Which Pivots? Why no thread?

[FloridaSnow]

Actually, I can’t. And I’ve tried. Post a video of you torquing a boot (by hand) so that it releases purely vertically, and I’ll believe you.

I never said you could pop it out by hand. I said you can pop a boot out of a pivot 15/18 rear ward with torque. Which is a fact. Again reading comprehension is important.

[Upinsmoke]

I never said you could pop it out by hand. I said you can pop a boot out of a pivot 15/18 rear ward with torque. Which is a fact. Again reading comprehension is important.

Ah, to be wrong and an asshole. Florida snow…clearly has plenty of experience with pivots and snow

[FloridaSnow]

Ah, to be wrong and an asshole. Florida snow…clearly has plenty of experience with pivots and snow

ski them almost exclusively all in 15/18 flavor. So yes. Sorry you like your opinion more than facts stated From
the company themselves.

[Stuntmonkey]

STRONG OPINIONS from a bunch of wankers without testing hardware to prove their point.

[auvgeek]

I never said you could pop it out by hand. I said you can pop a boot out of a pivot 15/18 rear ward with torque. Which is a fact. Again reading comprehension is important.

You can pop out a boot by hand at the toe laterally at a low DIN. So what’s the DIN of the vertical toe release? Why isn’t it the same as the lateral toe release?

[dcpnz]

Floridasnow - You keep quoting the same thing to justify your “facts” but it does not say what you think it says.

And then have the gall to suggest to auvgeek that reading comprehension is important!!

Fark dude!!!

[FloridaSnow]

You can pop out a boot by hand at the toe laterally at a low DIN. So what’s the DIN of the vertical toe release? Why isn’t it the same as the lateral toe release?

A rear ward fall is going to put a far greater force on the toe allowing for a vertical release unlike your scientific (hand flex). Go ahead and use a release calibration tool with the bindings set to the lowest setting and see if you can get a vertical release (100%) will happen because that’s giving a far greater amount of torque than your hand in a boot. Which is what would happen when you actually crash with force and gravity especially in a rearward fall.

again show me where look has a disclaimer excluding the 15/18 from multi directional release including rearward falls. You can’t. Because it doesn’t exist.

[halliday]

STRONG OPINIONS from a bunch of wankers without testing hardware to prove their point.

^^^This

[FloridaSnow]

Floridasnow - You keep quoting the same thing to justify your “facts” but it does not say what you think it says.

And then have the gall to suggest to auvgeek that reading comprehension is important!!

Fark dude!!!

ok so what happens in a rearward fall specifically in the toe? Rearward falls are attributed to a vertical toe release. Which look specifically states “all toes protect against” just because you don’t like how it’s worded doesn’t change the facts of what they’re saying.

[FloridaSnow]

STRONG OPINIONS from a bunch of wankers without testing hardware to prove their point.

I know. It’s crazy. Look makes it clear how all of their toes perform. It’s not on me to prove them correct. By all means everyone giving their “opinion” on what they “think” look really meant should go ahead and prove look wrong.

go to a shop and film a release calibration using the correct tools. Have a rearward fall simulated torque wise and prove look wrong that it won’t release. LOOK says it’s will.

[FloridaSnow]

Ah, to be wrong and an asshole. Florida snow…clearly has plenty of experience with pivots and snow

ah, to be so hard headed you think you know better than the company itself.

[J. Barron DeJong]

I have no idea if they can actually release true vertical, but I did have the thought that maybe there was a translation issue in the marketing copy, but no:


Clearly states the same in French as English: all toes can release in backward or combined falls.

If they actually can’t, that’s some fucked up advertising.

[FloridaSnow]

I have no idea if they can actually release true vertical, but I did have the thought that maybe there was a translation issue in the marketing copy, but no:


Clearly states the same in French as English: all toes can release in backward or combined falls.

If they actually can’t, that’s some fucked up advertising.

i think that’s where a lot of this hang up always ends up coming from. Typically it’s always a 12/14 vs 15/18 vertical. The reality is they both release vertically. That’s an undeniable fact. Now how much is a completely different story. I have zero idea how much more of less angle each toe can achieve vertically and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the 12/14 and their other plastic toe can get more vertical angles than the 15/18, but to try and claim the 15/18 cannot release vertically is just factually wrong across the board.

if someone has some really great testing equipment and wants to test the degrees for each toe have at it. No one has proved look
wrong yet with evidence or else it would be plastered everywhere by now.

[Lord Thomas]

OK, now that this thread is thoroughly cunted up, let's move on to the standard inane discussion of the new vs. old colors, which forza was the best, etc...and how about the fact that there is going to be a 105 brake! A new brake width should be good for at least 2 pages. I'll start. I the 105 brake going to be available for the current heel or will it only be available on the new one due next season?

[J. Barron DeJong]

For accuracy sake: I said that the French description says all toes ‘release’ on backward falls, but that’s not quite right. It says the same as in English, that they ‘protect’ in all falls, including backwards and combined. But ‘protect’ has to mean they can release, right?

[J. Barron DeJong]

OK, now that this thread is thoroughly cunted up, let's move on to the standard inane discussion of the new vs. old colors, which forza was the best, etc...and how about the fact that there is going to be a 105 brake! A new brake width should be good for at least 2 pages. I'll start. I the 105 brake going to be available for the current heel or will it only be available on the new one due next season?

https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...boots-bindings

Edit: I read your question backwards. You want to know if the new brake will work on the old binding?

[FloridaSnow]

OK, now that this thread is thoroughly cunted up, let's move on to the standard inane discussion of the new vs. old colors, which forza was the best, etc...and how about the fact that there is going to be a 105 brake! A new brake width should be good for at least 2 pages. I'll start. I the 105 brake going to be available for the current heel or will it only be available on the new one due next season?

still love me some forza 2.0. Have a few pairs of that color way.

the 105 is for sure a nice option to have now. Now do I want to put a 105 or 115 on a 110

[J. Barron DeJong]

https://www.evo.com/discover/ski/gear-preview

[NW_SKIER]

You will definitely release all kinds of ways with the garbage plastic toe because that pile of dog shit flexs and spreads like your mom's vag. Metal for the win. I ski pivot because I want retention out of my bindings not release.


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Elegant prose. I couldn't put it any better. End thread

[Bandit Man]

Just for fun, isn’t the current P12/14 toe the evolution of the Geze toe and the P15/P18 the actual Look toe?

[FloridaSnow]

Just for fun, isn’t the current P12/14 toe the evolution of the Geze toe and the P15/P18 the actual Look toe?

Henrik also has a custom 16/17 custom plastic toe as well. Forgot which din was the high.

[BeHuWe]

I bet Florida snow skis in jeans and is actually Benny


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[phatty]

Forza 1.0 is still my favorite. Though I like all 3. Put Senders on my veneer BGs and my 18yo said it was his favorite. Looking forward to the new colors next year. They can join the 7 pair I have in my garage. [emoji1787]

[EWG]

So weird ... it's almost like this conversation has happened before...

[east or bust]

I mean, who has a long pipe or a 2x4 they can stick in their boot and wrench it to simulate a rearward fall. It’s insane we can’t get to the bottom of this debate, on TGR of all places.

Also, metal>


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