paging all naturopathic healers!

[Zeedashbo]

so here's the deal. my secondary injury from breaking the shit outta my leg has been my groin area, specifically around my hip-flexor. i had to take some time off from rehabilitation in july because of this problem which the doctor said is pretty much a severly strained/pulled groin. i took a round of prednisone which took care of the problem for the most part.

just this week, the groin problem has flared up again, and i've taken another round of prednisone, and celebrex on the side to no avail.

since the drugs aren't working i've decided to detox all the crap outta my body in hopes that it will speed up the healing process. but since my hippy-ish ex girlfriend isn't returning my calls (i swear that wasn't a used condom), i need some help as to what naturopathic/homeopathic stuff i should take to help cleanse out my body.

any tips or info will help. leave no stone unturned, no mountain unclimbed, no powder untracked, and no booty unsmacked.

your pal,
z-bo

[joshbu]

Go here: http://bastyrcenter.org/

They're cheap and Bastyr is one of the top naturopathic schools in the world.

Good luck with your, ah, groin.

[Zeedashbo]

thanks josh. not really looking to talk to a doctor or anything, just trying to find out which tea's and oils i should take to help cleanse out my temple.

[Odin]

Ipecac

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[freshie247]

Accupuncture is the path you should travel.That combined with some rolfing or massage therapy.

[Viva]

You ought to be treating the muscle injury. What happened and how bad is it?

I doubt that naturopathetic remedies are going to help you much in this case.

[powpig]

I recommend http://www.herbdoc.com

[irul&ublo]

I recommend The Moonlight Bunny Ranch.

[Odin]

Then he runs right back into the whole used condom issue again.

[Zeedashbo]

You ought to be treating the muscle injury. What happened and how bad is it?

I doubt that naturopathetic remedies are going to help you much in this case.

nothing happened to onset this. i didn't take any diggers skiing or do anything extraordinary. it just started bugging me sunday morning, and hasn't become any better. since this has happened before and anit-inflammatories and rest were prescribed, i tried that again. since it didn't work, i was thinking that a full on detox of my body would maybe help cleanse any of the crap out of my muscles that were preventing a speedy recovery.

[KQ]

Beet juice is a super cleanser but be careful to start out easy with it (use small amounts).

One of my favorite juices that I make at home is:

Carrot 70%
Apple 15%
Beet 10%
Ginger 5%


Juice the Ginger first (there isn't a lot of juice in the ginger and running the other juices through it will help extract more). Ginger is a natural anti-inflammatory but it's also a blood thinner so use it with caution esp. if you are scheduled for surgery or having issues with blood clotting.

You can up the amount of beet you put in this juice over time - you just don't want to dive right in and shock your liver.

Other good things to do are take very hot baths to create an artificial fever so you sweat toxins out. Drink lots of water. Eat Garlic and take Echinacea with Goldenseal.

Knudsen’s makes a great Echinacea Ginger juice (most stores carry their juices in the organic section) that you might try also but juicing your own stuff is always the best.

Good luck!

[Odin]

If you wanted to make him throw up, KQ, we could have just stuck with ipecac. You forgot the part about holding your nose while drinking said concoction

[KQ]

If you wanted to make him throw up, KQ, we could have just stuck with ipecac. You forgot the part about holding your nose while drinking said concoction

Aw come on now....carrot juice is actually very sweet and the apple (use a half) balances it out. Beets are so nice and earthy and the ginger adds some heat for excitement.

Try it.....you'll like it!

[Zeedashbo]

thanks kq. i'm going to the one-stop hippy shop right now.

edit: and odin, you rule. i tried the syrup of ipecac and it worked out awesome! i'm as skinny as a supermodel.

[Viva]

nothing happened to onset this. i didn't take any diggers skiing or do anything extraordinary. it just started bugging me sunday morning, and hasn't become any better.

I'm guessing that the muscle became tight during rehab and you strained/pulled/maybe even tore it a little during skiing. Were you stretching prior to the injury? Even then, the hip flexor is one of those jobbies that needs to be isolated.

On a positive note, you can always tell your honey that you're hurt because your balls are too full and the extra weight caused the injury. The doc precribed a twice daily BJ regimen to correct the situation.

Good luck, Doood!

[Odin]

edit: and odin, you rule. i tried the syrup of ipecac and it worked out awesome! i'm as skinny as a supermodel.

It's LINDSAY LOHAN recommended!

[uncle crud]

just a thought...

are you aware that steroids (prednisone) are anti-inflammatory only, and do not do anything special to make the torn soft tissues heal faster. in other words, if you aren't resting the pulled / torn tissue, it can't get any better, which is probably why you needed the second steroid shot.

"Deep Green" arnica salve has shocked me with its apparent ability to speed up ankle sprain healing. I was a crazy skeptic about that stuff but when I sprained an ankle last spring, I used it religiously (along with the standard resting/icing/elevating) and had a super fast recovery, 1/2 (and maybe an even bigger fraction) less time than usual. unless there's some reason to not use it in your case, I'd suggest trying Deep Green.

in any case, hope you heal quickly!

so here's the deal. my secondary injury from breaking the shit outta my leg has been my groin area, specifically around my hip-flexor. i had to take some time off from rehabilitation in july because of this problem which the doctor said is pretty much a severly strained/pulled groin. i took a round of prednisone which took care of the problem for the most part.

just this week, the groin problem has flared up again, and i've taken another round of prednisone, and celebrex on the side to no avail.

since the drugs aren't working i've decided to detox all the crap outta my body in hopes that it will speed up the healing process. but since my hippy-ish ex girlfriend isn't returning my calls (i swear that wasn't a used condom), i need some help as to what naturopathic/homeopathic stuff i should take to help cleanse out my body.

any tips or info will help. leave no stone unturned, no mountain unclimbed, no powder untracked, and no booty unsmacked.

your pal,
z-bo

[MeatPuppet]

Hey Z,

Can't help you with the cleansing, but as far as the healing, get a heated vibrating massager and use it twice a day on the affected area. You will get laughed at if anyone sees it laying around your place. So put it away when company comes over. But it will help you heal faster. The heat encourages bloodflow and the vibrations help break up blood clots. The more blood that gets to the injured tissue, the faster your body is able to repair itself. Rolfing and massage therapy(as freshie247 mentioned) work in a very similar way and are a good idea as well.

It may take a few tries to find the right vibrator(so save your receipt). You don't want one that vibrates to fast or it will just make your skin go numb and not penetrate deeply enough. Also, don't use it for more than about 10 min at a time. It becomes counterproductive after about 15 min of use in the same spot.

I find that I heal 2-3 times as fast if I use a HVM on the injury vs. letting it heal on it's own.

Pulled muscles suck! I hope you heal up fast.

[phUnk]

MeatPuppet is right. My girlfriend uses that same kind of therapy sometimes.

[MeatPuppet]

MeatPuppet is right. My girlfriend uses that same kind of therapy sometimes.

That didn't take long...I MEANT IT AS A SERIOUS POST!!!

[summit]

Paging all quacks, shamans, and witchdoctors...

[truth]

I believe a high colonic followed by a shakra balancing is in order.

[Vinman]

I agree with Viva on this, treat the muscle injury. With an injury as extensive and violent as yours you will certainly have set backs you as continue to heal up. More than likely you are experiencing muscle strain as a result of a muscular imbalance/ lack of strenght in that specific muscle group/movement pattern.

1. Relative rest: meaning slow down just a bit for a week or so

2. regular heat packs and or soaks in the hot tub/bath tub

3. light stretching 2-3x/day. This should not be painful, only a moderate stretching sensation.

4. after the pain begins to subside some light stregth exercises to rehab that specific area. If you need specific descriptions let me know.

5. Skip the predisone/anti-inflammatories. your body needs to go through the inflammatory process in order to heal. By preventing it with drugs you will slow the process down instead of making it better. Too many docs throw out anti-inflamms as a quick fix instead to treating the actualy problem IMHO.

6. If this continues to be a problem go back to your ortho. There is always the possibility that you might have some changes to the mechanics of that leg that will be permenant after this type of injury and corrective surgery. I.E. leg shorter/ rotated.