Ideas:long radius stiff skis

[Meathelmet]

[QUOTE=Vitamin I]

But you said looooooooong turn radius:
so throw down on iggies or else buy head m103, or settle for explosives.

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Karma.
I ski with the im.103s (183), Explosivs (180) and Gotamas (183).
The sidecut might seem similar,but skis couldnt be much more different.
Well, of course they could be, but.

All the skis rule.They are superb skis,but none of them is a "one-ski-quiver".

These words have prolly been said before but, lets say them again.

Gotama: Playfull,light,energetic,jumpy.Like a fat jackrussel terrier.Suprisingly stable at speed.Doesnt like tracked out pow or icy munc, but manages those too.Works very well in trees and tights.

Explosiv:Predictable,needs concentration, poor "carver" on softer underlay due to stiff nose (it doesnt bend to turn,but goes straight), very good on steeps and jumpturns, takes abuse, good in tights and trees.A peppy little bugger, like a bull terrier.Not an american pit bull terrier, but a bull terrier.

im.103: Stable, predictable,good in steeps (but not like those two above) doesnt like trees or sudden changes of direction, utterly destroys crud,chop,tracked pow,automobiles,sunchairs or children in their way.
Like a bullmastiff on angel dust.
Sidewalls are bound to crack though. But you can glue them back to gether and continue skiing.

[karma]

Anybody skied a 188 bro supa stiff and the m103? Comparisons? Sounds like im down to those two.

[splat]

Ask ATrain, CUBUCK, snorkeldeep, or funken. They all have superstiffs.

[Vicious]

Armada ANT. I just got my first up close look at them the other day...I want some!

Large radius, not much sidecut and burly as hell.

[descender]

Armada ANT. I just got my first up close look at them the other day...I want some!

Large radius, not much sidecut and burly as hell.

I agree. Very solid and stiff. More burl that the gots if that is what you are after.

[Darkside]

The sidecut of the ANT is similar to the Squad, I believe, leaving it with a radius in the mid to high 20's.

As for the dilemna before regarding Gotama v. Explosive turn radius. I would have to say that they twintip of the Gotama was factored in, having a running length of about 170cm vs. 178ish on the Explosive. Just a thought.

[gramboh]

Anyone know how the new 4FRNT VCT compares to the ANT? Or the MSP Supermodel (it is thinner though). ANT looks very cool.

[Vicious]

The VCT is made with BC and skinning in mind. Not real stiff by comparison to the ANT, although if you step up to the 190 it is fairly stiff. I haven't skied nor held a Supermodel, but from what I hear, they are quite burly too, but will have more sidecut than either the ANT or VCT.

If someone was considering those three, I'd say go with the ANT due to price alone. The Supermodels and VCTs are both pricey as hell.

[Dside11-11]

i have
2004/2005 K2 Apache Chief 188cm 126-98-116 about 31.1m radius(190) (but probably flexes a lot)

Yeah - despite having little sidecut, I noticed that ski to come around like nobody's business, even on hp. Extremely easy carving fatty.

[Atrain505]

From Meathelmet's description of i.m103's with changes for supa-stiff bros.

Supa-stiff Bros: Stable, predictable,good in steeps, does like trees or sudden changes of direction, utterly destroys crud,chop,tracked pow,automobiles,sunchairs or children in their way.
Like a bullmastiff on angel dust.

i.e. just as powerful, but more nimble and a little bit more forgiving.
Don't get lazy though or they will eat you like the Bro's they are.