Is the US going to Annex Canada? by force? or just destroy the Canadian Econ for fun

[CarlMega]

"I mean, yeah. Of course they mentioned the possibility of assisted suicide to a guy with a degenerative brain disorder. Given that it's legal, why wouldn't they?"

Literally the best time to review your future health options is while you are lucid enough to fully comprehend. That's the time to consider your estate, living will, treatment options and matters of hospice.

[BCMtnHound]

Over 45000 recipients of the MAID program since 2016. A handful of examples suggesting needs for further training of individuals involved in the protocol. I am well acquainted with the medical community in this area. I am thus far very happy with where we have come with this program. I remain unconvinced that your argument of perverse incentives is a significant risk to MAID, or the individuals it serves, in my country.

[DougW]

Re MAID, the whole thing about the mental illness being included was brought about by a court case that it was unconstitutional for them not to be included. It was restricted before to exclude but I thing some euros included. So the gov't had to include. Of course it was contentious.
" Medical assistance in dying (MAID) for those with a mental illness as the sole underlying condition – known as MAID MI-SUMC – is not currently available under the law in Canada. On February 29, 2024, Bill C-62 received Royal Assent, delaying MAID MD-SUMC until March 17, 2027. Dying With Dignity Canada (DWDC) has joined forces with Paliare Roland, Claire Elyse Brosseau, and John Scully in a court challenge to secure equality for those whose sole underlying condition is a mental illness in Canada’s assisted dying legislation. A claim was filed on August 19, 2024. Court challenges can be lengthy, and updates will be provided as they become available"

There has been opposition to MAID from the start from bible right to life types so some of the stuff out there is probably questionable on this issue.

[MultiVerse]

The Netherlands is the closest comparison. Netherlands instituted a safeguard where the patient must be the one to broach the subject of euthanasia. The patient's request for euthanasia has to be voluntary as well as persist over time and the request cannot be granted when influence by others, psychological illness or drugs

[DougW]

Seems like Trump wants to build Keystone XL. Which makes no sense as why would anyone build a pipeline that could be subject to tariffs . Really to fill a new pipeline there would have to be more oil sands production and I don't think that is going to happen. Canadians want pipelines to the coast so we don't have to sell to US ( not everybody but alot)

[LeeLau]

Seems like Trump wants to build Keystone XL. Which makes no sense as why would anyone build a pipeline that could be subject to tariffs . Really to fill a new pipeline there would have to be more oil sands production and I don't think that is going to happen. Canadians want pipelines to the coast so we don't have to sell to US ( not everybody but alot)

Energy East would be good.

Twinning ie doubling capacity of the Trans Mountain would also be good.

A C-suite Suncor person once told me that the entire industry is allergic to building refinieries in Canada so that may be out of the question. Something about the Capex and lean margins didn't justify cost.

I almost want the tariffs to go in place so we can just move on with life, adjust the economy (slowly) and concentrate on selective countervailing tariffs to inflict maximum pain.

Markets still don't seem to behave as if people believe the tariffs will actually be levied

[MultiVerse]

Over 45000 recipients of the MAID program since 2016. A handful of examples suggesting needs for further training of individuals involved in the protocol. I am well acquainted with the medical community in this area. I am thus far very happy with where we have come with this program. I remain unconvinced that your argument of perverse incentives is a significant risk to MAID, or the individuals it serves, in my country.

FWIW, a large majority of Canadians support MAID in the open-ended sense of using it as a last resort. That number is around 73-percent. However, only around 24-percent of Canadians support MAID when it's not ‘last resort’ situation, when other treatment options are available. Surveys also show most Canadians are unaware that those MAID cases they do not support are compatible with the MAID law

[BCMtnHound]

Umm, we just twinned the trans mtn (TMX). 200m from my house.
You mean to add a third, or maybe upgrade the original line?

The other plan on the table is a crude line to the north coast (Northern Gateway to Kitimat)

[ex-powderbroker]

Energy East would be good.

i don’t see it. it’s thousands of kilometers of pipes and would mean new refineries out east? i looked up the estimates and it seems like it would cost 30B for just the pipes on the low end? How will the oil be competitive at market after all of the expense is accounted for?

The new train project is a great use of money. We could really use some new ports on the east coast as the largest tankers are using Baltimore now. Let’s spend many on that. Or anything that makes the country more competitive and improves people’s lives.

But Energy East seems like throwing good money after bad.

[Flounder]

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Well we’ve found yet another topic that MV is an expert on. People are going to point out where he’s wrong and he’ll spend another [emoji638][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]] posts doubling and tripling down until we all submit to his knowledge.

[MultiVerse]

Flounder, a moronic jellyfish could make a better point

[LeeLau]

Umm, we just twinned the trans mtn (TMX). 200m from my house.
You mean to add a third, or maybe upgrade the original line?

The other plan on the table is a crude line to the north coast (Northern Gateway to Kitimat)

D'oh. I did mean a third line to TMX. A crude line to get dilbit via Northern Gateway as an alternative would be good but that's long - term. And would need tons of FM buyin

[DougW]

Energy East won't be new refineries out east , it would be supplying eastern refineries with AB oil though would have to add heavy oil capacity to at least some of them. Whatever is not used would be exported via Saint John . Irving Oil refinery in Saint John is the largest refinery in Canada ( little know fact) and has always been primarily been an export refinery.

[DougW]

Energy East - uses a lot of old gas pipeline pipe from AB to Ont. the new pipe is que to NB.

[ex-powderbroker]

yeah. and just for the pipes they were saying 15.7b in 2017 (some reports list that in usd!). how is this project going to give a return to taxpayers?

unlike, say, a functional port for large cargo or the high speed rail that will connect 60% of the population.

there’s a reason this thing got killed.

source:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ions-1.3369504


there has to be some other things to do with that money and the govt shouldn’t resist spending - but it should look for good returns.

if you price in the pipe with the oil how can this oil sands product be competitive? if the math works please show me.

[bennymac]

Not true. Whereas your posts always involve personal attacks, and never address the actual issue. I would self-examine your response here for wagon-circling. Not every discussion has to take on a political component. If I were simply trolling or repeating headlines then I wouldn't have written a carefully sourced response

My post had zero personal attacks and addressed the issue directly. And then you followed it up by calling another mag a moron LOL ok.

Well done - no one needed these posts to know how you operate here but it’s convenient for my original post to get supported so quickly like that.

And I guess on reflection I needed this reminder to not try engaging you in any sort of honest discussion - carry on being our resident subject matter expert in Canadian health care. Tell us about their death panels and all the organ harvesting! I read it on Fox and on Twitter so you know it’s true.

[subtle plague]

I like to order a fresh Canadian liver please. Preferably from an outdoor enthusiast and whole foods health afficionado.

"I'll eat it with green beans and q chianti"

[skiballs]

The potential deal between the US and Ukraine is not going to be good for the Canadian aluminum market. Currently Canada supplies 70% of US aluminum.
Ukraine has the potential to supply 100% of of the US market.


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[BCMtnHound]

I like to order a fresh Canadian liver please. Preferably from an outdoor enthusiast and whole foods health afficionado.

"I'll eat it with green beans and q chianti"

You’ve seen our alcohol stats right? Although the younger generations are trending healthier in the traditional sins sense.

And liver is best with slowly caramelized onions and barley booze. Kidneys are the organs that go best with the beans and vino.

[BCMtnHound]

The potential deal between the US and Ukraine is not going to be good for the Canadian aluminum market. Currently Canada supplies 70% of US aluminum.
Ukraine has the potential to supply 100% of of the US market.


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Aluminum ore is worthless without nearby smelter with high electrical supply. Most power in Ukraine is nuclear, which is highly inflexible to changes in demand. Must be another Trump genius plan in the works. Good luck with that.

[skiballs]

They have plenty of coal and no EPA.


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[BCMtnHound]

And please elaborate on the timespan for this. Mines, power plants, and infrastructure that don’t currently exist. Less than 4yrs? Oh, right, you’re banking on no more elections either in the US or elsewhere, under continued threat of imperialist expansion from predatory nations. Great investment scheme there.

[skiballs]

Maybe 2yrs. Couple hundred billion and little or no environmental obstacles.



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[BCMtnHound]

24billion in CAN-US aluminum trade in 2024, and you want to invest hundreds of billions to avoid working with your closest and best trading partner.
Alrighty then.

[Trackhead]

In America we prefer to get our oil and aluminum from war torn countries on the other side of the flat earth from places with continued perpetual civil unrest, not Canada.