PARK CITY (and all) SKI PATROLLERS DESERVE MORE.

[grskier]

The plebeians need to just invest in the company they work for and appreciate the 1/1,000,000th of the return on their blood sweat and tears.

[schindlerpiste]

This is how companies spiral out of control. It would be a beautiful thing if Vail had to sell P.C. to Alterra, and then Alterra would do an interconnect from the Wasatch back to front. Wishful thinking

[Kevo]

Hopefully the lift mechanics in CB wait right up until presidents day or spring break and then walk off the job.

Everyone at all vail resorts properties should unionize. Lifties, lift maintenance, patrol, groomers. If you are in a department where people come back year after year you should be joining a union. There is no downside.

[beaterdit]

Prolly don’t have to tell you but there’s a palpable push to return the resort to local(ish?) ownership or otherwise force vail to get out. I hope they succeed. Fuck vail forever.

[beaterdit]

It ain't much but it's there.

https://www.freeparkcity.com/?fbclid...pPsQPKS2hEi0mQ

https://www.instagram.com/freeparkcity/

[TBS]

Yeahhh - there’s an effort by locals to acquire Mt Bachelor as well. They have slightly better than zero chance of making it happen.

[beaterdit]

Saw that and it’s awesome. Looks like they’ve got some momentum, and capital.

[Squirreljam]

Here’s the nyt article on Bachelor. Should be past paywallhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/us/mt-bachelor-ski-resort.html?unlocked_article_code=1.rk4.fX3F.AVDQP U16WAQe&smid=url-share

[Squirreljam]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/u...=url-sharePrev post won’t let me edit so the url is readable

[fatnslow]

Wtf, way to leave out ANY tangible info about $$$ needed to buy, level of expertise to run along with cash flow required to stay home for just one month.

[old goat]

Maybe because Powdr won't give the group the time of day, let alone the financials.

[TBS]

What a puff piece.
Powdr isn’t going to show the financials and operating records to folks that can’t show the financial backing to complete a deal.
Which is why the local group hasn’t seen the Data Room.
And why I say their chance of completing a deal is slightly higher than zero

[Skistack]

Vail investor calls for heads to roll, dismantling of "Evil Empire".

Skimming through their 88 page presentation (linked in article), they cover many of the problems we've discussed now and in the past.

http://https://www.theinertia.com/mo...p-dismantling/

[Skistack]

Overall, to most diehard skiers, to locals that choose to work for low pay in the name of skiing their whole life, to those that love this sport more than almost anything
else…Vail is seen as the Evil Empire. That view point is reinforced by numerous meme accounts, bumper stickers and internet threads. That view point is often even
more reinforced when it’s a two hour drive to go a couple miles to have to pay for parking and wait in line more than ski. That view point is reinforced by marketing efforts
that don’t build ski culture, ski content and ski history but is entirely centered around a ski pass and a price next to it.

[TBS]

@skistack - the link to the investor report above is broken

[Skistack]

Thanks TBS, let's try again.

https://www.theinertia.com/mountain/...p-dismantling/

[supermodel159]

Maybe off topic, but I'm headed to Park City this weekend. Any info on current conditions? Mostly concerned if I should bring my rock board or not...

[old goat]

The ski resorts are not to blame for the traffic, parking woes, and long lift lines. Skiers are. Yeah, I get it, the majors sell "cheap passes" so roughly the same number of people ski many more times per season. Isn't that a good thing--that people can afford to ski more often. A lot of us would like passes to be priced so that we can just afford them but people with less money or less passion for the sport don't. But what if they raise pass prices too much and YOU get priced out. Is so-called ski culture (telemarking in knickers on wooden skis with one long pole?) only for the rich? Is passion for the sport measured by how much you are willing to spend. If you want to complain about how long the lines are, go ahead and take a picture and post it, but make sure you're in the picture too.

[TBS]

Thanks @skistack
I don’t have much issue with anything in that 88 pg presentation.
The big question - is the author a big enough player in MTN stock to get anybody’s attention? Especially when you are calling for wholesale changes in the BoD. I can’t find how much MTN they own (definitely less than 1%).

Regardless, I just hope Vail is not the buyer of Mt Brokenchair.

[buttahflake]

This is a very good take on the situation

https://www.powder7.com/ski-blog/req...or-a-ski-town/

[Peruvian]

This is a very good take on the situation

https://www.powder7.com/ski-blog/req...or-a-ski-town/

Late Apex was founded last year and bought into Vail at that time but within a few month wrote a letter explaining all
the ills of the corporation over the prior 5 years? I’m on their side that Vail corporate sucks, but the optics are pretty bad for Late Apex on this one.

[Meadow Skipper]

^ That was well-written, introspective, informed, and thorough, but I have to say it didn’t introduce a lot of new info. All that is pretty well-known and acknowledged by the people who have lived in or interacted closely with mountain community members (or former ones). What’s missing in that article, and all the similar ones, is an effective, comprehensive solution that will change the direction mountain towns and skiing are headed in.

I’m feeling pretty pessimistic today I guess. I think we’re fuct.

[schindlerpiste]

<p>
I not that pessimistic. Someone will think of something to reduce costs to the general public. I love the idea of BCC and LCC state parks. However, I don&#39;t know how that would work with the existing homes on private land. Also, there are a lot of multi-billionaires out there who must love skiing and the skiing culture, who can start a foundation to buy and run a resort as a non-profit. PC would be perfect for that. I wish that I was rich!</p>

[Core Shot]

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This is a very good take on the situation https://www.powder7.com/ski-blog/req...or-a-ski-town/

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[TBS]

Bump for Keystone patroller agreement
Vail Resorts gives union Keystone ski patrollers a new contract that delivers up to $8 hourly wage increase

The 81-member Keystone Ski Patrol Union on Saturday voted to approve an employment contract that delivered a pay increase of more than $8 an hour for veteran patrollers and $2 an hour for newer hires.

The first contract for the ski patrol union that formed in the spring of 2024 also provides additional pay for patrollers with emergency medical, nursing and paramedic certifications. Patrollers with fluency in other languages also get extra pay as do patrollers who are certified sawyers and chairlift evacuators.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/02/24/v...trol-contract/