25/26 gear rumors thread

[Sessiøn]

Yeah, kudos to Tom for sticking it out. You guys are generally being dicks about it, which is par for the course for TGR and I generally wouldn’t have it any other way.

Also why the industry engages less and less with TGR every year.

[tragicsolitude]

No it hasn't. Racers have trained with it, tested it, but it hasn't been used in a World Cup race yet.

Thanks for the clarification. Saw all the shots of the upper boa under the race suits and assumed that if their training in them, they'd racing them too.

[byates1]

Will it be a pia to get the pant cuff over boa?

[FloridaSnow]

Kinda interesting that everyone is definitively shitting on Boa, saying that it will never do the job like a buckle, will break daily, ................ without ever having tried it. If you don't like it don't buy it. I'm curious to see where this goes and how it works. I've been duly impressed by the Boa products I've tried, whether it was simply trying them on or using them for more than a decade.

it’s honestly hilarious when people talk about the durability of alpine boa. As if boa and all these ski boot companies just pumped out a product and threw it on a boot and started selling it saying “let’s see what happens”. Alpine boa was literally tested for years with hard use for durability and by all accounts its been stronger than buckles in those tests, easier to repair and cheaper to repair.

[XXX-er]

Their designers probably have no idea what good looks like because they never think about such things, don’t monitor trends, and never do market research. I can’t believe they haven’t hired you yet.

Also, though, does that Remedy come in anything besides butter?

when Eddy Vedder wrote " I wish I was the full moon shining off your Camaro's hood " it was not one of these new colors

I mean " Butter " for a happening ski boot give me a break, a lot of the new ski boots look like they come already puked on

I looked at " new " colors ordering a truck and I had to go white, we should just make ALL ski boots white OR why have a color at all my Dalbellos are clear ?

[GoldenBC]

I could not ski anything but mellow groomers unbuckled in my intuition/Krypton combo so I'm a bit hesitant of a double boa. .

What does this have to do with BOA? Also, you should be able to ski varied terrain with your boots undone. Standard training.

[NWFlow]

I mean if tom is saying they gave the athletes 4 buckle and boa boots to choose from and they chose the boa, I don't really think that's Tom's fault.

I for one am never super happy with any ski boots I have so am all for something new. I frickin love the boa systems I've had on touring boot lowers so it's hard for me to see how they'll suck on the cuffs.

[XXX-er]

especily the rear entry boots, you were on your ass if you were in the back seat

[Dee Hubbs]

Double boa has been used since at least last season in racing.

No it hasn't. Racers have trained with it, tested it, but it hasn't been used in a World Cup race yet.

Since we are arguing semantics...
Are you referring to only Atomic? Or are you saying that you are certain that a double BOA has not been used by any of the other manufactures' athletes in a WC race?

[gregL]

Also why the industry engages less and less with TGR every year.

When did the ski industry engage with TGR in the past? Matt, Tom and Marshal are exceptions; willing to take the time online to share what they know. Fede Sbrissa used to consider it part of his job. There are others who lurk more or less daily but never post, but the number has remained pretty constant over the years.

[FloridaSnow]

Since we are arguing semantics...
Are you referring to only Atomic? Or are you saying that you are certain that a double BOA has not been used by any of the other manufactures' athletes in a WC race?

it’s been pretty well documented that no brands have used double boa in actual competition runs. Head was testing them a bunch in practice runs and pictures were showing up. But come comp time they all had switched back to buckles.

[XXX-er]

https://www.boafit.com/en-us/ski

I duno who sold BOA to the ski boot industry or how/ why they did but I'm pretty sure we are all just BOAing period end of sentence if one look at the mfgers in that link who are on the program and i think it doesnt really matter at least not to me

[iriponsnow]

Can we FN stop it w/ the BOA $#!+ ; I have never been lesser stoked for new gear.

Thank you Marshal and Sali for at least putting out new skis/clamps....

[FloridaSnow]

Can we FN stop it w/ the BOA $#!+ ; I have never been lesser stoked for new gear.

Thank you Marshal and Sali for at least putting out new skis/clamps....

boa is the biggest thing for 25-26. So no we can’t stop.

[MCskid]

Can we FN stop it w/ the BOA $#!+ ; I have never been lesser stoked for new gear.

Thank you Marshal and Sali for at least putting out new skis/clamps....

What new clamps? Missed it in this absolutely riveting discussion of boa.

[gaijin]

I’m not smart enough to know if I love or hate BOA, but is it possible for a peasant like me to get one of those limited edition magenta langes? Who is the JP distributor?

Regardless— stoked on the tech toes and no walk mode stuff coming out. Might be enough to let the Lange fantasy go.

Only fear I can imagine from BOA is slack each run and long-term longevity.

That atomic butter is sexy as fuck, too.

We’ll see what fits.


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[Dee Hubbs]

boa is the biggest thing for 25-26. So no we can’t stop.

I wear a 27, so can I stick with 4 buckles then?

[carlh]

Props to Tom and Matt for putting up with our bullshit and making good gear. I am in the camp that the butter boot is ugly but tempted anyway for a stiffer atomic fit boot. Also want to try the cortex’s. Boa sounds like it might have benefits, light boots for inbound not so much.

[GoldenBC]

boa is the biggest thing for 25-26. So no we can’t stop.

No it isn’t. Don’t say dumb shit like that. Boa is a closure system. Leave it at that. The fact that atomic and k2 are both coming out with thick ass PU low volume freeride boots in a time where so many companies just want to cater to mass appeal, that is the biggest development for next year. These are bad ass boots made for us. That is fucking hype. And some are putting tech inserts in non walk mode boots for the even fewer weirdos out there. Don’t worry about boa.

[waxman]

Absolutely nobody telemarks anymore, but somehow Scarpa sold out of the new TX Pro just on pre orders. Too many undead zombies I guess.

Next year's TX Comp is the new product I'm most excited about.

"sold out" or never shipped? 2 different things there. We got none that we ordered and the store they told us did get some did not either.

[SkiLyft]

We all know there are clear benefits of coils vs air shocks on bikes.

Let’s make next year all about coils on boots.

[GoldenBC]

I think we want air. More progression is better

[Skiwald]

And reebok pump liners please.


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[ASmileyFace]

"sold out" or never shipped? 2 different things there. We got none that we ordered and the store they told us did get some did not either.

The TX Pro was the best selling boot at my shop this year by a solid margin. Did shops in canada not receive their orders? That sucks, but the exchange rate does too.

[pfluffenmeister]

And reebok pump liners please.

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Ooooh yes!!

Gnar line = +3 pumps.