see who shows, and head out?

Sounds like a good idea. let me know when and where.

[fineline]

good idea....

let's get all the utarded maggettes together and go

NO BOYS ALLOWED!

I am so down!
Lynx, Kirsten, AC... lets do it! I have recently started touring and stuff and have been looking for people to go out with! I would love to get a maggette crew together. I have all the gear, and an open schedule.

[Lynx]

sweet, lets all meet up on monday and tap mt raymond's ass. heh, it doesn't need to be said, but -just kidding-
actually, out of curiosity, how often does that get skiied?

RB might be on to something. Whoever is free can meet up, and go on some snow science get-yo-self-mo-learned tours (and i mean that in a good way!). I don't even try to pretend i am any kind of speed demon while skinning. And i'd love to get some maggette only tours going as well. I will warn you all though, I'm gonna be a big nerrrrrrrd on the way up, and i encourage you all to join me in my snow nerd-dom.

maybe i'll make t-shirts too, "snow nerds are cool" dang, i should have gone into marketing.

[skiguide]

sweet, lets all meet up on monday and tap mt raymond's ass. heh, it doesn't need to be said, but -just kidding-
actually, out of curiosity, how often does that get skiied?

RB might be on to something. Whoever is free can meet up, and go on some snow science get-yo-self-mo-learned tours (and i mean that in a good way!). I don't even try to pretend i am any kind of speed demon while skinning. And i'd love to get some maggette only tours going as well. I will warn you all though, I'm gonna be a big nerrrrrrrd on the way up, and i encourage you all to join me in my snow nerd-dom.

maybe i'll make t-shirts too, "snow nerds are cool" dang, i should have gone into marketing.

Lynx, I'd be up for monday - or really any weekday - i make my own schedule. Just no freakin Dawn Patrols!

just took my avy I class last month so some more field edumacation wouldn't hurt me either.

[phatfreeheeler]

sweet, lets all meet up on monday and tap mt raymond's ass. heh, it doesn't need to be said, but -just kidding-
actually, out of curiosity, how often does that get skiied?

Depends a lot on the line. The upper east facing bowl is mostly flat slab rock so it slides easily. The northern slopes look to be the less avi prone from my understanding. There are definately some fun lines, but access to so many other closer lines really cut's down the traffic up there. I usually ski "Circle All" a bunch (which is on the S. shoulder of Raymond). It's at least an hour less hiking for me.

[patcher]

Lynx, Put this plan into motion young lady. My schedule is pretty flexible also.

Edit to tell you my schedule is not near as flexible as mr and mrs AG

[Yossarian]

back where you belong

[fineline]

Just no freakin Dawn Patrols!

aww- dawn patrols are great!

[Lynx]

Lynx, Put this plan into motion young lady. My schedule is pretty flexible also.

Edit to tell you my schedule is not near as flexible as mr and mrs AG

my mornings are usually free. though sometimes i need to take pics or sleep in, heheh. but generally open.


and we just did day one of the field work in our avy 1 course. I can't stress enough how important it is to have prior avalanche knowledge before the course. It seems the best way to get the most out of this course is to be able to ask the questions that better clarify the things you weren't clear on from your self learning or previous clinics. I have also noticed, and feel like there are things I already know that have not been covered very thoroughly, and I think i would be lost in alot of places if i had come into this course knowing nothing. and having done that clinic with Jim Conway was so good. I think it's great to have insight from as many different avy professionals as possible cause most of them all have a slightly different take on a given situation and you can take their collective knowledge and opinions and approchaes to help you formulate your own.