What skis would you pick?

**AjaxWSP** · 11-10-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I dont know if this helps, but usually I ski 55-60% off-piste and 40-45% groomers.

it helps a lot.....go with the K2 recon! you will not be dissapointed. I have skied that ski in 30" of fresh untracked powder and it does fine! I have also mached down spar gulch and it holds strong on the groom. You can pick them up cheap, many sizes, good wood core, you can't go wrong!

PS what K2s where you skiing that you are not happy with?

edit for spelling.

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

how frequently are you in mi vs. co

I go to school in MI. Take a ski trip out to Colo 1-2 times a year for about a week each time. After I graduate I plan on moving out to UT or Colo to work, so it will be a lot more skiing for me next year.

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by AjaxWSP

it helps a lot.....go with the K2 recon! you will not be dissapointed. I have skied that ski in 30" of fresh untracked powder and it does fine! I have also mached down spar gulch and it holds strong on the groom. You can pick them up cheap, many sizes, good wood core, you can't go wrong!

PS what K2s where you skiing that you are not happy with?

edit for spelling.

I was riding the Escape 5500 unlimited and they weren't what I thought they would be.

**marshalolson** · 11-10-2005, 04:22 PM

i'd say get a real ski now, learn how it rip the shit out of it in MI and then show up to co/ut stylin.

178 g4/ax4 would be your best bet IMHO

**AjaxWSP** · 11-10-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I was riding the Escape 5500 unlimited and they weren't what I thought they would be.

Junk Junk Junk....the recon will be the ski you hoped the Escape 5500 was! Constuction and materials are so important, the recon is in a different league than the escape 5500.

**jstead** · 11-10-2005, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Elkhound Odin

Volkl Karma
Dynastar 8800

Now off to the demo days with you

yeah what this guy says. Go demo demo demo

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

i'd say get a real ski now, learn how it rip the shit out of it in MI and then show up to co/ut stylin.

178 g4/ax4 would be your best bet IMHO

I already have a real ski, I just wanted to get an all mountain ski now.

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by jstead

yeah what this guy says. Go demo demo demo

Yeah that is what I will try to do this year when I head out west.

**marshalolson** · 11-10-2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I already have a real ski, I just wanted to get an all mountain ski now.

right a 178 g4 would be a perfect a/m ski (83mm waist - not super soft) enough sidecut to hold on firm snow

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by AjaxWSP

Junk Junk Junk....the recon will be the ski you hoped the Escape 5500 was! Constuction and materials are so important, the recon is in a different league than the escape 5500.

Is the recon the ski that took over where the escape series was before?

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

right a 178 g4 would be a perfect a/m ski (83mm waist - not super soft) enough sidecut to hold on firm snow

Volkl doesn't make these skis anymore do they?

**marshalolson** · 11-10-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Volkl doesn't make these skis anymore do they?

so there is this thing called the internet.

search on it.

find new old stock/lightly used

buy it.

or find some 724 pros (77mm waist) from last year.

get the flat mount version and put some decent bindings on 'em

**Elkhound Odin** · 11-10-2005, 04:57 PM

the karma replaced the g4/ax4
I believe the Recon used to be the Axis xp. I thought it was a great ski for the groomed and highly maneuverable, but not so good in the crud. I thought the waist was a bit too thin.
I found the 80-90mm waist skis to be perfect all 'rounders

**AjaxWSP** · 11-10-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Elkhound Odin

the karma replaced the g4/ax4
I believe the Recon used to be the Axis xp. I thought it was a great ski for the groomed and highly maneuverable, but not so good in the crud. I thought the waist was a bit too thin.
I found the 80-90mm waist skis to be perfect all 'rounders

the recon is or was the Axis XP. the ski does well in crud and powder. It does it all good. nothing great but all very good.

this guy wants an all mountain ski.....skis half his time on the groom half his time off. no way in the world would anyone recommend a 80-90mm waisted ski. you don't need that!

**Hayduke** · 11-10-2005, 05:12 PM

Stockli Stormrider XL.

Demo them. You won't give 'em back.

**marshalolson** · 11-10-2005, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by AjaxWSP

this guy wants an all mountain ski.....skis half his time OFF the groom half his time off. no way in the world would anyone recommend a 66-75mm waisted ski. you don't need that!

here you go... fixed it for you

if you can't carve an 83mm waist ski

**stayhigh** · 11-10-2005, 05:25 PM

Head IM88, I ski the im85s which are good on crud, not great on groomers. From what I have read, the 88's hold a strong edge, and you get the width for everything else. If you just want to rail groomers in Michigan, go with rc4 wcs.

**alpinepronghorn** · 11-10-2005, 05:29 PM

Volkl G4/724 AX4/whatever they're calling it these days. If you're only skiing one ski, you're going to want something that'll take abuse a bit better than the foam core crew. Decent floatation, great stability, plus it can carve on piste like a champ. Put a freeride on it if you're into it, and you've got a pretty damn good quiver of one. If not, I'm with AjaxWSP on getting a two piece binding.

enjoy!

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

i'd say get a real ski now, learn how it rip the shit out of it in MI and then show up to co/ut stylin.

178 g4/ax4 would be your best bet IMHO

Now the Volkl Vertigo G4 is the same as the Volkl G4/AX4's? I have awhile trying to find a pair online and it has been very hard. The only pair that I have come across so far is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLKL-G4_W0QQite...QQcmdZViewItem

and

http://www.geartrade.com/browse/116/789/457/item/30220

The only thing I am worried about is whether the 168 might be too short as I am now riding a 174. But that is an awesome deal for the 168.

**marshalolson** · 11-10-2005, 07:08 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLKL-G4_W0QQite...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/03-VOLKL-VERTIGO...QQcmdZViewItem

also look for volkl g40 or g41 all the same thing @ 178cm

**tranzformer** · 11-10-2005, 07:45 PM

Would anyone who has skied the Volkl G4/AX4's care to comment what they thought about the ski and if they would recommend it?

**milkman** · 11-10-2005, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Would anyone who has skied the Volkl G4/AX4's care to comment what they thought about the ski and if they would recommend it?

The G4 is one of the best skis ever made. Stiff, stable, and bombproof. Do a quick search to see what people think of them....

**Godwin-Austin** · 11-10-2005, 10:21 PM

Rossis suck...oh gosh, dont buy rossis.

**gforce** · 11-10-2005, 10:38 PM

Second the opinion on the G4 and its many different names over the years. Great all mountain ski that can take serious abuse and not go soft after 30 days. I think it belongs in everyone's quiver.

**Godwin-Austin** · 11-10-2005, 10:40 PM

yes, yes - the G4...

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