2024 Snow Tires

[m2711c]

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[neufox47]

If anyone in the Tahoe area wants a pair of Nokian Hakkapelitta 8s on 16” Pilot wheels let me know. They have about half tread and have sat in my crawlspace (no light) for 2 winters now. $100.


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Still available for pickup in Auburn.

[Foggy_Goggles]

What are the most badass studded 3/4 ton redneck truck snow tires? 285 70 17s.

Plowing is getting worse, I got a job coming up that on a shitty privately maintained road, my current tires will go one more summer but not a winter.

So yeah, I want the best!

[k2skier112]

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Where'd you still get Hakka 9's!?

They fucking discontinued the studs, v10 now, in my old 225-65R16

[k2skier112]

What are the most badass studded 3/4 ton redneck truck snow tires? 285 70 17s.

Plowing is getting worse, I got a job coming up that on a shitty privately maintained road, my current tires will go one more summer but not a winter.

So yeah, I want the best!

https://na.nokiantyres.com/tires/by-...res/285-70-17/

[Foggy_Goggles]

Probably need E rated. I tow 6k+ trailers fairly frequently.

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[J. Barron DeJong]

Probably need E rated. I tow 6k+ trailers fairly frequently.

Sent from my Turbo 850 Flatbrimed Highhorse

The only studdable E rated tire I’m seeing in that size is this Cooper:

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ddable/p/88182

Don’t know anything about it.

[Innominatus]

What are the most badass studded 3/4 ton redneck truck snow tires? 285 70 17s.

Plowing is getting worse, I got a job coming up that on a shitty privately maintained road, my current tires will go one more summer but not a winter.

So yeah, I want the best!

Not that this is real data or anything (the plural of anecdote, etc) but several friends up in the high hills with steep, long, E facing gravel driveways report that they are running Toyo M55 w/ studs. One has an F250, the other, an F150, both drag trailers and/or stuck neighbors.

Available in 285/70-17, too:
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/toyo-tire-m-55

[Djongo Unchained]

^^^^^^

I was gonna ask what the road surfaces will be like, asphalt or dirt/gravel?

That toyo is pretty great on all but the slickest surfaces. I ran that tire for about 12 years with studs. It's a digger fosho. Just ok on smooth stopsign zones.

When plowing, you're bound to be digging in and throttling up. I'd say the heavily siped tires ain't gonna grab when you floor it.

[Foggy_Goggles]

A lot of dirt. Its cold here. December through March most of the roads are snowpacked. Optomized for all of it because it is TGR. The studded Cooper M&S are popular with the plow guys. For me its jobsite driveways, snowmobile and skiing trailhead and slicker than shit packed highways. I'll ask around next time I'm in Granby. Didn't know if there is any consensus.

[Harry]

The only studdable E rated tire I’m seeing in that size is this Cooper:

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ddable/p/88182

Don’t know anything about it.

Don’t know anything about them? Here is Post #18 in this thread. I’m running the E-rated Cooper Snow Claws in 285/70r17 and I’m happy with them. They are studable, but my state studs are illegal. See below:

I am a big believer in running dedicated winter tires on a separate set of rims. I crashed several years on a powder day up in Whitefish trying to run BFG KO2’s year round. Ever since I always run either Blizzaks or X-ice. This last winter with my new Bronco I tried to find Hakkapelita’s in my size, 285/70-17, and could find them studded, but not unstudded. Wisconsin does not allow studs and my local cops are assholes about enforcing it. I did find some Cooper Snow Claws in my size, E-rated though, more than I need but bought them anyway since I had a trip to Big Sky and Jackson planned.

I had never run Coopers before, and I admit I was a little hesitant. I shouldn’t have been concerned, these Cooper SNOW CLAWS are awesome. It looks like they took the tread pattern from their Discoverer A/T tire, made it out of softer rubber and put a bunch of sipes in them. So kind of a hybrid tire between an A/T tire and a true winter tire.

It’s only 3-4 hours between Big Sky and Jackson depending on weather, but I got pinned down in West Yellowstone by closed roads. Tires performed great. That storm moved on and I spent a week in Jackson skiing with Djongo. I left town on another powder day and when I got to Wilson Teton Pass was closed while they cleared avy debris. It opened and I went over Teton Pass, Targhee Pass, and Bozeman Pass in one day and dumping on each pass. These tires had great traction. I am impressed and would buy Cooper Snow Claws again.

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[m2711c]

Where'd you still get Hakka 9's!?

They fucking discontinued the studs, v10 now, in my old 225-65R16

geo trackers are considered light trucks due to fer some unknown reason, the same class as delivery vehicles... that means they get "professional grade" tread, which, for now, is called the Nokian Hakkapaliitta C4. remember, these guys never get rid of a specific tread pattern for good. they just move it on down to their Nordman or other type of line. Their commercial tread lines seem to continue production forever when they get a tread design that works.


https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-wint...kapeliitta-c4/




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[Foggy_Goggles]

Thanks Harry. That's a great endorsement. Looks like this is the renamed M&S.

[m2711c]

Don’t know anything about them? Here is Post #18 in this thread. I’m running the E-rated Cooper Snow Claws in 285/70r17 and I’m happy with them. They are studable, but my state studs are illegal. See below:

how do they deal with studded tires on out of state/jurisdiction type vehicles?

[Djongo Unchained]

The difference between that Cooper and the Toyo is kinda this.

The Toyo's more open blocky tread, with studs ideally, is gonna be better in deeper snow, dirtier/gravelly snow than the Cooper.

That Cooper's siping will give it a decided advantage on harder, smoother roads.

They're both deep snow specialists.

Studs prolly burn off quick on a plowtruck if doing a lotta mileage.

[Harry]

how do they deal with studded tires on out of state/jurisdiction type vehicles?

They write those guys tickets too. They are very strict about it. I’m talking city cops, I don’t think state patrol cares.

[XXX-er]

I always wondered if there was a tire with bigger tread that was better in deep snow than all the different Hak' s I been running for the last 25 yrs which have always been great on the highway .

The newest square studs are the best for retention , I didnt lose any studs in the 5 yrs I ran this last set on Tacoma, I am pretty sure they all came pre-studded from the factory at least in Canada eh

[riser4]

Whatever you buy, watch out for this asshole: https://www.wcax.com/2024/11/07/man-...ts-police-say/

[kootenayskier]

I need to replace the dedicated winter tires on my RAM 1500. I’m sure most options will be more than adequate for regular driving, but I haven’t been able to find any sensible guidance on what’s going to best handle steep, narrow forest service roads in 6” of fresh snow. Not that I’m dealing with such conditions more than a few times a year, but that’s when they really matter. I can get Bridgestone Blizzak DM V2 for a good deal, and they seem as good as any for this use case?

[anotherVTskibum]

I need to replace the dedicated winter tires on my RAM 1500. I’m sure most options will be more than adequate for regular driving, but I haven’t been able to find any sensible guidance on what’s going to best handle steep, narrow forest service roads in 6” of fresh snow. Not that I’m dealing with such conditions more than a few times a year, but that’s when they really matter. I can get Bridgestone Blizzak DM V2 for a good deal, and they seem as good as any for this use case?

I've been really happy with Nokian LT2 and LT3 tires in those type of conditions on my F-150. They have enough depth between tread blocks to work pretty well even in partially melted out forest roads with snow, ice and mud. I do run studs, which are helpful when there is ice lurking below the fresh snow.

I run LT tires rather than P-metric on the theory that they'll have stronger and thus damage resistant sidewalls, all else being equal, and one cut sidewall early on with the truck was enough for me.

[kootenayskier]

Appreciate the feedback guys. LT/121 rated tires seem well worth the upgrade, given I’ll be hauling a sled and seem to find myself in demanding situations on a semi regular basis. The Blizzak LTs are on sale at my local Can Tire until the end of day, so unless I find a better deal soon, I’m going to pull the trigger on them.

[gravitylover]

geo trackers are considered light trucks due to fer some unknown reason, the same class as delivery vehicles... that means they get "professional grade" tread, which, for now, is called the Nokian Hakkapaliitta C4. remember, these guys never get rid of a specific tread pattern for good. they just move it on down to their Nordman or other type of line. Their commercial tread lines seem to continue production forever when they get a tread design that works.


https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-wint...kapeliitta-c4/




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It was to avoid US safety and emissions regs. Light trucks met different certs, didn't need airbags until 1994 on driver's side and a few other things.

[LongShortLong]

Change in tire models vs. time. Newer tire models outperform older tire models. By 10% or so. This video tests summer tires. Presumably winter performance gains are similar. I'm surprised there's that much difference.

[From_the_NEK]

Just got a new set of 255/50R-20 Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 XL put on our Atlas today. So far they are WAY quieter than the 255/50 R20 Yokohama IceGuards they replaced. How they actually perform in snow/slush/ice remains to be seen.

[bourbonisgood]

Got the Allroad back from Discount Tire this evening. Loved the performance of the last set of Hakka R3, so went with the R5 this go around. Shockingly different look and feel to this tire. So much quieter than the R3, but also much less aggressive in appearance. I’ll be very curious to see how they perform in shitty winter driving conditions where the R3 really excelled