Check Out Our Shop
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 26 to 45 of 45

Thread: Rossi broken binding…what to do?

  1. #26
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sierra Foothills
    Posts
    769
    ^^^ good catch. I can see that affecting the stress on the arms.

  2. #27
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the swamp
    Posts
    12,083
    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    Interesting that the two arms are adjusted to different lengths.
    Wow good eye. I didn’t do that or even knew you could do that. WTF?

  3. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,262
    Could have spun after breaking too. Even in your 2 pictures it's in different positions.
    Check your other heel piece

  4. #29
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    95
    Here's some more examples. I don't have a specific right and left ski so there should be even wear but only the right side cracks. These are old bindings and was probably a manufacturing defect.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PXL_20230113_032351280.jpg 
Views:	59 
Size:	1.30 MB 
ID:	508228Click image for larger version. 

Name:	PXL_20230113_015458172.jpg 
Views:	60 
Size:	1.25 MB 
ID:	508229

  5. #30
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Vinyl Valley
    Posts
    1,912
    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    Interesting that the two arms are adjusted to different lengths.

    hmmm, good observation... and the "shorter arm" is the broken side

  6. #31
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    da hood
    Posts
    1,185
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    It doesnt look under-engineered but if you think about it that heel piece is a nice long lever to break itself off the binding
    Not under engineered for 1980. By design the pivot heel has a lot of moving parts and is highly sensitive to how it is adjusted. I’ve seen dozens of these fail exactly like OP’s.

    It’s the dual carb equivalent of sports cars in the 70’s. When tuned correctly, they’re awesome.

  7. #32
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the swamp
    Posts
    12,083
    So Rossi is going to replace the turntable part. Question: should I do the fix myself or take it to a ski shop?

  8. #33
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    gamehendge
    Posts
    1,338
    can you operate a screwdriver?

  9. #34
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the swamp
    Posts
    12,083
    Quote Originally Posted by NBABUCKS1 View Post
    can you operate a screwdriver?
    Haha is it that easy? Do I need wood glue?

  10. #35
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    my own little world
    Posts
    6,247
    Yes, and you could use wood glue. Or epoxy. Or something. I use gasket maker. Philosophies vary re: whether you’re trying to create a bond between the screw and ski OR if you’re just trying to keep water out. I’m in the latter camp, but shit who the hell even knows in matters of religion, politics, and ski tech?
    focus.

  11. #36
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    In the swamp
    Posts
    12,083
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    Yes, and you could use wood glue. Or epoxy. Or something. I use gasket maker. Philosophies vary re: whether you’re trying to create a bond between the screw and ski OR if you’re just trying to keep water out. I’m in the latter camp, but shit who the hell even knows in matters of religion, politics, and ski tech?
    Is turning the screw by hand good enough or should it be tightened by a power screwdriver?

  12. #37
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    361
    Use power tools at your own risk, much easier to get a spinner with them then by hand

  13. #38
    Join Date
    Apr 2023
    Posts
    779
    Just make sure you’re using a pozidriv #3 so you don’t strip the screws.

  14. #39
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Truckee
    Posts
    2,327
    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    Interesting that the two arms are adjusted to different lengths.
    I must say this case has the cleanest, most unscratched condition of all similar cases of breaking that I have seen. So I always previously assumed that abuse and long-term wear played a factor. Maybe not, though.
    ...But I never worked at a shop, so I haven't seen as many cases as all the shop rats here.

    Yeah, next time, I'd adjust it so both arms are the same length, just to eliminate that possible variable.

    .
    - TRADE your heavy PROTESTS for my lightweight version at this thread

    "My biggest goal in life has always been to pursue passion and to make dreams a reality. I love my daughter, but if I had to quit my passions for her, then I would be setting the wrong example for her, and I would not be myself anymore. " -Shane

    "I'm gonna go SO OFF that NO ONE's ever gonna see what I'm gonna do!" -Saucerboy

  15. #40
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Location
    Down on Electric Avenue
    Posts
    5,092
    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Wow good eye. I didn’t do that or even knew you could do that. WTF?
    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    So Rossi is going to replace the turntable part. Question: should I do the fix myself or take it to a ski shop?
    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Haha is it that easy? Do I need wood glue?
    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Is turning the screw by hand good enough or should it be tightened by a power screwdriver?
    At this point, I'd suggest you pay a pro.

  16. #41
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    my own little world
    Posts
    6,247
    Can’t say I disagree.

  17. #42
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    SW Jongistan
    Posts
    516
    I may be full of sh-t here, but this is an application that I'd be wary of volcanoes in the ski topsheet from drilling/tapping/mounting the bindings. The screws are far inboard, and the heel arms far outboard. If the metal plate sits on top of a volcano rather than dead flat to the topsheet, it will be subject to a back-and-forth bending force from the arms that could lead to fatigue and increased chance of breakage at the place where people see breaks. (It will still see force if it's dead flat on the topsheet, but only bend in one direction.) I don't have access to a turntable heel at the moment to see how it sits on the ski, so you can ignore me if that is not a realistic concern.

    So I'd just wanna be careful and do a good job mounting / remounting. There are plenty of threads / places to show how to trim off volcanoes, if there are any.

  18. #43
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    77
    is it actually this acceptable to re-use screw holes?

  19. #44
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    33,932
    Sure ^^ If the screw doesnt strip with wood glue all you need is wood glue, if the hole strips the fix is to use slow set epoxy & a filler like steel wool or chopped FG, so I just use slow set for everything,

    if its just replacing the heelpiece in the same holes it should be easy

    every thing written in the last 2 pages has been repeated ad nauseum in the mount your own fucking ski thread
    Last edited by XXX-er; 12-28-2024 at 01:40 PM.
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  20. #45
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    2,942
    Quote Originally Posted by coldfeet View Post
    I may be full of sh-t here, but this is an application that I'd be wary of volcanoes in the ski topsheet from drilling/tapping/mounting the bindings. The screws are far inboard, and the heel arms far outboard. If the metal plate sits on top of a volcano rather than dead flat to the topsheet, it will be subject to a back-and-forth bending force from the arms that could lead to fatigue and increased chance of breakage at the place where people see breaks. (It will still see force if it's dead flat on the topsheet, but only bend in one direction.) I don't have access to a turntable heel at the moment to see how it sits on the ski, so you can ignore me if that is not a realistic concern.

    So I'd just wanna be careful and do a good job mounting / remounting. There are plenty of threads / places to show how to trim off volcanoes, if there are any.
    This particular break doesn't really effect the topsheet, it's just metal fatigue on the disc/upright. What you are concerned about does happen but really only on K2s with no binding mount reinforcement and one off "garage built skis. If the binding is mounted properly with waterproof glue etc it is as strong as any other mount.
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?
    fire

    rails are for trains
    If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.

    www.theguideshut.ca

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •