tele binding mount?

[johngchrist]

Should i mount my own bindings?? i have new bc jaxs and want to put crb hardwires on them. I feel i have the neccesary know how tool wise to perform such a task but wonder what other things i need to be aware of. Is it worth paying a shop to do it?

[Conundrum]

If you have the necessary tools, you could try. Remember, measure three times and drill once. You could do it yourself but have someone there that knows what they are doing to check your work-pay them in beer for their time. Another option is do a search over at www.telemarktips.com. They have a good article on this.

If you are asking, I would take it to a shop though.

[jackstraw]

try mounting them on an old pair of skis first and see what happens. hopefully, if you make any mistakes you can correct it on the next mount. if you don't have a 'ski drill bit, 4.1 & 3.5' i would get one. tele mounts are a little more difficult than an alpine mount especially in the leather boot days, imo.

[shirk]

Don't forget tele mounts are special, you drill the holes all the way through. This is what gives tele all that soul.

If you can't mount them after six beers, you need to go back and take high school shop over.

[Core Shot]

tele mounts are a little more difficult than an alpine mount especially in the leather boot days, imo.

No way.
Tele is much easier.

The key is to drill and screw in one front screw, then insert boot and twist until the boot heel is centered in the ski. then mark the remaining holes, remove binding and drill.

Although alpine seems easy also, without a jig it is easy to get the bindings cockeyed.
Tele is easier than Freerides, as some have found out by having their lockdown and climbing posts out of allignment.

Botttom line - do it.
Search here and at ttips for "tele bindng mount" and you will learn all you need.
Hardest part is deciding on where the pin line will be. - remember that chord center stops at the rear contact point if the ski is a twin-tail.
But Jax prolly have a pin line already (note - be sure to measure both skis to see if that pin line is symmetrical on both skis - the graphics can be off by as much as 1 cm!!)

[jackstraw]

No way.
Tele is much easier.

The key is to drill and screw in one front screw, then insert boot and twist until the boot heel is centered in the ski. then mark the remaining holes, remove binding and drill.

Although alpine seems easy also, without a jig it is easy to get the bindings cockeyed.

so, let me get this straight! drilling one hole and mounting the binder, sticking the boot in (btw, exactly the way ive always mounted teles) then...twisting the boot around to line up the boot/binding on the ski. you mark the binder as best as possible and slide the boot out. then mark the holes (the best u can) and drill straight! do it again EXACTLY as you did on the first ski and off you go.

alpine mount...throw the jig on, measure from the tail, drill holes and do it again on second ski.

ya, tele is much easier

its much more fun but not easier.

[Core Shot]

Hey, jackstraw from wichita, if you have a jig, you are cheating.

Tele with jig (set boot length, throw jig on, drill and screw)
Alpine with jig (set boot length, throw jig on, drill and screw)

the clear assumption is that we are talking about freehanding here.

[Conundrum]

ya, tele is much easier

its much more fun but not easier.

I think Core Shot meant it's easier to freehand a tele than freehand an alpine or AT. Yeah, alpine is easy with a jig but so is tele but there are not that many tele jigs floating around.

[Greydon Clark]

Mount them yourself. I suggest you obtain a drill bit with a collar and that you check the length of the screws before penetration. And remember, off-center bindings are steezy.

[jackstraw]

tele jig? what the hell is that?? i've never seen one. i had aways used a marker jig to set the first hole. i am dating myself here...its been ova 10yrs!

[frorider]

i've mounted millions of tele bindings at home, no problemo. all kinds of weirdass hole patterns, depending on brand. most shops didn't carry all the necessary jigs.

however, with most tele bindings now using the standard 4 hole mount pattern, it's quicker and easier to find a shop that'll drill the holes for you with the standard jig. typically they charge me 5 bucks for this service. i bring the skis in with the pinline location marked, to make it easy for them. usually the shop will do it right then and there, and i'm out the door in 5 minutes.

then take 'em home, and mount them up. glue in the holes, etc.

[johngchrist]

any info on where to mount the bindings I half skimmed over something saying farther forward makes turning easier not too sure if this is right. Also The bc jaks come with a mounting sticker. I like the idea of drilling all the way through the ski seems like alot of strength would be gained i wouldn't want to pull the binding off. Thanks so far for the info

[shirk]

Yes you should drill all the way though the skis . Also drill about 20 or 30 other holes in the ski to save some weight. Hole saw bits work excellent for this. The holes also help put up a nice rooster tail in pow, looks real cool

[jackstraw]

any info on where to mount the bindings I half skimmed over something saying farther forward makes turning easier not too sure if this is right. Also The bc jaks come with a mounting sticker. I like the idea of drilling all the way through the ski seems like alot of strength would be gained i wouldn't want to pull the binding off. Thanks so far for the info

the drill thru the ski is just a joke, you knew that right? mounting a 1/2cm of 1 forward is a good way to go for some. it can help initiate a turn quicker. i never mounted teles that way, just SL skis in the past.

i would take it to shop and get it done

[Conundrum]

I would be happy to help you if you are in the Boise area.

[Greydon Clark]

I frequently go 2cm fwd of chord center. Sometimes I find CC and then stand over the ski and imagine where I’d like my foot to be. Mounting skis is halfway between rocket science and making a baby.

[slim]

Mounting skis is halfway between rocket science and making a baby.

Fucking complicated?

[shirk]

Mounting skis is halfway between rocket science and making a baby.

Any idiot can do it?

[Greydon Clark]

Fucking complicated?

Yes.

Any idiot can do it?

Yes.

[johngchrist]

it seems like i will take it to a shop for them to locate and drill the holes just so that when shit hits the fan i have a person to point my finger at besides my self but they probably wouldn't take the blame. I have to switch my stance on my split board so if it is anything like that then it wil be good practice. Thanks for the offer conundrum but im in SLC. I allso like the idea of the roster tail, anything that makes me stezeeeeeier While imin my neon green oakley fit.

wouldn't it be complicated fucking?

[Villiage Idiot]

I think you should just lock 'em down and ski like real men do!

[m1e448]

You should do it yourself. Shops are for pussies. Just get yourself some beer, a drill and proper size bit with tape wrapped around it so you don't add any steez holes, a good ruler/tape measure, sharpie, some wood glue and a #3 pozi bit. Don't Voile's come with a paper jig anyhow?

[Lok]

There is a bunch of paper jigs here. A few seemed out of scale, but the numbers are listed on most of them.

[frorider]

in terms of binding location, most shops (including tele shops) are too lazy or ignorant to do it right. nearly all will simply mount 'pins at chord center', which works okay for some skis and average-sized feet.

general rule is to a) figger out where you'd mount the boots if you used the alpine recommended location based on midsole b) figger out the lazy-shop pins at chord center location......then, use your own personal voodoo to figure out what position in between these two extremes you want to use for the actual location.

Are you a tele skier who does a lot of parallel turns? Do you want the ski to feel turnier? Then pick a location near A.

Will it mostly see powder conditions? Prefer straightline stability over turning? Is it a ski with a stiff tail? Then pick a location nearer to B.

[AltaPowderDaze]

You should do it yourself. Shops are for pussies. Just get yourself some beer, a drill and proper size bit with tape wrapped around it so you don't add any steez holes, a good ruler/tape measure, sharpie, some wood glue and a #3 pozi bit. Don't Voile's come with a paper jig anyhow?

thread hijack:

powwrangler,

you still have those boots i bought from you last year? i pmed you back before you left for the holiday but didn't get a reply. if you could give me your address, ship or drop them off on your way up the canyon, i'd appreciate it. if not, let me know how to right the situation.