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    Virtual fencing system for Dog

    The Shirks didnt think we were ready for a new dog but shit happens when you have kids, and now Stormy Daniels is part of the family.

    We have 5 acres and he generally gallivants around the property and always comes home but I have to admit I don’t know where the hell he is all time.

    Neighbor came over today and told me that Stormy has been in his yard, spooking his horses, chasing his cat and eating his animals’ food. He has an insane prey instinct and if he sees a cat, recall is out the window.

    I’m looking for a virtual fence collar and trying to wade through options and wondering if anyone has recos.

    I need one that:

    - can accommodate the perimeter of 5 acres
    - actually has some sort of feedback to dissuade him from crossing fence (not just gps tracking)
    - burly since the guy is super active and I’m and out of water


    I’ll buy whatever makes sense for the above but damn the nice one’s are pricey. They also appear to need charging like every day? And then you need a monthly subscription for these things. These companies must be making a mint off of ill behaved dogs like Stormy D.

    What say yee?

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    Virtual fencing system for Dog

    We have 8 acres and an invisible fence. The cheap one you buy on Amazon (petsafe). That, some wire, and a weekend with a power trencher might save you a few thousand bucks a year. Note we didn’t enclose our entire yard…. We keep them out of the woods and away from our neighbors.

    Our dogs are old now, but they used to be young and we used to be on the water. The collars will stand up to that, just be prepared to replace them from time to time.

    Obligatory: training with the invisible fence is the most important part that too many people skip.

    The trick GPS ones DO look cool.
    focus.

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    good looking pooch.....fuck it let him harrass the dirty cats LOL

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    that’s how dogs get shot ‘round here…

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    Dogs can easily breech invisible fences. It merely takes desire. We have three dogs in my neighborhood who laugh at their invisible fences daily. Just so you know. We had huge fights with our neighbors when we brought home our Chessie three years ago. We wanted a cattle ranch=type fence , which is virtually invisible, but the neighbors said no, "get an invisible e-fence". We didn't want this. In our mind, our problem was not so much our 10 week old puppy escaping, but the other dogs coming over to visit and inpregnating her. Luckily the winter came, and we were very vigilant. The spring came. Our puppy grew to 50+lbs. We hired a trainer. She was placed on an "E-Collar Technologies" 855-326-5527 collar and we kept an eye on her when she was outside. I would recommend that you do the same. It will take about 4 months of keeping a keen eye and then less and less. Now, she has the roam of the neighborhood, and stays within 5 acres of our home which is our open space. Since that time, two of the HOA dickheads who refused us a cattle fence got lab puppies of their own and placed e-fences. Those dogs are in my yard on a daily basis, but Hazel continuously keeps them in line.
    This is the type fence I wanted, with a solid bottom 8".
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    Hazel with Sheldon...she loves to play like this with the neighbors dogs, too
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    Training is indeed key. My dogs respect the beep beep, even if there’s a bunny or a squirrel on the other side of it.

    Schindler’s cattle fence sure would fuck up the deer around here….
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    ^^^That was the HOA reasoning...Deer, coyote, and elk need free range of my property. SMH. Thence depicted happens to be across the street from my property, but not in my subdivision.
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    Ha. OP. Luckily we have a fenced yard. But I left the gate open the other day and my dog came back after a bush party, breathing harder than I've ever seen.
    She too has an insane pretty prey/guard drive. Squirrel, deer, coyote, bear.
    Merema/cattle dog mix. She looks exactly like yours from the side.
    I laughed when I saw your picture as it looks like mine just with different color. This is her after proudly chasing a bear out of our hunt camp when I had her off leash for two minutes. It was about to walk into our camp which we had a tag for black bear .

    I've got several friend that have the invisible fence. Training is key. It didn't keep others out as previously mentioned though.

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    Virtual fencing system for Dog

    We’ve had three aussies on an invisible fence over the last ten yrs
    We live right next to a trailhead and see people walking by all the time. Lots of barking or chasing along the property line if bikes go by, but no crossing.
    The fence has worked with each personality so much that we often don’t put their collars back on them coming back on property after a run.
    The training is essential. It’s part of the install if you invest in the branded product (Invisible Fence tm)

    Works in water too as long as depth is within setting range

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    We tried the Halo collar. What a complete piece of shit. None of the hardware worked like it was supposed to.

    I'd recommend a normal invisible fence or physical fence.

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    Virtual fencing system for Dog

    No trenching necessary for wire install
    You can drape the wire anywhere that is a surface. Cover it with leaves/mulch/kick dirt or leave it bare to the world
    You can pin it down with landscape staples if you don’t want it moving.
    Save the trenching for things like going under a driveway or precious hard scape (flagstone or something)
    We cut a groove in the blacktop at our driveway & pushed the wire into it and used a black sealant to cover it

    And you don’t have to run the wire the full property
    You can make islands of no-fly-zone if you want to get tricky

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    Trenching is only necessary if you don’t mow where the wire is and/or if you don’t mind tripping over it and finding where it broke and splicing and….

    Seriously, I think you’ll wanna run a trench. It’s a pretty easy job, even for a big yard, if you get a little power trencher. Just don’t fuck around with an edger.
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    Our groove cut was a remodel. The original install was under the driveway at the mouth to the road. The dogs would linger right there & bellow at everyone.

    We had good samaritans who would come to the door and say “your dog was about to run in the road”. Or, some walker who was new to the route would be too scared to pass in front of the property with the enthusiastic barking seemingly free-to-roam dogs.

    We’d explain that they are on an electric fence

    So we pulled that perimeter back 50’ up the driveway. And people can see that the dogs are limited far enough back to not seem like an imminent attack was coming…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    We have 8 acres and an invisible fence. The cheap one you buy on Amazon (petsafe). That, some wire, and a weekend with a power trencher might save you a few thousand bucks a year. Note we didn’t enclose our entire yard…. We keep them out of the woods and away from our neighbors.
    Same. Much smaller area to keep my dog contained in, but he is a really high instinct dog and one zap at 50% power had him staying away from the border. As long as the perimeter is visually marked for your dog, one or two zaps will almost certainly keep him where you want him. Power trench the perimeter, do some VERY basic wire hookups, plug the thing in and youre good to go... its a weekend project.

    FWIW, i try the shock functions on myself to figure out an appropriate setting and 80% buckled my knees. 50% was plenty for my 50lb mutt.

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    We use Tractive (GPS ONLY) on our remote property. We set no go zones and it notifies is on our phone immediately when our dog is in it when we have live tracking on. Very happy with the product.

    However there is no way to shock or whatever

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    We've had good luck with Invisible fence for 25 years or so, 20 of those on 10 acres in the woods. The dogs respect it. They do make extra-strength battery packs for a bigger shock, we needed one of those for a headstrong dog that had roamed free as a pup but she finally got with the program.

    On the other hand my neighbors back then had a dog who never got it, the only thing the fence did was keep the dog from coming home. They finally got rid of the invisible fence and went with a real fence, but that didn't keep the dog in either. Our dogs don't go near the fence, we don't even use the collars on them any more.

    You only need to bury it where it might get damaged lying on the ground, like cut by landscapers etc.. Attaching it to a fence is a good way to go too. The replacement batteries from Perimeter are much cheaper on Amazon than the brand-name batteries from IF.

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    Virtual fencing system for Dog

    I will add they’ve modified the system so animals aren’t punished for coming back in
    Meaning they don’t get trapped out

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    We use the halo collar for our Great Pyrenees. It has worked amazing for us! Go through the training process step by step.


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