What happened to long radius charging skis?

[El Chupacabra]

What happened to long radius chargers? Like upper 20m radius (preferably 35+), metal layer, burly, stiff skis? In 188-192cm ish range.

Wandering through ski stores and looking online, everything has like 16-19m radius dimensions, very few are any longer than around 184cm.

Does a ski exist that's basically a narrow (say 100-105mm) Head A Star? I want something with some camber under foot, a bit of tip rocker, metal layer, and doesn't get deflected by crap. A crud crushing destroyer that only turns when I want to turn, not when the sidecut demands a turn. Not a pow ski, but something that handles everything else.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

The Armada Declivity X one zero eight fits the description in longest length. Basically an updated Invictus

[stealurface831]

sounds like a praxis FRD.

[GoldMember]

Dynastar MPro one zero eight in one ninety two fits the bill.

[TAFKALVS]

Have you heard of Heritage Labs?

No metal but you won’t notice the lack.

[El Chupacabra]

Dynastar MPro one zero eight in one ninety two fits the bill.

I demo 'd that ski in early season conditions (basically groomers, very little that wasn't groomed). I couldn't get it off my feet fast enough. Could've been the tune, but something about it was just weird - - I remember it feeling wandery, vague, basically a base high feel.

[grinch]

Praxis rx

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[El Chupacabra]

I need to take a closer look at the Heritage Labs stuff.

[Norseman]

Yes you do.

[Marshal Olson]

What happened to long radius chargers? Like upper 20m radius (preferably 35+), metal layer, burly, stiff skis? In 188-192cm ish range. Wandering through ski stores and looking online, everything has like 16-19m radius dimensions, very few are any longer than around 184cm. Does a ski exist that's basically a narrow (say 100-105mm) Head A Star? I want something with some camber under foot, a bit of tip rocker, metal layer, and doesn't get deflected by crap. A crud crushing destroyer that only turns when I want to turn, not when the sidecut demands a turn. Not a pow ski, but something that handles everything else.

Yo man! You of course know my love of the A-star. For sure take a look at the Fl105, which is exactly my riff on what you describe. And hit me up any time with q's

[Truckee Joe]

HL Fl105

[GoldMember]

"I demo d that ski in early season conditions (basically groomers, very little that wasnt groomed). I couldn't get it off my feet fast enough. Couldve been the tune, but something about it was just weird - - I remember it feeling wandery, vague, basically a base high feel."

I dont have that problem at all. It is a fun powder ski but impressed me more with how it charged the crud. I love mine but to each their own. And I agree, may have been the tune. I also tip a cap to TAFKALVSs opinion on the HL. I havent skied them but skied with him while he was on them and he ripped just fine. Also, I trust his opinion so he is probably onto something.

[El Chupacabra]

Yo man! You of course know my love of the A-star. For sure take a look at the Fl105, which is exactly my riff on what you describe. And hit me up any time with q's

Thanks - that 105 looks sweet on paper. Gotta give it some thought.

[shroom]

it is sweet

[pfluffenmeister]

FL105 rocks!

[2FUNKY]

Gonna fourth of whatever the HL one nine two FLone oh five. It’s exactly what you are looking for. The RC ninety five is another skinnier option.


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[The Iron Horse]

FL105.

[east or bust]

Alternatively, I find the 185 FL105 to notch in really nicely as a ski that might give up 10-15% top end for a lot more maneuverability in tech terrain.

Can confirm they really do feel like there’s metal in em.


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[altacoup]

Metal is overrated, the A-star you reference has no metal. Great ski. I always felt that ski was James Heim going to head ski engineers and asking them to make a hoji style ski, but the Head ski engineers couldn’t comprehend a ski with no camber. I think they sold like ten pairs at retail as they were easily available super discounted. Stated radius on skis is a joke. HL and fourfrnt are the only companies I know of with long radius skis. I own some blade optics and the stated radius is short but they certainly don’t ski like the stated radius nor do Salomon blanks.


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[tuco]

My understanding of the a star development is Heim and Chickering Ayers wanted a more compable version of the Boneshaker(no metal, 125uf, long low fore body rocker, minimal camber, flared tail and 32.5tr). Beast of a ski and w/ all the love espoused for the a star here, I can't believe I'm the only one that ever talks about how bad assed of a ski the Boneshaker/Carlos line was

[tuco]

Oh yeah.Marshall, my current Bones need a little love and I haven't been able to dedicate any time fixing them, but would love to get you out on them when I've got a pair in good working order. I think we even wear the same size boot @ 28.5?

[bluesbrother49]

Blizzard Anomaly 102 192cm

[DarthMarkus]

What happened to long radius chargers? Like upper 20m radius (preferably 35+), metal layer, burly, stiff skis? In 188-192cm ish range. Wandering through ski stores and looking online, everything has like 16-19m radius dimensions, very few are any longer than around 184cm. Does a ski exist that's basically a narrow (say 100-105mm) Head A Star? I want something with some camber under foot, a bit of tip rocker, metal layer, and doesn't get deflected by crap. A crud crushing destroyer that only turns when I want to turn, not when the sidecut demands a turn. Not a pow ski, but something that handles everything else.

Volkl Revolt 114 sports 21m on the short end, 27m on the longer end. Whatever their weird radii designations are, I notice the bigger number most on my revolt 104s as long as I have the ski on edge. $380 for last years graphic. https://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/volkl-revolt-114-2024 Edit: I did just buy some Sender Squads as well - could probably include that in the list. Also, RE: Mpro 108s. That ski felt inconsistent as well. I re-edged mine and detuned the tip and tails with a gummy. Seemed to do the trick. Now they feel like Cadillacs

[XXX-er]

The first thing I've always looked at is advertised turning Radius but I've got so many skis now I havent looked any in awhile,


I like/ looked for a 26M radius so the crazy big radius of the Lotus 120 was worriesome but turned out to be easy to slarve or just crank sideways any time

[Dantheman]

I did just buy some Sender Squads as well - could probably include that in the list.

I considered making that recommendation for a hot second, but couldn't do it in good conscience since they're unobtanium now unless you get really lucky. They're wider than what Chup is looking for and have very little camber, but they certainly check the "crud crushing destroyer" box. Squads are like Sam Jackson's line in Jackie Brown about the AK47, "When you absolutely have to kill every motherfucka in the room, accept no substitute."I never even knew about the A-Star when it was being made, but I found D(C)'s review and think we'd get along splendidly. You had me at 2,600+ grams.