Is the US going to Annex Canada? by force? or just destroy the Canadian Econ for fun

[Trackhead]

Lee, true. Agreed. Yet you made a bed with the devil.

Canada hardly walks on water in terms of treaty violations. Nor does the U.S. we both have a bad habit of violating them against First Nations people as Canada has done, and the U.S. Citations are hardly necessary.

[bennymac]

In one example you’re blaming the abuser and in the other you’re blaming the victim for being abused.

[Trackhead]

Since we’re on topic of shirking international agreements let’s circle back to NATO funding and look at Canada.

“A document that’s cancellable in six months notice”…said Mulroney in 1988. You’ve had since then to create protection from a document that was hardly intended to be permanent.

Sometimes history is worth considering. You voted for it. You get to deal with it. The same holds true for us.

[LeeLau]

Since we’re on topic of shirking international agreements let’s circle back to NATO funding and look at Canada.

“A document that’s cancellable in six months notice”…said Mulroney in 1988. You’ve had since then to create protection from a document that was hardly intended to be permanent.

Sometimes history is worth considering. You voted for it. You get to deal with it. The same holds true for us.

Sigh

I was going to ignore the whataboutism but since you insist.

The 2% of GDP funding target was a NATO agreement policy goal.

In international law, a treaty has a certain meaning. A policy goal isn't considered a constituent part of the binding portion of a treaty. Think of it as an ancillary soft commitment.

Since WW2 until recent times, there has been three countries who have signed treaties then breached them. One is North Korea, another is the Soviet Union, and the other is the People's Republic of China.

Source J Klabbbers " International Law"

The US makes four.

[Trackhead]

Either way. Your politicians warned about this and predicted it quite accurately 36 years ago.

It’s almost surreal.

And to reiterate, I’m not happy about Trump. I’m not happy about Canadas plight. I wish your country and citizens the best.

[Trackhead]

https://youtu.be/h-tn_Hn4tZ0?si=GWoRf4eZKPpkd5y-

90 seconds of crystal ball, it’s seriously impressive.

[XXX-er]

The whole 51state thing and calling the PM govenor was childish and stupid but thats trump so there isnt gona be a 51st state and the USA isnt going to take over greenland but I havent heard anything about Panama ?







I think America is becoming persona non grata, Carney who will probably be the next PM is a world playa and so Canada will find other countries to trade with

[LeeLau]

Either way. Your politicians warned about this and predicted it quite accurately 36 years ago.

It’s almost surreal.

And to reiterate, I’m not happy about Trump. I’m not happy about Canadas plight. I wish your country and citizens the best.

It's all good THead. We're having a conversation and that's good. I'm still a little in awe and a bit sad that the US has burnt decades of goodwill and trust so quickly and so irrevocably.

I'd say that free trade and tying economies together was so logical and beneficial that there was no way we (the world collectively I mean) would devolve to full blown economic war. But here we are.

[beaterdit]

Wife and I were planning a camping trip to Vancouver Island in May but we're probably bailing. This shit sucks. Fuck Dumb Donald and his gang of mental midgets.

Why would you cancel your Canada trip? Canada is not barring travel and Canadians are nice and understand that many of us are just as upset about this as them. MAGAs should absolutely stay the fuck home and hang their head in shame but thats not you.


I *think* the worst of this will blow over. I hope it does. Trump is a huge pussy when it comes down to it. Hes likely to capitulate in the end at the slightest mock deference after a little impudent bluster.

[garyfromterrace]

yeahman, keep coming. Like beater said, you're not a trumper come spend your money. Showed a couple from VT around Shames the other day, they were very cool.

[Trackhead]

LeeLau-Xxx

Agree with both of your posts. Like Yeahman, from a selfish perspective it sucks because it makes travel to Canada embarrassing. From a global perspective it’s even more so. On a bigger scale, we might see Trumps actions as a sentinel event to the downfall of our own country. Time will tell.

Maybe all us Americanos will be flooding your borders soon, seeking asylum from our own insanity.

[yeahman]

Technological Capability: Despite not having nuclear weapons, Canada has the technical capability to develop them.

Time to do so IMO. You need a deterrent. I wonder if it's being discussed by the leaders.

[Cono Este]

I have a canadien passport, I keep in case of hijacking, or in case any future Chilean suga mama needs residency.

This thread does not speak for all canadiens. The scrappy old miners I ski with in fernie never said a good word about current Canadien govt. that is a huge industry, and I’m sure they all want change too

Canada in my world, are loyalists, still a crown colony in my view. Hate me, but you all know trump is full of shit based on that. The biggest mistake ever made, began in 2016, when the left made it personal. I read in here canadiens taking it all on all Americans, even your friends, when you could just wait it out and not take his bait.

That just tells me you’re letting your emotions get the best of you, and trump will keep winning.

Cozy up with China, your fucking the other half off Canada and yourselves more than you could ever understand and I’ll happily join the invasion to liberate it.

[frorider]

Bless your heart

[J. Barron DeJong]

In my Canada (that would be the real one), if King Charles tried to exert any actual control over Canada Canadians would tell him to get fucked.

[Cono Este]

It’s the common wealth, people are fucking nuts to give trumps bluster any credibility. Australia wants its subs, they know the threat. Canada, needs to get sober, tell trump to fuck off, and take a page from the Chinese, and wait it out before they commit hari Kari like the libs down here.

[LeeLau]

Cono. Approximately 10% of Canadians support the idea of being the 51st State and/or annexation. 90% want to remain independent.

Many are critical and despise the previous 10 year government for doing, among other things, doing an abysmal job of handling the economy. Based on the polls before Trudeau resigned I'd guess that was over 70% who did not support the Liberals and would have supported Conservatives, NDP, Greens or otherwise.

There's no poll on this but many in the business community now are of the view that the US and China are now of equal hold- your-nose from the view of being business partners. With a slight edge to China in that China makes longer term plans.

This is all to say that your Fernie miners are a vastly outnumbered minority. And that you are, understandably, very out of touch

[ex-powderbroker]

Come on Lee, your facts are irrelevant in the face of some people skiing at Whiteface and the fact that i’m writing this on an iphone i bought six years ago.

Also, did you ever notice how flat the earth looks peering out on the horizon? curious.

[XXX-er]

Lee I think that 9% of Canadians the 51st-ers are dissafected middle aged men on the prairies who probably thik Danielle Smith is Hot






In fact England didn't want to try run the world anymore cuz it was just too expensive in fact there is a whole list of former Commonwealth countries cono could on google if he was not so fucking stupid





Trudeau senior brought home the constitution in 1982 and wrote a whole book about it called " memoirs " so Canada IS a sovereign nation and you could even just google the whole constitution





so of course there is some commonwealth hangover in Canada a former commonwalth country can stay for 2 years and so in those 2 years they try and marry a Canadian a very popular thing with folks from AUZ





whereas in America as far as i can tell there is a fine tradition for brown people to go there to do farm labor, work in kitchnes, mow lawns, domestic help ?






but why wouldn't there be a slightly leftover commonwealth influence in a former commonwealth country and so really the only thing it costs Canada is the security bill when a royal visits which has to pale in comparison to the security bill for trump to go mara-lagoing EVERY weekend




So should/ would Canada want to be American when Americans tell us they don't like America ?

[Cono Este]

Lee

I have nothing but respect for you, but trump is getting the best of you. This 51 st state, Canada rhetoric is the biggest laugh he given me, if he were try to remove Canada from the common wealth, I’ll smuggle some guns to you and join the fight.

[J. Barron DeJong]

A Trump senior advisor says Trump is serious about Canada becoming the 51st state. Trump is putting real tariffs on Canada. Of course Canada needs to take it seriously!

[toast2266]

All discussions about the practical realities of 51st statedom aside, is there any coherent argument for why it would be beneficial for either country? I'm just a random idiot on the internet, but it kinda seems like it'd be bad for everyone.

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[buttahflake]

Derr

[ticketchecker]

The only theory I’ve seen that holds even twenty ml of water is this. That is Drump would want Canada and Greenland in the name of national security in preparation for a post NATO world where it either ceases to exist or does so without the US as a member. We are living in the cross section where the darkest times meets the dumbest times.


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[ötzi]

After just watching the Univeriry of Calgary, errr Denver, beat BC in NCAA hockey I kinda wish some of those Canadans would have patriotocally gone home before the game.