If you get along great with your Cochise 130, would the new ZGPT be likely to work as well?
If you get along great with your Cochise 130, would the new ZGPT be likely to work as well?
Island. I carpet tested the Cochise 130 and it felt like the new ZGTP
Tjaard. One of the reasons the ZGTP was popular was that it was relatively easy to punch, stretch or customize for different feet. The new rev is the same.
A few more days touring but this time with more flat walking on glaciers and that 5 deg more of ROM is there and noticeable for someone like me who uses long strides
Any idea if any shops will have early access to these? I would happily replace my aging yellow ZGPTs before volcano/spring/summer season.
I believe a couple people touched on it briefly, but I just wanted to double check if there's a pretty concrete consensus on the update to the instep height.
I have incredibly low volume feet, and as such enjoyed the low instep on the current ZGTP. But someone previously stated that the increase in instep height is not noticeable, and I believe another person stated that the increase is only by 1 mm.
I ask because I just stocked up on a 23/24 model, and will sell it if the new model fits pretty much the same in the instep.
I would gladly accept the improved ROM, slight weight decrease, and increased forward lean of this new model coming out.
the new new version - we will be seeing those soon at my shop
I picked up some of last season’s cheap a couple months ago
Last edited by ~mikey b; 09-02-2024 at 02:59 PM.
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
Just got my 2025 ZGTPs today. The fit feels very similar to the last edition. I have darn narrow feet, and would notice if they increased volume significantly. The only difference I notice is they are a bit easier to get on, a little lighter in hand, and definitely have improved forward motion. My old ones did have a forward endpoint that limited my ROM a small amount. The liner actually feels pretty good. Not sure I’ll dump my intuitions and zip fits, but I think they’d be decent for a stock liner.
I have to give Tecnica a huge shout out for always standing behind their products. I used my last pair for three seasons guiding and recreational skiing. They held up to tons of hard mileage in AK, the Tetons and other Rocky Mountain West, as well as a bunch of resort skiing. After all that the rivets were shot. When I couldn’t find anywhere that could fix them (the rest of the boots were fine), Tecnica promptly sent me a new pair.
These things aren’t cheap, but it’s good to know they will take care of you if something happens.
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I really wish they fixed the buckles so they weren't so damn fidgety and had a longer touring catch... Also I always thought the forward range of motion was fine and would have appreciated more rearward range of motion. That being said I will probably buy a pair of the new ones since mine are pretty much shot
I tried them on briefly, and noticed the increased range of motion forward, compared to what I remember from my old pair. It felt quite different. I suspect it’s partly the better ROM and partly the taller instep. On the old ones I think the lower clog would hit my ankle/instep, reducing forward range. It’s better with these.
Agreed. Reminiscent of the old days of Arc’teryx.
Re: buckles. I agree, still fiddly. But the return springs feel more substantial than the last ones. I have hope they won’t flop constantly going uphill.
I think they freaking nailed it with this one.
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I’m with you on these complaints. One solution is to just undo the ankle buckle (2nd down). It dramatically improves rear and forward ROM and reduces friction. I don’t notice the buckle being undone in any negative way if your boot cuff is low. Sure maybe scrambling I’d hook it on and pop it forward.
My last few long tours on these new ZGTPs involved glacier scootching. I did what goldenbc suggested and undid that referenced buckle completely which freed up ROM
we should be seeing the new ZeroG at The BackCountry this week
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
26.5 Scouts and Pros both came in right at 1300g with stock everything.
Fit with stock liner and footbed felt a little more relaxed over my instep but not a ton.
Pro definitely is stiff and way more harsh than the Scout. Went with the scout over the pro. A nice update from my first gen pro is the power straps are now attached with screw hardware rather than rivets..
For those who did a toe punch on the new model or the first gen, how many mm lenghtwise is it possible to get?
Depending on the binding you are using you can get a lot. If you are using tech binding only and don’t have to worry about a massive toe punch hitting the toe piece, you can definitely get 5mm. You can get the toe even with the end of the toe lug no problem.
Keep in mind, when you do a toe punch this big, you end up with a ledge on the underside of the toe punch. This is from the plastic gets thicker closer to the lug and it won’t stretch. This will often feel terrible. I recommended ramping the bootboard upwards (like a gas pedal), so your toe glides up and over this ledge.
What Golden said. And Jean yes. You asked about extra boot length and that's what I asked Tom
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