new Jak BC?

[Particle]

So I read the raving review on ttips, but those guys are addicted to Jak BC's like we are to pow and crack cocaine. So, I wanted a slightly more subjective opinion.

http://www.telemarktips.com/NewRev.html

Anyone got on-mountain experience on these things? I'm seriously considering a pair for my tele setup (186cm) for light touring duty / hardpack resort days when there's not much to alpine for. I'm mostly concerned about them being too chattery in-bounds, but I think a 90mm waist will be pretty good for bc pow and skinny enough to manage harder conditions in bounds.

[onehotchili]

paging 3pin... i think he might be on the road for the holidays, but he could prolly give a comment or two.

[lemon boy]

Dude- what is it with you and the line's? You'd think by now you'd have learned your lesson or something

Sugars/Pimps
Seth's

can all be had in smaller versions. Mitch & Tim's review leads me to believe that people like you will very soon outgun these inbounds.

[Particle]

Dude- what is it with you and the line's? You'd think by now you'd have learned your lesson or something

Sugars/Pimps
Seth's

can all be had in smaller versions. Mitch & Tim's review leads me to believe that people like you will very soon outgun these inbounds.

Hehehe. Seth's are freakin' HEAVY, I know I've skied em. But Atomics could be a good option. Main reason I was looking at the Karhu/Lines is they are cheap. Don't really want to drop a lot of coin on my tele setup. Which probably says something about the ski...maybe I'll just wait until the closeouts start rolling in after the first of the year.

p.s. and I actually really liked my old Mothership Flites...they were just wayyy to chattery when the snow got at all hard.

[lemon boy]

cheap is as cheap does.

Just take kenny's Vex's out if you want to tele, those are short.

pssttt I chose the skis I did cause it looks like you should get a discount through your workplace on them

[Professor]

According to that review the 179s should rock Honestly if you want something to ski when it is somewhat hard, I would stay away from any ski that is actually marketed as a tele ski. What about just some 184 B4s (old B3s)? I have been actually impressed with the 195s (as the small ski in the quiver... )

[3pin]

I tested the 179, and I think it rocks.

As a comparison, I use the old 180 Jak BC (97mm waist, basically the Moship Flite) for touring, exploded the soft Bros and liked the stiffs, and ski 180 Powder Pluses and medium flex Capital Thrashers for deep days.

I never thought I'd say it, but the new skinnier Jak and Jak BC are way better than the older ones. I think the new Jak BC has the same float in pow, but is much more versatile for funky bc conditions and more stable overall. If you're really going to use it more inbounds with some touring, I'd say get the regular Jak (new version) in a 186. It'll still be lighter than Pistols, Explosives, etc, and will handle groomed and crud better than the Jak BC.

[Particle]

Thanks for the input. 3pin I was actually thinking about the regular Jak as well...good to hear you had the same thoughts.

Although really the 185 B4 is a great idea Prof...hmmmm. Now if they'd just get in stock...

[flip]

I tested the 179, and I think it rocks.

As a comparison, I use the old 180 Jak BC (97mm waist, basically the Moship Flite) for touring, exploded the soft Bros and liked the stiffs, and ski 180 Powder Pluses and medium flex Capital Thrashers for deep days.

When you say "exploded the soft Bros," what does that mean? You liked them or not? Since I can't turn up a cheep inspired/8800, I'm about to pull the trigger on the 179 Jak BC for AT (megarides/comforts), but am tempted to wait for the little bros.

For reference, this is mostly in the Sierras, and I'm 5'8" 165# on a tall day. Was thinking sugar/helidaddy's but based on trying to drive my R:ex with the megarides, I don't think they'll be that fun.

[Particle]

So would I be completely stupid to do a pair of AK Rocket Labs (the swallow tails) for tele/tour duty? Just found a line on a super deal on a pair...and sorely tempted but can't justify it for alpine seeing as that niche is already more than filled (Iggies, Wateas).

[lemon boy]

I think that Noah might be on those. Otherwise: who knows.

[DaHeel]

I skied a pair of the new Bear Jak/HH yesterday(I now own them) and all I could do was grin. The conditions were less than favorable but I managed to get them in tight trees, steep bumps, small to medium drops(<10ft), frozen chicken heads, mank, and cut up. The were great in all but the frozen. I was looking for something between a TMEX and a 189 Hippy stinx and I found it. The jak is very quick and stable with a nice damp feel in cut up and other junk. I own the 186 and I weigh in at 6' and 205lbs.

[Particle]

...I managed to get them in tight trees, steep bumps, small to medium drops(<10ft), frozen chicken heads, mank, and cut up.

Yah that would be every condition and terrain that I avoid like the plague... (except for the drops) LB I keep thinking about you and those 193 Big Daddy's...I know you're a better tele skier than me but I definitely have a good 15lbs on ya plus the running length of those Sollys is like 185...hmmm. I have clearly been hanging out with Prof and MT too much lately.

[lemon boy]

solly's are gonna be WAY softer than the BDs too

[DaHeel]

Particle,
Versatility is what I was lookig for. I'm a bit tired of "specific" skis like the Hippy. They are great for some things but lack in the all around. My day bc or resort is never just one thing. I like mixing it up and I like to smile the whole time... My hope is when I get the Jak out on a banner day that they will shine even more. Good luck in your descision!