Scratch BC/Fritschi Freeride Mounting Q's

[lexpowers]

I was wondering if it would be adviseable to mount forward of the "modern" line on scratches... if so, to what extent? I'm told the progressive sidecut would feel awkward ahead... I don't want to be centered but it just seems that both mounting locations are in the back seat. Also... I read a couple articles on ski mounting and I can't get a clear idea of what size drill bit to use to mount freerides... I read 4.1mm for metal skis and 3.6-3.9mm for non-metal skis. I know its getting nit-picky but where in the 3.6-3.9 range should I be? thanks

[brutah]

I ride the BC's with regular nontouring bindings and I mount them 1 cm forward. If I was to put some touring bindings on them I would probably do the same but that is just me.

[flatlander#2]

I have 183 freerides mounted trad. am 6' 195(ahem) lbs...was told the modern would feel like going over the bars all the time. They're a pretty soft tip and I think bombing around with that loaded would be reckless.

[72Twenty]

If you're not sure, use a 3.9 and tap the holes before mounting.





(heh heh....)


Do you have access to a tap tool? If not, the ghetto way to do it, as I have done many times, is to pre-thread the new holes with a binding screw, but not with the binding on; just screw in the screw and back it out to create the threads. Then dab a little wood glue and proceed to mount the binding.

Also, remember that on your Freerides you are going to be raised up quite a ways off the ski. (I am on my Naxo's). That might change the way you feel on the ski, as opposed to skiing on a non-riser alpine binding.

Good luck, and if you fuck up the skis, I'd be happy to take them off your hands for a sixer and a turkey leg.

[Ira]

There are 2 boot center lines: Freeride and Modern (2cm forward). this is how the engineers designed the ski to perform it's best. you might want to at least TRY the manufacturer's reccomneded center line...

and Don't mount on teh modern line unless you will be spinning off kickers and not cruising the powder. just not as fun.

Ira

[addict]

We had them in our rental fleet 2 seasons ago. I ski a little forward compared to most, but had them a good 1cm back even from the traditional line on the 188s in pow. Good fun ski in the powpow gnargnar though, waaaay better tha PRs (imo) for a similar cut ski, good for touring due to lightness, but don't treat em bad, they're Rossis and they break. Core seems to be foam/wood stringer similar to G4s? Ayone know for sure?

[Ira]

The new Scratch BCs are an all new ski. wider and MUCH stiffer.

the core is THC (Triple Hybrid Core) and taken from the Brochure:
Isocore (foam) - for liveliness and snap
Wood -for response and ski/snow feel
Microcell (plastic and fiberglass) - for shock absorption

Microcell is what is used in the Bandit skis, but I don't think it would qualify as foam. it is a milled plastic...

Ira

[lingcod]

I have my naked lady scratch bc mounted for alpine 1 cm back, and they're great. I'm mounting them this week with freerides, and I'll put them in the exact same spot. I don't think I'd go forward at all.

[Buzzworthy]

I have a pair of BCs on the way and will be mounting 1 CM back, that is the consensus of what I have read and heard from others. Yes, Freerides also.

[Vinman]

I have a pair of BCs on the way and will be mounting 1 CM back, that is the consensus of what I have read and heard from others. Yes, Freerides also.

Buzz, becarefu mouting that far back. The scratch BC gets pretty thin back there. i mounted my S BCs yesterday. Snice the FR is longer than alpine binders the heel screws, especially the last one, sit in a pretty thin area.

I ended up mouting just barely behind the traditional boot sole line maybe 2 mm or so and it was getting thin even then.

Might want to measure the width of the ski back there to be sure that last screw doesn't punch though.

[Vinman]

I'm not sure which model Scratch BC you have, but I went and measured how think the ski is at 1 cm back from the last screw in the heel piece on mine. It is a about 1/2 inch back there from the base to the top sheet. The screws need about 3/16ths or so and if you take out the depth of the p-tex you'd be looking at about 1/4 of an inch or less room for error.

I'm not shop monkey so I'm not sure if that is too thin or not maybe someone else could comment.

[lingcod]

Dang, this is getting complicated. Now I'll have to think about this. Thanks.

[Buzzworthy]

I'm not sure which model Scratch BC you have, but I went and measured how think the ski is at 1 cm back from the last screw in the heel piece on mine. It is a about 1/2 inch back there from the base to the top sheet. The screws need about 3/16ths or so and if you take out the depth of the p-tex you'd be looking at about 1/4 of an inch or less room for error.

I'm not shop monkey so I'm not sure if that is too thin or not maybe someone else could comment.

I have a guy at the LSS that will help me out and mount em. Hoping skis are in the mail at this point.

Thanks for the updates though. Good info. I may not go that far back now.

[ulty_guy]

anyone mounting old bc's and freerides (buzz, lingcod) get this done yet? could you go 1 cm behind the freeride line with the freerides? what size freerides?

thanks

[Vinman]

my S BCs are the ones with the glossy black top sheet so first or second year. I mounted medium FRs to what ended up being about 2mm behind the traditional mount line.

I think you could go 1 cm back but it does start to get thin back there. With a large FR 1 cm back might be pushing it.

[crashnburn'd]

I think it would sort of depend on the length... Vin you have 182's? I had a pair of the original shiny black 188's and with alpine bindings, mounted on the line, they had a lot of tail.

[Vinman]

yeah mine are 182 and you are prolly right about the ski lenght. But a larger FR on a 188 would prolly be close to a medium on a 182 though...?

[Buzzworthy]

Black ones too, 176, M freerides and have not received my skis in the mail just yet, so no mounting. I am now thinking around 2 MM back as well, since I have a shorter ski than all ya all. Depends on how far back I can get em without getting into the thinner base.

[Vinman]

I actually intended to mount on the centerline, but it just turned out to be 2mm back. If I had to to do over I would likely do 5mm back. But with a shorter ski and medium FRs 5mm might be as far back as you could go without running into trouble.