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  1. 12-22-2005, 09:36 AM #1
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    WTF: I am starting to hate Looks

    old brakes:


    new fat brakes (note the size of the two "teeth" compared to the old ones):


    Arrghhhh...who does this!?!

    Alright now down to business. Would it be advisable to Dremel the new "teeth" down to the same size as the old "teeth" to fit into the bindings?

    Any other bright ideas from the maggot horde?
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  2. 12-22-2005, 09:43 AM #2
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    Are those both for Pivot bindings, or is the "new" one you have there for the PX binding?

    If Dremeling it down will make it fit, and hold securely, I don't see any reason not to go that route.
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  3. 12-22-2005, 09:48 AM #3
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    as far as I know they're both Pivot brakes. My bindngs are around 2001 or so and these brakes are for 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
    Are those both for Pivot bindings, or is the "new" one you have there for the PX binding?
    I don't know what the PX takes, but those are both definitely for the Pivot bindings. Other people have had the same problem. Unfortunately, I don't know how they solved it.
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  5. 12-22-2005, 03:07 PM #5
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    The PX takes the same brakes as the old TX/FTX stepins. In fact, the entire metal heel track is identical, so you could probably swap the two.

    I'm 99% sure that the modern step-ins (Nova) also use the same track and brakes, but I don't have one here to look at.
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  6. 12-22-2005, 03:13 PM #6
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    I don't have the PX, TX or FTX's. I have a pair of older Pivots.
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  7. 12-22-2005, 03:21 PM #7
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    French bastards. They're doing it just to annoy you.
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    In order for these to work, you need the XXC and the CXT adapters.
    If it weren't for serendipity, there'd be no dipity at all
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  9. 12-22-2005, 03:47 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by powking12
    Arrghhhh...who does this!?!
    Salomon does.
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  10. 12-22-2005, 04:42 PM #10
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    Don't let my wife see this but...I think it is the French homos trying to screw us up. They just have this inferiority complex. Not that they aren't inferior, they are, but they don't have to get their baguettes in a bunch about it. And Dynastar's website sucks.

    Train - are you serious about these adaptors or just FOS?
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  11. 12-22-2005, 04:43 PM #11
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    The Canadian French are especially bad.
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  12. 12-22-2005, 04:59 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by powking12
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    Quote Originally Posted by powking12
    Train - are you serious about these adaptors or just FOS?
    Well, I wouldn't spend too much time looking for those adapters cause, uh, they no longer make em.
    Send me your heel pieces and I'll look at them.
    If it weren't for serendipity, there'd be no dipity at all
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  14. 12-23-2005, 12:09 AM #14
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    Same shit happened to me. I had a bunch of shop guys try to jimmy them into place using all different kinds of methods. One shop let me have full run of all their tools and everything, but I couldn't get it to work. I ended up just slapping the binders on without brakes.
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  15. 12-23-2005, 12:26 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by phUnk
    Salomon does.
    But, all Salomon's brakes (including the wide asym. brakes for making Spatula brakes) back to the 757s are available in their parts catalog. Any shop can order them. Or you can swap arms easy from a new set of wide brakes with the round back into an old brake arm housing that has a square back.
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  16. 12-27-2005, 03:58 AM #16
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    update:

    I decided not to dremel the new tabs down. With the help of a vise and various pliers I tore the new bindings apart, switched out the new metal plates for the old ones, managed to put them back together (mostly) and now I am good to go.

    Oh, wait it doesn't matter 'cause it was +10 degrees here today

    Thanks to the maggs for all advice.
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  17. 12-27-2005, 05:12 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by powking12
    Not that they aren't inferior, they are, ..
    Good thing there are so many well & american made high DIN binders to choose from then; with american binding manufacturing being of such high standards why even bother with the french stuff?
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  18. 12-27-2005, 09:30 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telepath
    Good thing there are so many well & american made high DIN binders to choose from then; with american binding manufacturing being of such high standards why even bother with the french stuff?
    I saw a pair of Line Pivogy binders out at KW yesterday. First time I've ever seen them outside of a shop. Do those count?
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  19. 12-28-2005, 12:53 PM #19
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    your first picture is of the first year pivot brakes that were notorious for falling off the binding/ski, this was solved in the interim by having a little pin drilled/pushed through the binding to "fix" the brake in place
    after the first production run/year the teeth were bigger/more substantial and negated the use of the pin and the brakes quit falling off anyways

    i'm gueesing you are trying to put the new "fat" brakes on older bindings? iirc that will not work as the interface is quite different...
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