Is the US going to Annex Canada? by force? or just destroy the Canadian Econ for fun

[byates1]

At least I don't have to ask my wife how to change my bike chain

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I’m shocked that you’re married

[JimmyCarter]

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He’s not, he’s just a guy who lives in a van and gave up on the future a long time ago so he’s happy to see other people suffer.

[byates1]

I'm not. Benny tho struggles w basic bike upkeep and has to defer to his. He's too busy being a snobby wealthy elitist looking down on everyone.

[byates1]

I'm quite content having 4-7 different chicks I see sometimes. No need for a full time nag.

I haven't given up on anything. Good to see us taking a real look at 40T in debt. It's understandable anyone on the left is upset, you all got your ass handed to you.

[DougW]

New tariffs on everybody. 25% on steel and alum. Crazy town as last time US manufacturers could avoid the tariff by buying alternate countries. This way the US manufacturer pays the tariff. Just think the alum cans in your basement just got a lot more valuable.

The U.S. and Canadian aluminum industries are highly integrated, as each market is a major trading partner of the other
across the aluminum value chain. In 2021, more than 75% of Canadian production went to theUnited States, while roughly
half of U.S. downstream products were exported to Canada. U.S. primary aluminum smelters operated at 55% of the
industry’s rated production capacity in 2021, compared with 95% in Canada and 88% globally. Over half of global primary
aluminum smelting capacity is in China, which has become the world’s leading producer in most segments ofthe aluminum
value chain over the past two decades. "

So some room for US to increase capacity but will need the elec power that the tech bros are using.

[jono]

Rusal went under sanctions in '22 and US aluminum producers went an ordering spree. Dunno how much of that is still coming online, but '21 stats are old.

[bennymac]

At least I don't have to ask my wife how to change my bike chain

Sick burn bro

[LeeLau]

“Canada is not used to America being this weak and fragile”

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCanada/c..._crack_addict/

Wow. Stephen Marche. "The Next Civil War". Brutally fatalistic. Will give it a read. Thanks.

One excerpt talks about the American liberals as being complicit "American liberals in the major cities retain a kind of desperate faith in the country’s institutions that amounts nearly to delusion"

One wonders if that can be extended to Canada's small l liberals.

On another note friends in Blaine and Bellingham crossing the border say that Peace Arch and Truck Crossing were deserted and that it was easy driving both N and S. Also that there was almost no Canadian plates in local area malls and shops.

[DougW]

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this is from Alum Assoc brief to Trump , he didn&#39;t seem to listen Domestic aluminum manufacturers need strong trade remedies and enforcement to compete with government-subsidized production that is deliberately oversupplying the marketplace. China has supported its domestic aluminum industry with more than $60 billion in government subsidies in recent years, according to analysis by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). But trade enforcement must be targeted. Today, the U.S aluminum industry can only supply about one-third of the primary aluminum it needs to meet demand. That means we must rely on imports of primary aluminum from Canada and other market economies. It doesn&#39;t seem like the US has increased its primary capacity just its downstream processing like rolling capacity</p>
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Maintain: Reinforce the partnerships and supply chains the ensure America&rsquo;s aluminum manufacturing dominance, starting with vital partners like Canada. In his first term, President Trump successfully negotiated a Section 232 tariff exemption for Canada that currently provides ~2/3 of the primary aluminum used by U.S. manufacturers. Continue to monitor trade flow and harmonize tariff regimes in North America. Close loopholes that encourage imports of unfairly traded aluminum that disrupt the domestic market.&nbsp;</p>
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from&nbsp;https://www.aluminum.org/sites/default/files/2024-12/2025-Aluminum-Policy-Brief.pdf</p>
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[MagnificentUnicorn]

We’ve got a giant aluminum smelter here that’s been sitting idle for about ten years now and we’ve got the cheapest electricity in the country. I don’t get it

[m2711c]

your electricity won't ever be as cheap as hydro quebec. the electricity that the aluminum plant up the road in massena usta use is now being diverted to bitcoin production to underwhelming success... How Bitcoin mining devastated this New York townMIT Technology Reviewhttps://www.technologyreview.com › 2022/04/18 › bitco...

[BCMtnHound]

We’ve got a giant aluminum smelter here that’s been sitting idle for about ten years now and we’ve got the cheapest electricity in the country. I don’t get it

Alcan’s smelter in Kitimat has been idle for years too. Company has made more profit off of the electrical from the Kenney Dam for some time.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

So Hydro Quebec rates are lower than two to three cents a kWh?

[DougW]

per the Rio Tinto site the BC works is still in operation ?

Our BC Works operation, in Kitimat, British Columbia, comprises a newly modernised aluminium smelter and the Kemano Powerhouse, a hydropower facility supplied by the Nechako reservoir. From Canada’s west coast, we transport our products by ship and rail, primarily to customers in Japan, South Korea and the United States.

With a total contribution of over C$517.6 million to the British Columbia economy in 2023, we are one of the single largest contributors to the province’s manufacturing GDP.

[XXX-er]

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I think Rio Tinto makes more money selling power than making Aluminium, locally we are sometimes running on Kemano power and the cycles are a LITTLE different so your electric clock could be off but the real question, how is America gona make defense weapons to go meet people all over the world and kill them without&nbsp; Aluminium or steel ?</p>

[BCMtnHound]

Interesting. Looks like recent increases in production.
https://www.terracestandard.com/loca...pacity-6079979
While I was living in the Bulkley in the 2000’s, it was largely idled and making bank off of the reservoir energy.
Good to see it back contributing to local economy.

[XXX-er]

Yeah selling power to the imperialist yankee dogs was much easier than making Aluminium

my ski bud did kemano Aviy control , sez there was some pretty BIG snow

[XXX-er]

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SO I just heard a Trump news bite on the CBC, all he talked about is the 51st state thing, he didnt say anything about fentynal or fugees at the border but I&#39;m not suprised eh</p>
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I still can&#39;t find Red Dawn on the screen ?</p>

[bennymac]

That power plant is an incredible feat of engineering.

[XXX-er]

You sure couldn't get that whole project past permitting nowdays they fucked the Cheslatta people pretty good for some of them the water just came up and some of the FN didnt even know it was coming as I understand ?

[Toadman]

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So Hydro Quebec rates are lower than two to three cents a kWh?

You can buy a lot of Canadian pennies with a USD.</p>

[grinch]

Capt chaos doing his thing. Meanwhile the coup excelerates with Musks africana gestapo thugs blocking elected officials from govt buildings

https://bsky.app/profile/mmccubbing..../3lhqvgbiki22z

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[bennymac]

You sure couldn't get that whole project past permitting nowdays they fucked the Cheslatta people pretty good for some of them the water just came up and some of the FN didnt even know it was coming as I understand ?

[summit]

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This is a few years old and was funnier back then because it was a joke. Now it ironically funny because it&#39;s true.</p>