"Lightweight" Pow Touring Skis

[Muggydude]

Get a 2020-2024 Bent Chetler 120.

1800-1850gSki weird snow really good (extensive alps testing).

I think they ski like a super easy going renegade. And they can be had used for a great price.

Can't vouch for the updated 2025 version.

How far behind true center you mount your binding for with that ski? Thinking -7cm (-4cm behind recommended)

[North]

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Variable in my case means different types of soft snow including upside down pow, recycled facet pow, and all types of wind affected snow. Rarely find myself on actual hardpack before April and I have different skis for that.</p>
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I am light at ~160lbs. Stance is pretty forward from past racing days, but I get along with skis that work with a centered stance ie hoji stuff. Skinning on wide skis does not bother me. Prefer 115+ touring skis to 110s for CO winter snow and snowpack. Still searching for the sweet spot on the BG Tours. In upside down pow the front of the ski felt very engaged and the pintail very loose and I seesawed in between those opposing feelings trying to find a predictable medium. I skied an older pair of asyms a few seasons ago and remember them feeling a bit too loose at times but not to this degree.</p>
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Other touring skis that I have owned and enjoyed:</p>
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186 EHP</p>
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187 Red/White Hoji - wished it was offered in a 191</p>
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188 Orange QST</p>
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200 Lotus 138</p>
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191 Wolf Renegade</p>

[ski whore]

Fav lightweight-ish deep pow touring ski is a 190 nocta w MTN pure


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[TG]

for those on the vwk katana, how light a boot can you get away with? does it need a boot with more mass/stifness? will it respond to finesse in a lighter boot (f1 xt or similar)

[mr_pretzel]

The heritage UT122 is a no brainer here

[Steffen1]

• The Moonlight Cruiser stands out amongst the flock if you have a relatively traditional mount/posture. 120mm, 186cm, and super duper lightweight... Blister (Paul Forward) has some content on this but no formal reviews yet.
• Also the Faction La Machine 4 (117mm) and 5 (126mm) are uber lightweight. I would love to get on the 117mm but know I wont be happy with such a very directional ski (very soft and tapered tip, short firm tail). Its probably awesome though for many skiers.
• Bit of a shame that ALL properly lightweight skis are so &quot;traditional&quot;, when such a big portion of skiers prefers more symetrical shapes with -5-7cm mounts...
• The Majesty Vanguard Carbon is wide (116-118mm) and comes in sizing up to 194cm with a forward mount point. Its light but far from ultralight and the shovel is surprisingly much softer than the tail. (by hand flex)
• I had the G3 Slayr 195cm and loved but hated it. 1880g on my scales. I wrote a long-form review here. Sounds like a lot of other people have gotten along well with that ski which makes me jealous...
• I mostly tour on 2200g skis with 375g bindings and find this to be acceptable most of the time.
• 2023 Vision108 189cm floats really well for its width though (wide shovel) and tips the scales at an astonishing 1665g
• I briefly had some 2024 Vision118s which averaged 2075g in 189cm length.

[skis_the_trees]

RE: North:
Your variable snow description matches my midwinter touring snow. I also have a forward stance but don't get along with forward mounts, only traditional mounts need apply.

If you have a chance to try the 184cm VWK it will excel in everything you mentioned. Flat tails, low continuous rocker, traditional tip with no separate early rise means it does not see-saw. You can push the front of the ski like it's a metal layered GS ski and it will ask for more; then it can amazingly still pivot and smear when asked. And if you find yourself on hardpack you will find it amazingly capable for the weight/width (no flop, no chatter, all business!). It can ski low angle trees but prefers some speed to feel alive and more responsive. I don't have experience with the other skis you mentioned so I cannot compare to them. I was skiing rain crust on upside down snow a few months ago and my wife was ready to die on her Moments; in comparison I was actually still having some fun on the VWK!

RE: TG: I am skiing my 184 VWK with a two buckle La Sportiva Spitfire 2.1 which is a similar class of boot to the F1 XT. I do 95% of my touring in this boot. Yes, you can ski harder with a beefier boot (for me that's the Dynafit Vulcan) but for soft snow touring the Spitfires are fine. FYI for my size the 184 is more a touring size, if this was my inbounds ski I would probably be on the 191 and I surmise the 191 would be best suited to my Vulcans if I was to tour on them.

[Westcoaster]

That sounds about right. minimal time on em, but i dont find the vwk to be very demanding, and they pivot fantastically when run bases flat. Theyre not noodles though, and an F1lt type boot will probably (definitely) flex out well before the ski. FWIW, Ive only skied em with old gen ZGTP and GFTs. Kinda beefy setup but not sure the performance/weight gets any better. And ditto re sizing, im a ~185cm and the 184cm is definitely a touring size, would ski 191cm in bounds.

[Self Jupiter]

I use the generation of 4FRNT Inthaynes that were lighter than the OG version but still full reverse for this. The latest version has some camber.

I have the 181s and I believe they’re ~1750 grams a ski. I’d use the 188s if I lived out west and I like them so much for this role that I’m considering getting a set of 188s if I can find them.

This is the version I’ve got:

https://www.newschoolers.com/ski-gea...s/331/Inthayne

[rod9301]

RE: North:
Your variable snow description matches my midwinter touring snow. I also have a forward stance but don't get along with forward mounts, only traditional mounts need apply.

If you have a chance to try the 184cm VWK it will excel in everything you mentioned. Flat tails, low continuous rocker, traditional tip with no separate early rise means it does not see-saw. You can push the front of the ski like it's a metal layered GS ski and it will ask for more; then it can amazingly still pivot and smear when asked. And if you find yourself on hardpack you will find it amazingly capable for the weight/width (no flop, no chatter, all business!). It can ski low any trees but prefers some speed to feel alive and more responsive. I don't have experience with the other skis you mentioned so I cannot compare to them. I was skiing rain crust on upside down snow a few months ago and my wife was ready to die on her Moments; in comparison I was actually still having some fun on the VWK!

RE: TG: I am skiing my 184 VWK with a two buckle La Sportiva Spitfire 2.1 which is a similar class of boot to the F1 XT. I do 95% of my touring in this boot. Yes, you can ski harder with a beefier boot (for me that's the Dynafit Vulcan) but for soft snow touring the Spitfires are fine. FYI for my size the 184 is more a touring size, if this was my inbounds ski I would probably be on the 191 and I surmise the 191 would be best suited to my Vulcans if I was to tour on them.

Or the dynafit hoji 130, which is what i have, 2 pairs


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